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[ Pharo 70 ] Build 51 PR 214 Matrix-Trivial-typo-fix

by Stephane Ducasse

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20326/Matrix-Trivial-typo-fix https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/214

Aug. 21, 2017

[ Pharo 70 ] Build 50 PR 215 Rubric-line-numbers-are-not-dark-theme-friendly

by Stephane Ducasse

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18172/Rubric-line-numbers-are-not-dark-th… https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/215

Aug. 21, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Latest Debian, Ubuntu and CentOS packages of the pharo-vm

by Norbert Hartl

For the .deb based distributions the adding of the repo is missing. This would be for Ubuntu 16.04 echo "deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/x… ./" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pharo.list Ubuntu 14.04 echo "deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/x… ./" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pharo.list Debian 8 Ubuntu 16.04 echo "deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/D… ./" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pharo.list As nobody noticed I'm not sure if this is really needed ;) Feedback is highly appreciated! Norbert > Am 18.08.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Holger Freyther <holger(a)freyther.de>: > > Hi, > > when running Pharo in production you might want to install the image and a VM from distribution packages. So far there were no current public packages and during the last months I have modernized the debian packaging and recently added CentOS rpm packaging as well. The process of generating new source packages is integrated into the pharo-vm travis-ci build as well. > > Every time that master of pharo-vm.git is updated a new source package will be uploaded to the Open(SUSE) Build Service and new packages will be built and are available in a "latest" package feed. The generated (and used) sourcecode is inside the source package and will be archived by the OBS platform (one can even nicely diff versions). The "stable" VM is not built from pharo-vm.git (yet?) so it doesn't show on OBS yet. > > Below are some semi-tested installation notes in case you want to try it out. The binary names are picked to allow to install the 32bit and 64bit VM in parallel. The names currently are: > > - pharo6-32 (32bit version) > - pharo6-64 (64bit version) > - pharo6-32-ui (32bit version with X11 dependencies) > - pharo6-64-ui (64bit version with X11 dependencies) > > > CentOS 6.8: > > # Add the repo > $ yum-config-manager --add-repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/C… > > # Install 32bit packages (with X11 dependency for *-ui or not) > > $ yum install pharo6-32-ui.i686 or pharo6-32.i386 > > # Install 64bit packages > > $ yum install pharo6-64-ui.x86_64 pharo6-64.x86_64 > > > > CentOS 7 (only 64bit): > > > $ yum-config-manager --add-repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/C… > $ yum install pharo6-64-ui.x86_64 pharo6-64.x86_64 > > > Debian 8: > > # Add signing key > $ wget -O - http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/D… | apt-key add - > > # Update and install > $ apt update > $ apt install pharo6-32-ui pharo6-64-ui (or pharo6-32 or pharo6-64) > > Ubuntu 14.04 LTS > > # Add signing key > $ wget -O - http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/x… | apt-key add - > > # Update and install > $ apt update > $ apt install pharo6-32-ui pharo6-64-ui > > Ubuntu 16.04 > > # Add signing key > $ wget -O - http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pharo:/latest/x… | apt-key add - > > # Update and install > $ apt update > $ apt install pharo6-32-ui pharo6-64-ui

Aug. 21, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] slow Pharo downloading and Travis

by Marcus Denker

> On 20 Aug 2017, at 19:09, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com <mailto:i.uhnak@gmail.com>> wrote: >> a) is there a known reason for this? >> No. I will start to check. >> b) is there a way to know what is the current latest image of particular Pharo without downloading it? > No, you would need to get a list of files and take the highest number. We should add a files with that info. > On 20 Aug 2017, at 21:06, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > > I was wondering thinking something similar - but should this be sitting behind something like cloudflare if it oss? Then it wouldn't really matter and would be very fast. > Cloudflare sadly does not cache any archives (.zip and things), at least in the free version. It is not very clear how it works in the payed plan. We used in the past https://www.cdn77.com <https://www.cdn77.com/> but performance was not much faster then Inria and the problem is that it needs some API call to tell the CDN when you upload anything new. Was a bit of a hassleâ¦ Marcus

Aug. 21, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lowering the pain of newbies

by Marcus Denker

> On 20 Aug 2017, at 23:48, Brad <bsselfridge(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I vote for setClassName: > setName: is better because this is what is there since many many yearsâ¦ and by just using it we must need to deprecate one method, not two. Marcus

Aug. 21, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Catalog statistics (Who know this projects?)

