January 2016 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Unable to read Utf8 ?

by Eliot Miranda

Hi Thierry, up until a few hours ago the latest VM sources were indeed broken by work I was doing on 64 bits. My sources are AFAIA now correct and I suppose you're waiting on Esteban doing a merge. But I'm responding since there seems to be a process error here. I need the freedom to break the VM, otherwise I can only extend it with difficulty. This assumes that there are currently servers that build and test the VM, and implies that we maintain the notion of the most recent good VM that has passed all the tests, and that this is the "latest" VM everyone is using. If there isn't this distinction then every time I extend the VM and make inevitable mistakes I affect users. That's clearly not sensible. _,,,^..^,,,_ (phone) > On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:21 AM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > has something changed in string handling? I'm unable to get the latest Pharo to read files containing utf8 data. > > I tracked it down to a primitive (at:put:) in WideString and to the latest vm for Pharo 5, so, maybe there is something wrong in the latest vm. > > Thierry >

Jan. 16, 2016

Unable to read Utf8 ?

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Guys, has something changed in string handling? I'm unable to get the latest Pharo to read files containing utf8 data. I tracked it down to a primitive (at:put:) in WideString and to the latest vm for Pharo 5, so, maybe there is something wrong in the latest vm. Thierry

Jan. 16, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Color yzw

by Marcus Denker

>> anyone an idea? >> > I'm trying to think. > Looks like it would be good to be able to make a distinction between symbols and selectors (selectors installed > in method dictionaries) > yes, this would improve code completion a bit, too, as there are more symbols than symbols that are actually names of methods. The data could be created per environment (Smalltalk globals) the first time and then cached till shutdown. (it would be an array of size 46451, pointing to existing symbols). The environment could cache sent selectors, tooâ¦ pablo did an experiment with that. Marcus

Jan. 16, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Contributing to Pharo

by David Allouche

> On 16 Jan 2016, at 02:42, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > So if occasionally if everything seems against you, after trying a > fresh Image as you already did, slide back to the last build that > worked for you (I don't think the issues you experience are Spur > related, but 50496 might be a good fallback as Pre-Spur and > Pre-GTDebugger). Then create a fresh Image from the latest build to > test your Slice and in that time maybe the other issues have gone. Ok. So my earlier question (in Slack, I think) about how "unstable" is unstable in Pharo is now answered. It's really unstable, not "Debian-like unstable". It would also be nice to add some public info about that. I'll create an issue. At the moment, I am stuck with GTDebugger, because it seems the old debugger does not have any keyboard shortcut form stepping through code. And that's something I would really really miss. So I'll suffer the pain of all the other glitches, and see how that goes.

Jan. 16, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Contributing to Pharo

by David Allouche

> On 16 Jan 2016, at 02:15, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:45 AM, David Allouche <david(a)allouche.net <mailto:david@allouche.net>> wrote: > it shows a bunch of packages I have not touched > it does not show the package that contains my fix (Spec-Tools) > > I am curious on item 2. Was this just because the dirty package was sorted to the top of the list (per Nicolai's snapshots)? I think that was indeed the source of confusion. But, really, this "list of dirty packages" should really only list dirty packages. What is the use case for selecting a non-dirty package? > I looked in the world menu, and I found this menu item called "Komitter". That sounded like a good candidate. > > I see how the term "Commit" is misleading here without context. Probably "Press the <Save> button to commit your slice to the inbox repository" would probably be better. Yes, that would help, too. > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?17398 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?17398> Cool!

Jan. 16, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Growl setting name

by Dimitris Chloupis

Personally I dont see the point of a rename, we got like 30% of people coming from macos that will be familiar with the name Growl, 0% that will be familiar with any other name. So you take a name that is very popular and change it to something none knows, how is that an improvement ? What notification morph, or notification popup even means ? Is it a window ? is it a right click menu popup ? Only the time having to port everything to the new name does not make it worth it. On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 10:12 AM stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > So if you want to change (and some tools should not hardcode access to > GrowlMorph) > a better name would be NotifierPopup > > Le 16/1/16 09:03, stepharo a Ã©crit : > > but notificationPopup is misleading because this is not a Notification > > (Exception). > > > > Stef > > > > Le 15/1/16 23:36, Ferlicot D. Cyril a Ã©crit : > >> Le 15/01/2016 22:51, Mariano Martinez Peck a Ã©crit : > >>> I clearly would use Notification as part of the name, and not Growl. > >>> NotificationPopup? > >>> > >> I love this one! > >> > >>> -- > >>> Mariano > >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >> > > > > > > > > >

Jan. 16, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] How do you normally merge Git branches with Metadata-less GitFileTree?

by Thierry Goubier

Le 16/01/2016 03:23, Mariano Martinez Peck a Ã©crit : > Hi guys, > > First, let me say that I found very cool that I can do a "git checkout > X" from command line, and from Pharo, opening the MC browser detects I > am in another branch and everything seems to work. So I guess that's the > way I manage branches? Simply "git checkout X" and then go to MC , and > do a "load" of the last version of the repo? (or another image, whatever). Yes, exactly. > The problem is now with merging. Not necessary about the metadata ( I > guess we have less metadata conflicts with Metadata-less GitFileTree > right???) , but real code changes conflicts between branches. How do you > manage this? You manage everything at Git level using git and text editors? yes, or with git gui tools, or with the github interface (if there is no conflict). The only thing a bit problematic are the eventual conflicts, but, in that metadata-less format, they are less frequent and easier to solve. > I cannot think how to do that from MC browser "Merge" because MC sees > only one repo associated to one current branch. It is possible to do the merge in MC (think of merging your current working copy and the top of the branch) but they won't be recorded in the git log as a merge. Thierry > Any pointer is appreciated. > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Jan. 16, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Growl setting name

by stepharo

Finally "Growl is a global notification system and pop-up notification implementation for the Mac OS X and Windows[1] operating systems. " So?

Jan. 16, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Growl setting name

by stepharo

So if you want to change (and some tools should not hardcode access to GrowlMorph) a better name would be NotifierPopup Le 16/1/16 09:03, stepharo a Ã©crit : > but notificationPopup is misleading because this is not a Notification > (Exception). > > Stef > > Le 15/1/16 23:36, Ferlicot D. Cyril a Ã©crit : >> Le 15/01/2016 22:51, Mariano Martinez Peck a Ã©crit : >>> I clearly would use Notification as part of the name, and not Growl. >>> NotificationPopup? >>> >> I love this one! >> >>> -- >>> Mariano >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> > > >

Jan. 16, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Growl setting name

by stepharo

but notificationPopup is misleading because this is not a Notification (Exception). Stef Le 15/1/16 23:36, Ferlicot D. Cyril a Ã©crit : > Le 15/01/2016 22:51, Mariano Martinez Peck a Ã©crit : >> I clearly would use Notification as part of the name, and not Growl. >> NotificationPopup? >> > I love this one! > >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >

Jan. 16, 2016