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Re: [Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Sep 7, 2009, at 2:37 PM, nullPointer wrote: > > > >> What do you mean? >> That you use Announcements? > > I use #triggerEvent: mechanism, but hided. I dont know of > Announcements ; > what is the difference? with announcement you get an object around and not just a symbol. For the future use announcement since it is the new standard for notification in Smalltalk > > Basically the control when want launch a event (for example the > click) call > the message #raiseOnClick:args: > where the first parameter is the sender of event, and the second > parameter > is the click event.That is always works of that way in the widgets > events. > > Regards > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/CLFramework-UIBuilder-tp3594252p3597137.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 7, 2009

[Pharo-project] problem with running Pharo under Solaris 10 9/05

by ivaylo.ganchev＠univ-paris8.fr

Hello. I can't manage to run the virtual machine under solaris 10. I have permanently the following output: -bash: ./squeak: Invalid argument Here is the output when I try to run the image with the vm of squeak: iconv_open: Invalid argument This interpreter (vers. 6502) cannot read image file (vers. 1746468864). Press CR to quit... Could someone provide me with a solution or with instructions to compile a vm for Solaris 10? The makefile is somewhat obscure with plenty of includes at /home/bryce/squeak/exupery without knowing whatś in there. Help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Ivaylo

Sept. 7, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder

by nullPointer

>What do you mean? >That you use Announcements? I use #triggerEvent: mechanism, but hided. I dont know of Announcements ; what is the difference? Basically the control when want launch a event (for example the click) call the message #raiseOnClick:args: where the first parameter is the sender of event, and the second parameter is the click event.That is always works of that way in the widgets events. Regards -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/CLFramework-UIBuilder-tp3594252p3597137.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 7, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder

by Gary Chambers

Better off doing UITheme builder alert: 'a message' title: 'Alert!'. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Torsten Bergmann" <astares(a)gmx.de> To: <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 12:45 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder >i published the CLFramework package Nice! First bug report: In CLBuilderMainForm>>createNewView you send #alert:text:title: to the current UI theme but this message is not in the latest core image. Bye Torsten -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate fÃ¼r nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 7, 2009

[Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder

by Torsten Bergmann

>i published the CLFramework package Nice! First bug report: In CLBuilderMainForm>>createNewView you send #alert:text:title: to the current UI theme but this message is not in the latest core image. Bye Torsten -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate fÃ¼r nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02

Sept. 7, 2009

[Pharo-project] Updated the list of ok committers after ESUG signature

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi I updated the list and the svn repo with the list of ok committers. Thanks for your signature! Stef

Sept. 7, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> i published the CLFramework package > > http://www.squeaksource.com/CLFramework.html Excellent! > > Is totally alpha version, not valid for serious apps.The set of > widgets of > Polymoprh adapteds to designer is limited, and donÂ´t works with normal > mechanism as MorphicModel, else with events. What do you mean? That you use Announcements? > IÂ´m continue working in it, but I have arrived at crossroads, where > i think > is best create my own set of widgets, from zero, or perhaps be more > ambitious and try use 3d... i dont know; my knowledges is limited. Pay attention because we saw a lot of people doing the same. Designing a new set of widgets is a HUGE effort. For the use of 3d I do not see any point doing that. A valuable effort would be to check the polymorph widgets that are worth. - Remove broken or useless morphic widgets. - improve existing widgets - as an example alain plantec designed and implemented a new tree with much much better capabilities than the default one and we are waiting that he finishes to integrate into pharo - At esug alain show us a first attempt to use cairo to build a new "morphic" and there widgets will also be missing. I think that having a layout manager (copying may be the one of sophie) is more important than new widgets because how do the components move when you resize a window or the relative placement of widgets is also important. > I added new features; can be viewed here: > > Inlaying a view into another > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0dSuunKbEM > > Adding external files (images only) for use in UIBuilder > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXvwieFA_4k > > Building a context menu > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cilG97m4u2g > > > For probe the designer only type > > view := CLUIBuilderMainForm new show. > > in a workspace. > > > I want to be thankful to Jordi Delgado and Citilab for Smalltalk > initiative > and lessons, and future events ( ESUG 2010 :) ) > > > Regards > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/CLFramework-UIBuilder-tp3594252p3594252.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 7, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Impossible launc/use Lumiere

