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Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 1386 in pharo: moving methods from one category to another has trouble on the last item

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #1 on issue 1386 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: moving methods from one category to another has trouble on the last item http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1386 Seems to work on 1.2. Please check and add a new report if this is still a problem

March 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 1427 in pharo: relative FileUrl's don't work on OSX and Linux

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #3 on issue 1427 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: relative FileUrl's don't work on OSX and Linux http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1427 This was fixed some time ago.

March 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3247 breaks external packages

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 15, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Miguel CobÃ¡ wrote: > El mar, 15-03-2011 a las 09:07 +0100, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >> On Mar 15, 2011, at 5:58 AM, Miguel CobÃ¡ wrote: >> >>> I am trying to run Magma and uses TextConstants at: idiom. >>> >>> Before 3247 TextConstants was a Dictionary and the at: message works ok. >>> But now that it is a SharedPool there is no way to use the external code >>> without modify it before it works in Pharo 1.2. This change doesn't even >>> tries to present the same interface to acces the Text constants as >>> before. The TextConstants>>at: message in Pharo 1.2 is the Object>>at: >>> method that obviously doesn't work. >> >> How could we do that? >> If the system badly uses a global variable in all sort of different ways then >> there is no way that we can propose the same interface. >> > > Ok, I understand that, but also it was known that it would break code. > This is also understandable. and a price to pay to have this system > going forward. My point is the change was made, and no care for the > users was made in either: > > - stating somewhere (maybe the list, a wiki, a faq) the consequences of > this change and the advantages over the old code. We are trying but it can take a lot of time to explain all the cruft that we face. > - a way to migrate old code to the new code. > > This, at least for someone that has never used shared pools, isn't > obvious. The issue tracker says something about importing the shared > pool in the class using it so it can access its values. But there are > package extensions that add methods to other classes that use > TextConstants, how is one to work out this case, adding TextConstant > sharedpool to the class (array in the case of magma that is augmented by > a couple of methods that uses TextConstants) > >> Then TextConstants had different and bad use: >> - storing constants >> - storing volatile information about fonts and all sorts of registrations for fonts!!! in textConstants >> "oh yes this is the dictionary so lets us mess there" >> instead of using adequate classVariables in adequate classes (we should still clean this part). >> TextSharedInformation below is for the moment containing all the crap. >> > > I understand. > >>> What is the reason of this change? Why is better than the dictionary (I >>> suppose that reifying it is a reason)? >> >> >> because TextConstants was the **last** global pool and it was like a jellyfish. >> In fact when SharedPool were introduced by andreas (it was a good idea BTW) >> TextConstants was left because it was touching a lot of code. >> > > Exactly, and this change let a lot of code in the cold without warning > or a migration path. So far this is the only impact with the problem reported by doru for fonts. > Yes, I now, but this means that all the code using the at: message in > TextConstants is broken in the new Pharo1.2. I do not get the previous statements. All the system got recompiled and fixed. > Maybe this hasn't been > noted (at least for me it hasn't) because PharoCore 1.2 wasn't stable > but now that is stable people will try to load code that uses > TextConstants and if uses the at: message it won't work. > > Don't get me wrong. I am for the progress of Pharo and this change is in > that direction but it appears to me that was without notice this was not without notice. it was mentioned in the log (probably not a lot but it took us some times and a lot of try and error before making it public). > and without > a deprecation warning akin to the method deprecation. This was released > to the world without time for package to catch up and prepare either a > patch to the code or a PharoCompatibility package that copes with usage > of TextConstants. There are situation where we cannot simply deprecate code. > > >> >> Now I do not really understand why a database has to change that kind of text information. >> > > I don't know either because I'm not expert on magma but that is besides > the point. > > Now what I will do is to add (after consulting with Chris) a Pharo > specific package to magma, or if that isn't possible, an add-on in > PharoTaskForces that is loaded after magma packages and overwrites the > methods using TextConstants with the Pharo specific shared pool > implementation. This I suppose will dirty the Magma package and I don't > like it so much. > > So, dear Magma on Pharo users, the ConfigurationOfMagma isn't usable > yet. Please wait a couple of days more. :/ > > > Cheers > -- > Miguel CobÃ¡ > http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz > http://miguel.leugim.com.mx > > > >

March 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 1086 in pharo: Defect in focusing morphic region

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #1 on issue 1086 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: Defect in focusing morphic region http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1086 Please check in the latest 1.2 if this problem is there, I close this report for now.

March 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3247 breaks external packages

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 15, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Miguel CobÃ¡ wrote: > Thanks Henrik, it is working great. Magma tests are running right now. > > Now, what should we do. I have the changeset with this changes. Should I > open other ticket, referencing 3247, attach the CS so that is part of > PharoCore 1.2.1 or should we wait to see if someone else hits this > issue? open an issue and tage it for 1.2.1 and 1.3 We did not think that the solution was that easy else we would have done it. >>>>> >> How about: >> <category: 'backwards compatability' >> at: aSymbol >> ^self classPool at: aSymbol >> >> at: aSymbol put: aValue >> ^self >> deprecated: 'TextConstants is not a place to store your stuff' >> on: '15 March 2011' >> in: 'Pharo1.2' >> >> Cheers, >> Henry >> > > -- > Miguel CobÃ¡ > http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz > http://miguel.leugim.com.mx > > > >

March 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 753 in pharo: Error when connecting to a FTP repository with Monticello

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #3 on issue 753 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: Error when connecting to a FTP repository with Monticello http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=753 I could connect to ftp in 1.2

