July 2015 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Event handling insanity

by Igor Stasenko

On 27 July 2015 at 18:23, Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Nothing here is about things to fix, > > but rather about how impossible to debug event handling in system that > runs > > and relies on very same events.. > > I had very annoying problem with mouse move handling and processing it > > correctly, and i finally solved the problem after number of attempts to > > track down where problem lies in.. > > > > So, here is small list of problems i faced: > > > > - broken image (image won't start up) , because i send unimplemented > > message in critical place, thus image simply non-responsible/crashing > > immediately after startup. Easy to fix (sarcasm) > > > > - debugger window spam on every event (because of DNU/other exception). > > A slightly friendlier problem than above :) > > > > - and last one, if you break some event handling/delivery, even if image > > "behaves" you simply left without events doing what is needed, means you > got > > another form of a broken image, which you cannot use anymore and need to > > start over and revert the changes you made. > > > > - veeeerrrrryyy slow event handling, because of printing every event into > > transcript , trying to see where the shit lies. > > Instead of printing them to Transcript, add the Events to a global > OrderedCollection. Extremely fast and now you can even instrospect > them. > > > - decrypting kilometers long event traces to see what goes where > > Filter what goes in and/or trim your global collection. > > Well that , of course, is an option.. i was considering building some tools that i need.. But that means extra work on a tooling support, with own specialized UI.. Sure thing, if i would have years ahead, i would do it this way :) The problem is that event tracing/tracking is only one small piece of puzzle. Of course better tools would help a lot, but the scope of UI hacking is way much larger than just tracking events. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

July 28, 2015

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July 28, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 13cb32: 50196

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Branch: refs/heads/5.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 13cb32c1dc18695278ad42efb548bd016fe30afd https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/13cb32c1dc18695278ad42ef… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2015-07-28 (Tue, 28 Jul 2015) Changed paths: M ConfigurationOfRubric.package/ConfigurationOfRubric.class/instance/symbolic versions/stable_.st A ConfigurationOfRubric.package/ConfigurationOfRubric.class/instance/versions/version1162_.st M Polymorph-Widgets.package/extension/SystemWindow/instance/nextMorphAcrossInWindow.st M Rubric.package/RubAbstractTextArea.class/instance/editing/acceptContents.st A Rubric.package/RubHorizontalScrolled.class/README.md A Rubric.package/RubHorizontalScrolled.class/class/instance creation/scrollValue_.st A Rubric.package/RubHorizontalScrolled.class/definition.st A Rubric.package/RubHorizontalScrolled.class/instance/accessing/scrollValue.st A Rubric.package/RubHorizontalScrolled.class/instance/accessing/scrollValue_.st M Rubric.package/RubParagraph.class/instance/drawing/drawOn_using_at_.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextModel.class/instance/shout/hasBindingOf_.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextModel.class/instance/text managing/text_.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/README.md M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/definition.st A Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/accessing/highlights.st A Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/accessing/highlights_.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/acessing text/updateTextWith_.st A Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/drawing/drawOnAthensCanvas_.st A Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/drawing/drawOn_.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/drawing/drawSubmorphsOn_.st M Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/initialize-release/initialize.st A Rubric.package/RubScrolledTextMorph.class/instance/model protocol/drawHighlightsOn_.st A Rubric.package/RubTextScrollPane.class/instance/scrollbar managing/hScrollbarValueWithoutAnnouncement_.st M Rubric.package/RubTextScrollPane.class/instance/scrollbar managing/hScrollbarValue_.st M Rubric.package/RubTextScrollPane.class/instance/scrollbar managing/scrollByKeyboard_.st M Rubric.package/RubTextScrollPane.class/instance/scrollbar managing/scrollBy_.st A Rubric.package/RubTextScrollPane.class/instance/scrollbar managing/vScrollbarValueWithoutAnnouncement_.st M Rubric.package/RubTextScrollPane.class/instance/scrollbar managing/vScrollbarValue_.st A Rubric.package/RubVerticalScrolled.class/README.md A Rubric.package/RubVerticalScrolled.class/class/instance creation/scrollValue_.st A Rubric.package/RubVerticalScrolled.class/definition.st A Rubric.package/RubVerticalScrolled.class/instance/accessing/scrollValue.st A Rubric.package/RubVerticalScrolled.class/instance/accessing/scrollValue_.st R ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script50195.st A ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script50196.st R ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update50195.st A ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update50196.st M ScriptLoader50.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st M Slot.package/BooleanSlot.class/instance/TODO/todo.st A Slot.package/BooleanSlot.class/instance/code generation/emitStore_.st A Slot.package/BooleanSlot.class/instance/code generation/emitValue_.st Log Message: ----------- 50196 16051 Incorrectly structured tab window can make VM spinlock https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16051 16052 BooleanSlot: implement code generation https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16052 16054 Update Rubric configuration https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16054 http://files.pharo.org/image/50/50196.zip

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get better fonts?