by H. Hirzel

Hello Esteban How did you produce the list below last year? I am interested for Pharo 6.0/6.1 to have a) a list of all projects in the catalog _with_ a description b) a list of all projects in the catalog _without_ a description Regards Hannes On 1/5/16, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Soâ¦ I took a couple of minutes to do a small list of project description > status: > > From a total of 379 projects currently in the catalog, just 115 have a > description and/or keywords associated. > Which means 264 are mysterious projects nobody can guess what are they > about. > > I was thinking most of this projects would be in Unsorted (or Pharo 3), but > I found that many are also on Pharo 5 and 4â¦. which is frankly unacceptable > :) > Even very important projects like Seaside or Garage and Glorp are not > documented. > > So, please peopleâ¦ take a look at your projects and PLEASE, provide a > description and proper keywordsâ¦ Nobody can guess what is Aconcagua (besides > a cool mountain in south america), or Telescope, etc., etc., etc. > > Here the list of non-documented projects: > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo50/main > --- > 'A4BP' > 'Aconcagua' > 'BootstrapMagritte' > 'Chalten' > 'CommandShell' > 'Cormas' > 'DependencyAnalyser' > 'FamixJS' > 'FontAwesome' > 'Garage' > 'GarageConnectionPool' > 'GarageGlorp' > 'Glorp' > 'Grease' > 'IniModules' > 'Kendrick' > 'Magritte3' > 'MagritteMagic' > 'MetaBoardBoard' > 'MyFirstWebApp' > 'NBOpenGL' > 'NeoJSON' > 'OSProcess' > 'PetitParser' > 'Phexample' > 'Pier3' > 'Pier3AddOns' > 'ProcessWrapper' > 'RewriteTool' > 'Seaside3' > 'SimplePersistence' > 'Ston' > 'Telescope' > 'Woden' > âXtreams' > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo40/main > --- > 'AconcaguaDeluxe' > 'AthensSVG' > 'Autotest' > 'CPanel' > 'CreativeCommonsLive' > 'DevFlow' > 'EventRecorder' > 'ExtendedNumberParser' > 'ExternalWebBrowser2' > 'FixedDecimal' > 'Ghost' > 'GraphViz' > 'Gravatar' > 'Hubcap' > 'Infinity' > 'Mandrill' > 'Mathex' > 'MemoryMonitor' > 'MinimalConnectors' > 'Mocketry' > 'MongoTalk' > 'NBSQLite3' > 'NumericalMethods' > 'ODBC' > 'OSOSX' > 'OSWindows' > 'PackageDependenciesAnalysis' > 'PharoLauncher' > 'PlagueDoctor' > 'Pomodoro' > 'RemoteAnnouncement' > 'SandstoneDb' > 'Scheduler' > 'ScriptManager' > 'Shapes' > 'SmallUML' > 'Spreadsheet' > 'Spy' > 'StateSpecs' > 'SuffixConditionals' > 'Teachable' > 'TestMock' > 'Trees' > 'Twilio' > 'Vidi' > 'VistaCursors' > 'Viva' > 'WiringPi' > 'WorkingSet' > 'XBase' > 'sQuick' > âsQuick_new' > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo30/main > --- > 'Actalk' > 'Arduino' > 'BabyMock2' > 'CTranslator' > 'DBPedia' > 'DigitalOcean' > 'Forum' > 'Fuel' > 'GTDebugger' > 'GTInspector' > 'GTInspectorCore' > 'GTPlayground' > 'GTPlaygroundCore' > 'GTSpotter' > 'GToolkit' > 'GlamourCore' > 'GlorpDBX' > 'GraphET' > 'InstanceEncoder' > 'Marina' > 'Mechanize' > 'Memcached' > 'Moose' > 'Pastell' > 'PharoOnlineHelp' > 'ProfStef' > 'PythonParser' > 'RFB' > 'Roassal3d' > 'SQLite3' > 'Smallapack' > 'SmalltalkHub' > 'Snapshotcello' > 'SortFunctions' > 'Spotlight' > 'Stamp' > 'Tide' > 'VersionBrowser' > âVersionner' > > http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository > --- > 'AXAnnouncements' > 'Adore' > 'Aida' > 'Ajp' > 'Algernon' > 'Alien' > 'Amers' > 'Announcements' > 'AutomaticMethodCategorizer' > 'BetaNineIPAddress' > 'CAnalyzer' > 'CairoGraphics' > 'CampSmalltalkLondon' > 'Cecinestpasunepomme' > 'CharacterMap' > 'Chronos' > 'CloudforkAWS' > 'Cog' > 'Connectors' > 'ContextS' > 'Control' > 'Country' > 'Countryside' > 'DBXBrowser' > 'DBXTools' > 'DependencyBrowser' > 'DependencyView' > 'EnhancedOmniBrowser' > 'ExternalIconFamily' > 'ExternalWebBrowser' > 'FileMan' > 'FileTree' > 'Filesystem' > 'GemTools' > 'Gitocello' > 'Glamour' > 'Gofer' > 'GoferProjectLoader' > 'GoogleAnalytics' > 'HPDF' > 'HealthReportProducer' > 'HelpSystem' > 'ICal' > 'InstancesBrowser' > 'JQueryWidgetBox' > 'JavaScriptAnalyzer' > 'Jejak' > 'Keymapping' > 'Kozen' > 'KyotoTycoonClient' > 'MaBase' > 'MaClientServer' > 'Magma' > 'Magmafy' > 'Magritte' > 'Magritte2' > 'Magritte3AddOns' > 'MagritteAddOns2' > 'Metacello' > 'MetacelloBrowser' > 'MetacelloPreview' > 'MockGemStone' > 'Mondrian' > 'Money' > 'MonticelloRedirect' > 'Murmansk' > 'Nagare' > 'NativeBoost' > 'Neo4reSt' > 'NewECompletion' > 'NewInspector' > 'NewOCompletion' > 'Nile' > 'NotificationsArea' > 'O2' > 'OCompletion' > 'OPAX' > 'ObjectMetaTools' > 'OmniBrowser' > 'OmniBrowserLukas' > 'Orca' > 'PagedReader' > 'Pharo' > 'PharoMorphicExtras' > 'PharoNonCore' > 'Phriak' > 'Pier' > 'Pier2' > 'PierAddOns' > 'PierAddOns2' > 'PostMark' > 'ProcessModel' > 'Quaternion' > 'REPL' > 'Raphael' > 'RatPack' > 'RefactoringBrowser' > 'RefactoringTools' > 'RoelTyper' > 'SIXX' > 'SPort2' > 'SandcastleThemes' > 'Scamper' > 'Scribo' > 'Seafox' > 'Seaside' > 'Seaside28' > 'Seaside28Examples' > 'Seaside30' > 'SeasideJSON' > 'SeasideRest' > 'SeasideTesting' > 'SharedWorkspace' > 'Shout' > 'SimpleApplescript' > 'SoapOpera' > 'SpellingServices' > 'SpyForO2' > 'Sqnappy' > 'SqueakCheck' > 'SqueakDBX' > 'SqueakFS' > 'SqueakSource' > 'StOMP' > 'Stripe' > 'SunnysidePlanning2' > 'SwaLint' > 'Swazoo2' > 'TODO' > 'TimerDaemon' > 'Tuio' > 'VMMaker' > 'Waterfall' > 'WebClient' > 'WebTester' > 'XMLRPC' > 'XMLSupport' > 'Zodiac' > > >

