December 2016 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] inconsistent FileLocator behavior

by Denis Kudriashov

Hi 2016-12-14 10:13 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnak <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > is there a reason why FileLocator behaves like this? > > FileLocator home -> FileLocator({home}) > FileLocator D -> FileReference(D:\) > > Especially the first one (this also applies to #temp and others), > is there a benefit in returning FileLocator instead of the path? Because > now I always end up doing > FileLocator home asFileReference, which feels superfluous. > Why you need this conversion? They should be polymorphic. Idea that FileLocator gives you kind of virtual path which is independent of image location and could be resolved differently when you move your image. And message #D gives you concrete file reference because it is not virtual, it is concrete resolved path. There is also message #resolve to get actual file reference from locator.

Dec. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] inconsistent FileLocator behavior

by Nicolai Hess

2016-12-14 10:13 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnak <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > is there a reason why FileLocator behaves like this? > > FileLocator home -> FileLocator({home}) > FileLocator D -> FileReference(D:\) > > Especially the first one (this also applies to #temp and others), > is there a benefit in returning FileLocator instead of the path? Because > now I always end up doing > FileLocator home asFileReference, which feels superfluous. > In what situation do you need to call #asFileReference ? because I thought a FileLocator should behave like a FileReference (implementingthe same api). > > What is the use case that you don't want to resolve it yet? > > Thanks, > Peter > > >

Dec. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] inconsistent FileLocator behavior

by Nicolai Hess

2016-12-14 10:13 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnak <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > is there a reason why FileLocator behaves like this? > > FileLocator home -> FileLocator({home}) > FileLocator D -> FileReference(D:\) > > Especially the first one (this also applies to #temp and others), > is there a benefit in returning FileLocator instead of the path? Because > now I always end up doing > FileLocator home asFileReference, which feels superfluous. > > What is the use case that you don't want to resolve it yet? > > Thanks, > Peter > > > >From the FileLocator class comment: "I am a late-bound reference. "

Dec. 14, 2016

inconsistent FileLocator behavior

by Peter Uhnak

Hi, is there a reason why FileLocator behaves like this? FileLocator home -> FileLocator({home}) FileLocator D -> FileReference(D:\) Especially the first one (this also applies to #temp and others), is there a benefit in returning FileLocator instead of the path? Because now I always end up doing FileLocator home asFileReference, which feels superfluous. What is the use case that you don't want to resolve it yet? Thanks, Peter

Dec. 14, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Iceberg TechTalk recording

by Dimitris Chloupis

you can add an annotation for the first 10 minutes that links directly to the time the techtalk actually starts you can also link to the precise time like this https://youtu.be/AuZAFfWS34w?t=598 you can get this link by pushing the playback cursor to the time you want to link and then right click and choose Copy URL at current time On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:57 PM Nicolas Passerini <npasserini(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Maybe we could try to edit the video? Is it possible? > > 2016-12-13 21:20 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > Ah, but you need to skip until minute 10 :P > > Esteban > > > On 13 Dec 2016, at 21:19, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > for those who couldnât join us, this is the recording: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuZAFfWS34w > > > > I think it was a great talk :) > > > > cheers, > > Esteban > > >

Dec. 13, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Iceberg TechTalk recording

by Nicolas Passerini

Maybe we could try to edit the video? Is it possible? 2016-12-13 21:20 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > Ah, but you need to skip until minute 10 :P > > Esteban > > > On 13 Dec 2016, at 21:19, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > for those who couldnât join us, this is the recording: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuZAFfWS34w > > > > I think it was a great talk :) > > > > cheers, > > Esteban > >

Dec. 13, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Iceberg TechTalk recording

by Esteban Lorenzano

Ah, but you need to skip until minute 10 :P Esteban > On 13 Dec 2016, at 21:19, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > for those who couldnât join us, this is the recording: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuZAFfWS34w > > I think it was a great talk :) > > cheers, > Esteban

Dec. 13, 2016

The Iceberg TechTalk recording

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, for those who couldnât join us, this is the recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuZAFfWS34w I think it was a great talk :) cheers, Esteban

Dec. 13, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] REMINDER: TechTalk today, 16hs UTC. This are the links.

by Marcus Denker

Another solution is to go to the association website, the tech talk is there added as an event. The page has a nice "Add to my calendar" link... Here is the Event for the next tech talk: https://association.pharo.org/event-2405619 On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > ZTimestampFormat iso > timezone: (ZTimezone id: 'America/Santiago'); > format: (ZTimestamp fromString: '20161213T160000'). > > => '2016-12-13T13:00:00-03:00' > > ZTimestampFormat iso > timezone: (ZTimezone id: 'Europe/Brussels'); > format: (ZTimestamp fromString: '20161213T160000'). > > => '2016-12-13T17:00:00+01:00' > > ZTimezone timezoneIdentifiers. > > > On 13 Dec 2016, at 15:45, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20161213T1600 > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> > wrote: > >> > >> Small correction: 17:00 Europe time is 13:00 Santiago time. > >> > >> -- > >> Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I donât mean to be rude! > Please see http://emailcharter.org . > >> > >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > >> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - > University of Chile > >> > >>> On 13 Dec 2016, at 10:41, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Soâ¦ techtalk is today 16hs. That means: > >>> > >>> 17hs Europe > >>> 16hs UK (and no, this is not a political joke :P) > >>> 08hs San Francisco > >>> 13hs Buenos Aires > >>> 12hs Santiago (I think) > >>> > >>> â¦ and I donât know other timezones. > >>> > >>> The links we have for the meeting: > >>> > >>> youtube channel: > >>> http://www.youtube.com/user/nicopasserini/live > >>> > >>> discord: > >>> https://discord.gg/Sj2rhxn > >>> > >>> The idea is that we will try to give a live presentation and we can > use the discord channel to send questions that will be solved. > >>> This is a little bit less participative than the other talks, but it > was the only way we found to stream video that everybody can see (and that > it remain for the future generations ;) ). > >>> > >>> cheers, > >>> Esteban > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Serge Stinckwich > > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > > > > -- -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

Dec. 13, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] REMINDER: TechTalk today, 16hs UTC. This are the links.

by Esteban Lorenzano

ok, this is happening NOW. join us :) Esteban > On 13 Dec 2016, at 14:41, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Soâ¦ techtalk is today 16hs. That means: > > 17hs Europe > 16hs UK (and no, this is not a political joke :P) > 08hs San Francisco > 13hs Buenos Aires > 12hs Santiago (I think) > > â¦ and I donât know other timezones. > > The links we have for the meeting: > > youtube channel: > http://www.youtube.com/user/nicopasserini/live > > discord: > https://discord.gg/Sj2rhxn > > The idea is that we will try to give a live presentation and we can use the discord channel to send questions that will be solved. > This is a little bit less participative than the other talks, but it was the only way we found to stream video that everybody can see (and that it remain for the future generations ;) ). > > cheers, > Esteban

Dec. 13, 2016