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Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Re: Re: MissingPluggableTextControllerandPluggableTextView

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Unfortunately, I can't add it to Universes Done -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Re: Re: MissingPluggableTextControllerandPluggableTextView

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I have created the http://www.squeaksource.com/shout/Shout.3.15-tween.71.mcz > package which no longer contains MVC stuff. Thank you very much > Unfortunately, I can't add it to Universes - the Universe editor tells me it > is owned by someone else :( It's probably me :-). > I agree with your suggestion of not supporting MVC in squeak-dev images > anymore. Cool -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectFinalizerTests understanding problems

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi Norbert Since there was nobody else replying on the Squeak-dev mailing list, what do we do? At least, my "fix" is not satisfying as it just works around the actual problem. But then I don't feel like diving into the finalization mechanism to fix it. I don't think its critical. I think we should just remove the test (like they did in 3.10). Cheers, Adrian On Jun 14, 2008, at 12:23 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 12:18 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> No idea :) >> >> may be ask in the squeak mailing-list? >> > You are right :) > > Norbert >> On Jun 14, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> Before I recognized that Adrian fixed the >>> >>> ObjectFinalizerTests>>testFinalizationOfEquals >>> >>> I gave it try myself. I came to the same conclusion as Adrian >>> how to fix. But now after knowing how it works I do not know >>> why the test succeeds :) >>> >>> The test uses >>> >>> 1 to: 5 do: [:n | o := Object new. bag add: n. o toFinalizeSend: >>> #remove: to: bag with: n]. >>> 1 to: 5 do: [:n | o := Object new. bag add: n. o toFinalizeSend: >>> #remove: to: bag with: n]. >>> >>> My problem is that toFinalizeSend:to:with adds an Objectfinalizer >>> to the finalizationRegistry of the instance. But >>> >>> Object>>finalizationRegistry >>> "Answer the finalization registry associated with the receiver." >>> ^WeakRegistry default >>> >>> returns a global object which is WeakKeyDictionary. And >>> >>> | d | >>> d := WeakKeyDictionary new. >>> d at: (1 asString copy) put: $a. >>> d at: (1 asString copy) put: $b. >>> d size >>> >>> prints 1. To me that would exchange every entry from the first >>> run by the second run (because the objects are equal). >>> >>> So I would assume that if there does not happen a run of the >>> garbagecollector between the two loops the objects of the first >>> loop should be still contained in the bag. But the test is named >>> finalizationOfEquals so I have to assume: self doesNotUnderstand >>> >>> Can someone explain it to me, please? >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 17, 2008

[Pharo-project] Re: Re: Re: MissingPluggableTextControllerandPluggableTextView

by Andrew Tween

I have created the http://www.squeaksource.com/shout/Shout.3.15-tween.71.mcz package which no longer contains MVC stuff. Unfortunately, I can't add it to Universes - the Universe editor tells me it is owned by someone else :( I agree with your suggestion of not supporting MVC in squeak-dev images anymore. "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:6ac749c10806170637t7343f960h7ccb2791b268bf3e@mail.gmail.com... On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> > wrote in message > news:6ac749c10806170613p3edfb55h3fddcaf61fca4f0c@mail.gmail.com... > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Tween > <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> I'll take a look and see if I can create a Pharo compatible Shout, > >> Do you think it can be possible to have Shout compatible with both >> Pharo and Squeak at the same time? Otherwise, we will have to maintain >> a separate universe which will complicate my work a lot. > > I plan to remove MVC from Shout. > And create a separate, optional, ShoutMVC package that can be loaded after > loading the main Shout package. This is the best solution I think. > Will you be able to load ShoutMVC into Squeak images, but not load it into > Pharo? It is possible yes but no straightforward. The simplest solution is not to support MVC anymore in squeak-dev images. What do you think? > If not, then I can create a .sar installer which checks for the existance > of > MVC before loading ShoutMVC It is the simplest solution for me, but not for you :-). Do you think ShoutMVC could be of interest to anyone? -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

[Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on latest version

by Damien Cassou

I've just published a new pharo-dev version on: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2. It is based on version 10041 which contains cleaning of MVC. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Reintegration of StringSocket

by Damien Cassou

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 9:25 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Ok but what is the solution right now to make universe work? > Damien may be you should include StringSocket into the Universe package. > Because it is strange to rely on nebraska. I've just published a new version of Universes which includes StringSocket and its super class ObjectSocket (renamed StringSocketStream and ObjectSocketStream). I have also replaced direct references to other Nebraska classes (CanvasEncoder and NebraskaDebuger) to: Smalltalk at: #NebraskaDebugger ifPresent: [:debug | debug ...]. It seems to me these classes were only used to log things. Do you agree Lex? -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Re: Missing PluggableTextControllerandPluggableTextView

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:6ac749c10806170613p3edfb55h3fddcaf61fca4f0c@mail.gmail.com... > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> I'll take a look and see if I can create a Pharo compatible Shout, > >> Do you think it can be possible to have Shout compatible with both >> Pharo and Squeak at the same time? Otherwise, we will have to maintain >> a separate universe which will complicate my work a lot. > > I plan to remove MVC from Shout. > And create a separate, optional, ShoutMVC package that can be loaded after > loading the main Shout package. This is the best solution I think. > Will you be able to load ShoutMVC into Squeak images, but not load it into > Pharo? It is possible yes but no straightforward. The simplest solution is not to support MVC anymore in squeak-dev images. What do you think? > If not, then I can create a .sar installer which checks for the existance of > MVC before loading ShoutMVC It is the simplest solution for me, but not for you :-). Do you think ShoutMVC could be of interest to anyone? -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

[Pharo-project] Re: Re: Missing PluggableTextControllerandPluggableTextView

by Andrew Tween

"Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:6ac749c10806170613p3edfb55h3fddcaf61fca4f0c@mail.gmail.com... On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I'll take a look and see if I can create a Pharo compatible Shout, >Do you think it can be possible to have Shout compatible with both >Pharo and Squeak at the same time? Otherwise, we will have to maintain >a separate universe which will complicate my work a lot. I plan to remove MVC from Shout. And create a separate, optional, ShoutMVC package that can be loaded after loading the main Shout package. Will you be able to load ShoutMVC into Squeak images, but not load it into Pharo? If not, then I can create a .sar installer which checks for the existance of MVC before loading ShoutMVC Andy -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Missing PluggableTextController andPluggableTextView

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I'll take a look and see if I can create a Pharo compatible Shout, Do you think it can be possible to have Shout compatible with both Pharo and Squeak at the same time? Otherwise, we will have to maintain a separate universe which will complicate my work a lot. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Missing PluggableTextController and PluggableTextView

by Alain Plantec

On Tuesday 17 June 2008 14:25:28 Damien Cassou wrote: > I've just update my image to 10041 and tried to generate a pharo-dev > from it. However, the process failed while trying to install Shout > because it depends on PluggableTextController and PluggableTextView > which are not in the image anymore. > Hi Damien, yes, I guess the problem concerns PluggableShoutView and PluggableShoutViewController. PluggableShoutViewController is the default mvc controller class for PluggableShoutView. (and PluggableShoutView is not referenced anywhere in pharo-dev). I've found another problem related to view instance variable + OB. I will report it tonight. cheers alain

June 17, 2008