by Dimitris Chloupis

ah ok I stand corrected . 5K will be my next iMac :) On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:48 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > On 28 Jul 2015, at 16:35, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > is this a macbook only issue because I have iMac 27'' late 2013 which > its retina is even higher resolution and I have no such issue. > > That is not Retina, only the 5K 27-inch iMac is. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina_Display > > Retina more or less means that you have double the actual real resolution > than you are actually using. > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:04 PM Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > wrote: > > Do you by any chance have a retina MacBook? If yes, the fuzziness of > fonts is due to that. > > > > Doru > > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:37 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Hi > > > > with my new glasses (yes age) I know see all the details of characters. > I tried to set some freeType fonts using settings > > and I enforce FreeType but I do not succeed to get nice fonts. > > Am'I doing something wrong? > > > > Stef > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > >

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get better fonts?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 28 Jul 2015, at 16:35, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > is this a macbook only issue because I have iMac 27'' late 2013 which its retina is even higher resolution and I have no such issue. That is not Retina, only the 5K 27-inch iMac is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina_Display Retina more or less means that you have double the actual real resolution than you are actually using. > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:04 PM Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Do you by any chance have a retina MacBook? If yes, the fuzziness of fonts is due to that. > > Doru > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:37 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi > > with my new glasses (yes age) I know see all the details of characters. I tried to set some freeType fonts using settings > and I enforce FreeType but I do not succeed to get nice fonts. > Am'I doing something wrong? > > Stef > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get better fonts?

by Dimitris Chloupis

is this a macbook only issue because I have iMac 27'' late 2013 which its retina is even higher resolution and I have no such issue. On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:04 PM Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Do you by any chance have a retina MacBook? If yes, the fuzziness of fonts > is due to that. > > Doru > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:37 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> with my new glasses (yes age) I know see all the details of characters. I >> tried to set some freeType fonts using settings >> and I enforce FreeType but I do not succeed to get nice fonts. >> Am'I doing something wrong? >> >> Stef >> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] about quality assistant

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

> > #beSomething is quite common pattern (even recommended in Kent's Best > Practice Patterns), maybe it should check for name 'be'<Uppercase> before > applying the critic? > This is a good proposal. Would be nice to hear other opinions. Maybe we > can open an issue on the bug tracker so people can comment. > However I do not really want to ban the critic, because there may other > legitimate applications in the method/class; and in Roassal-heavy code it's > a nuisance. > So it would require context-aware checks (probably user-defined?) like "if > receiver is subclass of RTShape then don't apply this (yourself) ruleâ. > > Yes, itâs a very good point. It is in my plans to see how we can allow > frameworks to provide their own critics and interact/override the default > ones. For now all I can suggest is to ban the critic on the level of the > class, or if we will reach the common sense there can be a ban on the level > of package tag, so you can keep all the roassal-related classes in one tag > and ban the rule for them. I created issues for both so it doesn't get lost here. Peter On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:24 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > > Le 28/7/15 11:43, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : > >> But, what does the useless button do? Does it remove from the rules >> quality assistant uses forever? Or is it per class? the rule "Too many >> methods" is useless for the class RTexample, but it is useful for other >> classes >> > > Alex > I was confused too :) > I guess that it does nothing. Just report to the server of yuriy that you > think that this rule is useless. > So there is a clear problem at the UI level. The user cannot disntinguish > what he is doing: > marking false positive > or giving feedback in general. > > Stef > >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> >> Le 27 juil. 2015 Ã 12:53, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> a Ã©crit : >>> >>> This is sad, and shows that I completely failed with that button. >>> Because ideally you had to press it so I can know that this rule had a >>> useful case for somebody. >>> >> >> > >

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus

by david ronan

Ok thanks for your answer Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:23:02 +0200 From: stepharo(a)free.fr To: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus Le 28/7/15 13:30, david ronan a Ã©crit : Hi, I wondering if Nautilus is a port of OmniBrowser into pharo ? No Omnibrowser was based on a framework to develop user interface. Because they just look the same Cheers, David

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] About nextPutAll: $(

by stepharo

>>> Apart from it being hard to read due to </> it's so simple that it >>> doesn't matter and you have little to no gain in trying to make it >>> "nicer". >>> >>> Peter >>> >> > > Faced with a choice of using multiple nextPut: / nextPutAll:'s, and > using a selector like surround:with:and:, or was that put:and:around:, > or did it included between: somehow? > I think I know which I'd end up writing every single time. > > Same reason I think a lot of the specialized collect:/select:'s out > there is pure bloat in a base image, Can you give an example? > and better left defined to users who prefer it. > > Cheers, > Henry

July 28, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get better fonts?

by stepharo

Le 27/7/15 17:54, Peter UhnÃ¡k a Ã©crit : > I think you need to uncheck (disable) FreeType and then check (enable) > it again for it to really load the fonts. > And only then more fonts are available. (at least on linux) Yes I did it. > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:37 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr > <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: > > Hi > > with my new glasses (yes age) I know see all the details of > characters. I tried to set some freeType fonts using settings > and I enforce FreeType but I do not succeed to get nice fonts. > Am'I doing something wrong? > > Stef > >

July 28, 2015