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Re: [Pharo-project] MIMEdatabase fix?

by John M McIntosh

Ok, well it seems to me having KOM and pharo working is *very* important, actually I'm relying on that for a meeting I'm having on friday. Obviously I'll use a version of Pharo from last month... Going forward you can burn all those bridges, but I'm not sure people supporting that other non-pharo stuff would care. Could you have a shim layer that is loaded to respect KOM's expectations for behaviour? Well or otherwise built a completely new MIME system for Pharo and let KOM continue with the obsolete one? On 25-Feb-09, at 10:13 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: > Michael Rueger wrote: >> Lukas Renggli wrote: >>>> what seasiders think? >>>> I would be in favor to get a KOM pharo version >>> Having two incompatible versions of Kom makes distribution even more >>> painful as it is today. I would prefer to have compatible versions >>> if >>> this is possible. > > I will see that I can get Pharo, Kom and Squeak compatible enough for > now, no point in riding this out on principle. > > Nevertheless the issue still stands, that at some point we have to > make > that decision. > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo scripting -- reborn as "Coral"

by Keith Hodges

Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I spent some time yesterday together with Stef to take a closer look > at the Pharo scripting project. > > We have repackaged and renamed the project as "Coral". It is available > on SqueakSource at: > > http://www.squeaksource.com/Coral > > I really didnt understand what Coral Saphire was all about, in InstallerLauncher you could ask squeak to execute a script and output to stdout. When I looked at Saphir I could see all sorst of parsers etc. Whats it all for? Keith

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] MessageNotUnderstood: UndefinedObject>>includes:

by Hilaire Fernandes

2009/2/25 Matthew Fulmer <tapplek(a)gmail.com>: > Don't mess with morphic from threads other than the UI thread. > Don't add morphs. Don't run World doOneCycle. Ah, the black art of Morph... Thanks for the tip bellow, it helps a lot. > > The proper way to do this is to inject events into the UI > thread: > > WorldState addDeferedUIMessage: > [MyMorph new openInWorld] > > -- > Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] MIMEdatabase fix?

by Lukas Renggli

>> Having two incompatible versions of Kom makes distribution even more >> painful as it is today. I would prefer to have compatible versions if >> this is possible. > > As I said, we are at or at least close to the point where we have to > make the decision which version to support. If you want to have Pharo > stay compatible with Squeak, we can just as well abandon Pharo now. > It's as simple as that. I am not criticizing your effort to make Kom work on Pharo. I fully agree with you that Pharo should move forward and if necessary break backward compatibility. My question was only if this was the case with the changes on Kom. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] MIMEdatabase fix?

by Michael Rueger

Michael Rueger wrote: > Lukas Renggli wrote: >>> what seasiders think? >>> I would be in favor to get a KOM pharo version >> Having two incompatible versions of Kom makes distribution even more >> painful as it is today. I would prefer to have compatible versions if >> this is possible. I will see that I can get Pharo, Kom and Squeak compatible enough for now, no point in riding this out on principle. Nevertheless the issue still stands, that at some point we have to make that decision. Michael

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] MIMEdatabase fix?

by Michael Rueger

Lukas Renggli wrote: >> what seasiders think? >> I would be in favor to get a KOM pharo version > > Having two incompatible versions of Kom makes distribution even more > painful as it is today. I would prefer to have compatible versions if > this is possible. As I said, we are at or at least close to the point where we have to make the decision which version to support. If you want to have Pharo stay compatible with Squeak, we can just as well abandon Pharo now. It's as simple as that. Michael

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo scripting -- reborn as "Coral"

by John M McIntosh

On 25-Feb-09, at 4:55 AM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > This will load everything that is required and pop up a few Workspace > windows with further instructions. (You will need John McIntosh's > latest VM to get this to work -- all is described in the image.) Well I'm curious why won't older VM's work? -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] 10243: error related to OB in the transcript

by Alexandre Bergel

Thanks Alexandre On 25 Feb 2009, at 16:54, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:20 AM, David RÃ¶thlisberger > <squeak(a)webcitas.ch> wrote: >> Damien, do you know where this selectors get defined? Is there an >> external dependency >> in DynamicProtocols, do we need to load something else to get >> these methods? > > They are in the ClassSelectorsSet package on SqueakSource. I've just > integrated them inside OB-Enhancements. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] 10243: error related to OB in the transcript

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:20 AM, David RÃ¶thlisberger <squeak(a)webcitas.ch> wrote: > Damien, do you know where this selectors get defined? Is there an external dependency > Â in DynamicProtocols, do we need to load something else to get these methods? They are in the ClassSelectorsSet package on SqueakSource. I've just integrated them inside OB-Enhancements. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

Feb. 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Which Mondrian ?

by Alexandre Bergel

> I've loaded the mondrian form squeaksource and I'm trying it. I find > it quite different for the one used in OB. Yes, but very close to the VW version. We have a number of scripts and visualization made in VW that we would like to reuse. Moreover, in my opinion, the new version is simpler to use (and probably faster to render). The incantation to install the latest version of Mondrian in Pharo: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ScriptLoader new installer ss project: 'Mondrian'; install: 'MondrianLoader'. ScriptLoader perform: #loadMondrian -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > I'll continue to try it as I'm reading Micheal Master thesis. I'm > trying on a simple graph first with tasks and node, but also I'd like > a special kinf of shape. Alex, I didn't found the way to compose > shape. Is it possible already ? Yes, you can compose them using MOFormsBuilder. There are numerous example in MOReadme, MONewFormsBuilderTest, and MOFormsBuilderTest (but some of them go red). An example that you can run with: MOReadme new flagExample -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | builder view | builder := MOFormsBuilder new. "Assuming you want a grid made up of 3 columns and 2 rows" builder column; fill; column; fill; center; column; fill. builder row; fill; row; fill; row; fill; "For the German flag" row; center; "The EU text" row; pref. "For the French flag" "We draw a German flag" builder x: 1 y: 1 w: 3 add: (MORectangleShape new width: 30; height: 7; fillColor: Color black). builder x: 1 y: 2 w: 3 add: (MORectangleShape new width: 30; height: 7; fillColor: Color red). builder x: 1 y: 3 w: 3 add: (MORectangleShape new width: 30; height: 7; fillColor: Color yellow). builder x: 1 y: 4 w: 3 add: (MOLabelShape new text: [:aNumber |'EU ', aNumber printString]). "We draw a French flag" builder x: 1 y: 5 add: (MORectangleShape new width: 10; height: 20; fillColor: Color blue). builder x: 2 y: 5 add: (MORectangleShape new width: 10; height: 20; fillColor: Color white). builder x: 3 y: 5 add: (MORectangleShape new width: 10; height: 20; fillColor: Color red). view := MOViewRenderer new. view popupText: [:aNumber | 'my value is ', aNumber printString ]. view draggable. "Let's make nodes draggable, yeah!" view nodeShape: (builder shape). view nodes: (1 to: 27). view edges: (1 to: 27) from: #yourself to: [:each | each * each]. view layout: (MOCircleLayout new). view open -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > I also wonder if we could imagine a SVGRenderer to use in conjunction > with seaside :) ? What do you think ? Yeah, that would be nice! > ps: David, concerning the graph button bar in OB, I'll suggest showing > it only in the comment view. It depends... I seldom press the comment button, except if there is a comment in it, which is rare. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 25, 2009