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

this looks cool! really getting widgest like the accordeon style in javaScript would be great. Stef On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:43 PM, nullPointer wrote: > > > Do you know WPF? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-T-yF3tXCc > > Oks, forget a moment that it is of Mocosoft :) > > I will like create something similar; nice 2d widgets and > possibility of > show, obviously, 3d > > I do not know even if to obtain it is possible, but i like will try :) > > > > Fernando olivero wrote: >> >> I apologize for not answering sooner, i was offline after returning >> from the ESUG. >> >> >> I'm fixing now problems related to Lumiere, mostly regarding the >> texture folder missing. >> >> >> Tomorrow i'l send an email to the list, officially presenting >> lumiere, a brief description, tutorials and the official homepage. >> >> >> But briefly, lumiere is a 3D renderer for producing 3D applications. >> with high level abstractions and using OpenGL as the base renderer, >> that uses the AlienOpenGL library wrapper. (we implemented using >> ALIEN >> FFI framework ). >> >> Since the Alien framework is working and tested under MAC for now, >> it >> only works there. But people are working for integrating into >> windows, and also alien can now be installed in Squeak ( using >> Installer, instead of Gofer and flair). >> >> >> The only thing needed for running Lumiere is to execute the following >> script, having the alien plugin ( IA32ABI.bundle ) under the plugins >> folder in the root directory. (i will that in the home page also) >> >> >> ScriptLoader loadLatestPackage: 'LumiereLoader' from: >> 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Lumiere' >> . >> LumiereLoader load. >> >> Saludos, >> Fernando >> >> pd: >> as Igor said , OpenGL wont give you widgets but it will allow you to >> build them using Lumiere or ALienOpenGL. Or use ALienFFI to build a >> wrapper for some external library that does that. >> >> pd2: I'm aslo interested in adding a complete set of widgets and >> text >> rendering capabilities using Lumiere, so we could discuss this >> further. >> >> >> >> Il giorno Sep 5, 2009, alle ore 10:50 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse ha >> scritto: >> >>> >>> On Sep 4, 2009, at 11:07 PM, nullPointer wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I try use Lumiere >>>> >>>> http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media/uploads/1/lumiereIWST-2.pdf >>>> >>>> for show a sample OpenGL window but donÂ´t works. I dont know what i >>>> doing >>>> bad.What is needed for use OpenGL in Pharo? >>>> >>>> Is a stupid idea use OpenGL under Pharo for create 2d UIs ? My >>>> idea >>>> is use >>>> Lumiere for build UIs embedded in a morphic window, but with OpenGL >>>> widgets, >>>> buttons, textboxes etc s is a possible idea? I could for example >>>> use >>>> OpenGL external widgets libs for use in Lumiere? Will be fantastic >>>> do a >>>> UIBuilder using that. If Lumiere dont works for that exists another >>>> lib o >>>> posibility? >>> >>> Do not bind the builder to opengl please. >>> Do an extension for that if you want. >>> Release your >>> code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-launc-use-Lumiere-tp3582501p3582501.html >>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-launc-use-Lumiere-tp3582501p3594335.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 7, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] question about Issue 207: ImageSegment discoverActiveClasses strange error

by sheridan＠sheridan-mahoney.com

On Sep 5, 2009, at 10:46 , St?phane Ducasse wrote: > On Sep 5, 2009, at 3:10 AM, sheridan(a)sheridan-mahoney.com wrote: [...] > >> I have found a report that seems quite interesting, and have done >> some digging into the issue described here: >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=207 >> ( ImageSegment discoverActiveClasses strange error ) >> and now I have a few questions I was hoping to get feedback on. > > > We would love to have a couple of tests for imagesegment!!!! > Adrian did you publish the ones you did? I committed my image segment tests to the inbox (Tests-AdrianLienhard. 19). There are some initial tests in ImageSegmentTest (one fails, which documents a problem of loading symbols). I also implemented support code that allows one to analyze a segment binary (i.e., to iterate over the instances in the segment without instantiating the objects). This should simplify writing more tests. Cheers, Adrian [...] ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ Great! Thanks! I'll start exploring adding more tests for this area. Sheridan

Sept. 7, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Impossible launc/use Lumiere

by nullPointer

Do you know WPF? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-T-yF3tXCc Oks, forget a moment that it is of Mocosoft :) I will like create something similar; nice 2d widgets and possibility of show, obviously, 3d I do not know even if to obtain it is possible, but i like will try :) Fernando olivero wrote: > > I apologize for not answering sooner, i was offline after returning > from the ESUG. > > > I'm fixing now problems related to Lumiere, mostly regarding the > texture folder missing. > > > Tomorrow i'l send an email to the list, officially presenting > lumiere, a brief description, tutorials and the official homepage. > > > But briefly, lumiere is a 3D renderer for producing 3D applications. > with high level abstractions and using OpenGL as the base renderer, > that uses the AlienOpenGL library wrapper. (we implemented using ALIEN > FFI framework ). > > Since the Alien framework is working and tested under MAC for now, it > only works there. But people are working for integrating into > windows, and also alien can now be installed in Squeak ( using > Installer, instead of Gofer and flair). > > > The only thing needed for running Lumiere is to execute the following > script, having the alien plugin ( IA32ABI.bundle ) under the plugins > folder in the root directory. (i will that in the home page also) > > > ScriptLoader loadLatestPackage: 'LumiereLoader' from: > 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Lumiere' > . > LumiereLoader load. > > Saludos, > Fernando > > pd: > as Igor said , OpenGL wont give you widgets but it will allow you to > build them using Lumiere or ALienOpenGL. Or use ALienFFI to build a > wrapper for some external library that does that. > > pd2: I'm aslo interested in adding a complete set of widgets and text > rendering capabilities using Lumiere, so we could discuss this further. > > > > Il giorno Sep 5, 2009, alle ore 10:50 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse ha scritto: > >> >> On Sep 4, 2009, at 11:07 PM, nullPointer wrote: >> >>> >>> I try use Lumiere >>> >>> http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media/uploads/1/lumiereIWST-2.pdf >>> >>> for show a sample OpenGL window but donÂ´t works. I dont know what i >>> doing >>> bad.What is needed for use OpenGL in Pharo? >>> >>> Is a stupid idea use OpenGL under Pharo for create 2d UIs ? My idea >>> is use >>> Lumiere for build UIs embedded in a morphic window, but with OpenGL >>> widgets, >>> buttons, textboxes etc s is a possible idea? I could for example >>> use >>> OpenGL external widgets libs for use in Lumiere? Will be fantastic >>> do a >>> UIBuilder using that. If Lumiere dont works for that exists another >>> lib o >>> posibility? >> >> Do not bind the builder to opengl please. >> Do an extension for that if you want. >> Release your code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >>> >>> Regards >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-launc-use-Lumiere-tp3582501p3582501.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-launc-use-Lumiere-tp3582501p3594335.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 6, 2009