Aug. 21, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lowering the pain of newbies

by Brad

I vote for setClassName: Brad Selfridge > On Aug 20, 2017, at 5:30 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks for all the information. In Pharo 70 Object does not understand > name so it will already be a step in the right direction. > > I think that we should do two things. > - Address simply this problem for example using setName: or > setClassName: instead of name: > - start to prototype for a future a solution where the reflective > calls are clearly identified. > > Stef > >> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Luke Gorrie <luke(a)snabb.co> wrote: >> On 17 August 2017 at 21:52, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> We should not accept such kind of behavior. >>> name: should not change the name of the class. >> >> >> I had exactly such a problem a couple of weeks ago :). >> >> I write MyClass on: foo; name: x; yourself'but I forgot the ^ return in >> MyClass class>>on: and so called name: on the class instead of the instance. >> Hilarity ensued :). >> >> >

Aug. 20, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] slow Pharo downloading and Travis

by Tim Mackinnon

I was wondering thinking something similar - but should this be sitting behind something like cloudflare if it oss? Then it wouldn't really matter and would be very fast. Tim Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Aug 2017, at 19:09, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > over the past week+ downloading the latest Pharo 6 version has been extremely slow -- 5+ minutes to download the zip. > > a) is there a known reason for this? > > b) is there a way to know what is the current latest image of particular Pharo without downloading it? > > Could we include e.g. "latest.txt" file into http://files.pharo.org/image/60/ (and /70/ etc) that will include the latest image number? Because then we can cache on travis side which could significantly reduce the demands on pharo infrastructure. > > Peter

Aug. 20, 2017

[ Pharo 70 ] Build 49 PR 207 Replace-self-error-no-such-inst-var-by-a-first-class-error

by Stephane Ducasse

[ Pharo 70 ] Build 49 PR 207 Replace-self-error-no-such-inst-var-by-a-first-class-error https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20114/Replace-self-error-no-such-inst-var… https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/72

Aug. 20, 2017

slow Pharo downloading and Travis

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Hi, over the past week+ downloading the latest Pharo 6 version has been extremely slow -- 5+ minutes to download the zip. a) is there a known reason for this? b) is there a way to know what is the current latest image of particular Pharo without downloading it? Could we include e.g. "latest.txt" file into http://files.pharo.org/image/60/ (and /70/ etc) that will include the latest image number? Because then we can cache on travis side which could significantly reduce the demands on pharo infrastructure. Peter

Aug. 20, 2017