March 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3247 breaks external packages

by Miguel CobÃ¡

Thanks Henrik, it is working great. Magma tests are running right now. Now, what should we do. I have the changeset with this changes. Should I open other ticket, referencing 3247, attach the CS so that is part of PharoCore 1.2.1 or should we wait to see if someone else hits this issue? So, part of PharoCore 1.2.1 or part of ConfigurationOfMagma dependencies? I vote for part of 1.2.1, Stef, what do you think? Again, thanks Henrik, for the solution. Cheers El mar, 15-03-2011 a las 18:00 +0100, Henrik Sperre Johansen escribiÃ³: > On 15.03.2011 17:39, Miguel CobÃ¡ wrote: > > El mar, 15-03-2011 a las 09:07 +0100, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: > >> On Mar 15, 2011, at 5:58 AM, Miguel CobÃ¡ wrote: > >> > >>> I am trying to run Magma and uses TextConstants at: idiom. > >>> > >>> Before 3247 TextConstants was a Dictionary and the at: message works ok. > >>> But now that it is a SharedPool there is no way to use the external code > >>> without modify it before it works in Pharo 1.2. This change doesn't even > >>> tries to present the same interface to acces the Text constants as > >>> before. The TextConstants>>at: message in Pharo 1.2 is the Object>>at: > >>> method that obviously doesn't work. > >> How could we do that? > >> If the system badly uses a global variable in all sort of different ways then > >> there is no way that we can propose the same interface. > >> > > Ok, I understand that, but also it was known that it would break code. > > This is also understandable. and a price to pay to have this system > > going forward. My point is the change was made, and no care for the > > users was made in either: > > > > - stating somewhere (maybe the list, a wiki, a faq) the consequences of > > this change and the advantages over the old code. > > - a way to migrate old code to the new code. > > > > This, at least for someone that has never used shared pools, isn't > > obvious. The issue tracker says something about importing the shared > > pool in the class using it so it can access its values. But there are > > package extensions that add methods to other classes that use > > TextConstants, how is one to work out this case, adding TextConstant > > sharedpool to the class (array in the case of magma that is augmented by > > a couple of methods that uses TextConstants) > > > >> Then TextConstants had different and bad use: > >> - storing constants > >> - storing volatile information about fonts and all sorts of registrations for fonts!!! in textConstants > >> "oh yes this is the dictionary so lets us mess there" > >> instead of using adequate classVariables in adequate classes (we should still clean this part). > >> TextSharedInformation below is for the moment containing all the crap. > >> > > I understand. > > > >>> What is the reason of this change? Why is better than the dictionary (I > >>> suppose that reifying it is a reason)? > >> > >> because TextConstants was the **last** global pool and it was like a jellyfish. > >> In fact when SharedPool were introduced by andreas (it was a good idea BTW) > >> TextConstants was left because it was touching a lot of code. > >> > > Exactly, and this change let a lot of code in the cold without warning > > or a migration path. > > > >> If we want to be able to get a bootstrappable core (and eliot and us want that) > >> then we should clean the mess. > >> Yes all the sharedPool are subclasses of sharedPool except TextConstants.... imagine the code to manage > >> that. Is it a class, a traits, a global is it a dictionary of may be this is textConstants..... > >> > >>> What is the intended usage for code that uses TextConstants the > >>> dictionary access way? > >>> Specifically, code like this doesn't work anymore in Pharo1.2 > >>> > >>> self ~~ (TextConstants at: #DefaultTabsArray) > >>> and: [ self ~~ (TextConstants at: #DefaultMarginTabsArray) ] > >> > >> Using accessors to control access to defaultTabsArrat and DefaultMargin.... is the first steps. > >> Like that migration is easier. > > Yes, I now, but this means that all the code using the at: message in > > TextConstants is broken in the new Pharo1.2. Maybe this hasn't been > > noted (at least for me it hasn't) because PharoCore 1.2 wasn't stable > > but now that is stable people will try to load code that uses > > TextConstants and if uses the at: message it won't work. > > > > Don't get me wrong. I am for the progress of Pharo and this change is in > > that direction but it appears to me that was without notice and without > > a deprecation warning akin to the method deprecation. This was released > > to the world without time for package to catch up and prepare either a > > patch to the code or a PharoCompatibility package that copes with usage > > of TextConstants. > > > > > >> Now I do not really understand why a database has to change that kind of text information. > >> > > I don't know either because I'm not expert on magma but that is besides > > the point. > > > > Now what I will do is to add (after consulting with Chris) a Pharo > > specific package to magma, or if that isn't possible, an add-on in > > PharoTaskForces that is loaded after magma packages and overwrites the > > methods using TextConstants with the Pharo specific shared pool > > implementation. This I suppose will dirty the Magma package and I don't > > like it so much. > > > > So, dear Magma on Pharo users, the ConfigurationOfMagma isn't usable > > yet. Please wait a couple of days more. :/ > > > > > > Cheers > How about: > <category: 'backwards compatability' > at: aSymbol > ^self classPool at: aSymbol > > at: aSymbol put: aValue > ^self > deprecated: 'TextConstants is not a place to store your stuff' > on: '15 March 2011' > in: 'Pharo1.2' > > Cheers, > Henry > -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

March 15, 2011

[Pharo-project] [COTDC] 32 - MCScanner

by laurent laffont

Today: MCScanner Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment Rules: #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest Laurent

March 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 1939 in pharo: Window rotation issue

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #4 on issue 1939 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: Window rotation issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1939 I can not recreate that problem

March 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2693 in pharo: missing Smart quote on/off preferences?

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #3 on issue 2693 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: missing Smart quote on/off preferences? http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2693 There is a "Smart Characters" Setting in the current 1.2 Full (in OCompletion)

March 15, 2011