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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo in Rasbian ?

by jannik laval

Hi Chris 2014-05-21 18:11 GMT+02:00 Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com>: > One reason might be that Phratch is kind of redundant isn't it? > For sure, not ! > Smalltalk already has a foothold on the Pi in the form of Squeak, and > Tim Rowledge is being paid by that organization right now to improve > Scratch. So if you're interested in helping kids learn programming > with Scratch, why not check with Tim see if you can find a way help > with what he's doing..? > Yes, we already discussed about that with Tim. Our goal is not the same. I don't want to say something wrong, but Tim want to do Scratch on a recent Squeak, then including BYOB. He is working hard to integrate it on RPi. Phratch is something different: it is based on Scratch, but the goal is to be as much extendable as possible. For example, I use it for robotics. This is not possible in Scratch. Yes there is Enchanting, but it is based on a plugin if I understood well. Another goal is to access to Smalltalk code. As a good learning language, I think that using phratch should help developers to learn smalltalk, which is not a goal of Scratch. So, as I said, we already discussed with Tim, and I am sure we will reuse our work. If I remember, Tim already has a look at phratch source code. For my part, if Tim do plugins that work on RPi, I will probably use them. And I hope to meet Tim at ESUG if he will come to discuss about all of that. Cheers, Jannik > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > Hi! > > > > My point was the following: why Phratch is not included in the default > setting of Rasbian? > > > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > On May 20, 2014, at 9:36 AM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Probably he does not know phratch for Rasberry-Pi: > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick-RP… > >> > >> Cheers :) > >> > >> > >> 2014-05-20 15:32 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > >> Hi! > >> > >> A friend of mine recently bought a Raspberry pi and installed Rasbian, > a Debian-like OS for Raspberry. Squeak and Scratch are installed per > default. There is room to fill here... > >> > >> <image001.png> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Alexandre > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ > >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai > >> Enseignant-chercheur > >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu > >> http://www.phratch.com > >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > >> > > > > > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://car.mines-douai.fr/

May 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing Rubric

by kilon alios

hmm weird now I am getting this warning with both installs This package depends on the following classes: GLMRubricTextPresentation You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: GLMNewSmalltalkCodePresentation compileTextIn:from: debugSelection defaultSelectionActions evaluateSelection evaluateSelectionAndDo: installDefaultSelectionActions printSelection profileSelection GLMPharoMethodPresentation highlightSmalltalkContext renderGlamorouslyOn: smalltalkClass: GLMPharoPlaygroundPresentation renderGlamorouslyOn: updateVariableBindings variableBindings variableBindings: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:12 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > yeah it looks fine now, thank you Andrei :) > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Now you should also be able to load Rubric through its configuration. >> I also updated Glamour to load Rubric through the configuration instead >> of directly loading the package. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Andrei >> >> >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Seems that I placed some classes in the wrong packages. >>> Give it another try. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Andrei >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:26 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> no that does not work either I am getting dependancies warning as well >>>> >>>> this (taken from >>>> http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/PetitParser.… >>>> ) >>>> >>>> Gofer new >>>> smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'PetitParser'; >>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser'; >>>> load. >>>> >>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) perform: #loadDefault. >>>> >>>> gives me this : >>>> >>>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>>> GLMHighlighterTextDecorator >>>> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load >>>> these definitions: >>>> GLMPersonStyler >>>> key >>>> parser >>>> >>>> >>>> Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the >>>> operation." >>>> >>>> and this : >>>> >>>> Gofer new >>>> smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour'; >>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour'; >>>> load. >>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour) >>>> perform: #loadDevelopment. >>>> >>>> gives me same dependencies missing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>wrote: >>>> >>>>> You'll probably be happier loading #development of >>>>> ConfigurationOfGlamour, and you might want to add >>>>> ConfigurationOfPetitParser. I'll take a look at the configuration of Rubric >>>>> >>>>> Stephan >>>>> >>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

May 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing Rubric

by kilon alios

yeah it looks fine now, thank you Andrei :) On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Now you should also be able to load Rubric through its configuration. > I also updated Glamour to load Rubric through the configuration instead of > directly loading the package. > > > Cheers, > Andrei > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Seems that I placed some classes in the wrong packages. >> Give it another try. >> >> Cheers, >> Andrei >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:26 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> no that does not work either I am getting dependancies warning as well >>> >>> this (taken from >>> http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/PetitParser.… >>> ) >>> >>> Gofer new >>> smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'PetitParser'; >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser'; >>> load. >>> >>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) perform: #loadDefault. >>> >>> gives me this : >>> >>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>> GLMHighlighterTextDecorator >>> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load >>> these definitions: >>> GLMPersonStyler >>> key >>> parser >>> >>> >>> Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the >>> operation." >>> >>> and this : >>> >>> Gofer new >>> smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour'; >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour'; >>> load. >>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour) >>> perform: #loadDevelopment. >>> >>> gives me same dependencies missing. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>wrote: >>> >>>> You'll probably be happier loading #development of >>>> ConfigurationOfGlamour, and you might want to add >>>> ConfigurationOfPetitParser. I'll take a look at the configuration of Rubric >>>> >>>> Stephan >>>> >>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone >>>> >>> >>> >> >

May 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo in Rasbian ?

by Chris Muller

One reason might be that Phratch is kind of redundant isn't it? Smalltalk already has a foothold on the Pi in the form of Squeak, and Tim Rowledge is being paid by that organization right now to improve Scratch. So if you're interested in helping kids learn programming with Scratch, why not check with Tim see if you can find a way help with what he's doing..? On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > My point was the following: why Phratch is not included in the default setting of Rasbian? > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > On May 20, 2014, at 9:36 AM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Probably he does not know phratch for Rasberry-Pi: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick-RP… >> >> Cheers :) >> >> >> 2014-05-20 15:32 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: >> Hi! >> >> A friend of mine recently bought a Raspberry pi and installed Rasbian, a Debian-like OS for Raspberry. Squeak and Scratch are installed per default. There is room to fill here... >> >> <image001.png> >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://www.phratch.com >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> > >

May 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing Rubric

by Andrei Chis

Now you should also be able to load Rubric through its configuration. I also updated Glamour to load Rubric through the configuration instead of directly loading the package. Cheers, Andrei On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Seems that I placed some classes in the wrong packages. > Give it another try. > > Cheers, > Andrei > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:26 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> no that does not work either I am getting dependancies warning as well >> >> this (taken from >> http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/PetitParser.… >> ) >> >> Gofer new >> smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'PetitParser'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser'; >> load. >> >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) perform: #loadDefault. >> >> gives me this : >> >> "This package depends on the following classes: >> GLMHighlighterTextDecorator >> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these >> definitions: >> GLMPersonStyler >> key >> parser >> >> >> Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation." >> >> and this : >> >> Gofer new >> smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour) >> perform: #loadDevelopment. >> >> gives me same dependencies missing. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>wrote: >> >>> You'll probably be happier loading #development of >>> ConfigurationOfGlamour, and you might want to add >>> ConfigurationOfPetitParser. I'll take a look at the configuration of Rubric >>> >>> Stephan >>> >>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone >>> >> >> >

May 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Making screenshots programmatically for book

by Stephan Eggermont

I haven't given the way to integrate this in the Pillar workflow enough thought. I need new pictures when: - I don't have any yet; - Possibly when the text changed; - When the image changed; - With a different UITheme. For web applications, I need to integrate with something like Selenium Webdriver to get browser screenshots Stephan Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

May 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing Rubric

by Andrei Chis

Seems that I placed some classes in the wrong packages. Give it another try. Cheers, Andrei On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:26 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > no that does not work either I am getting dependancies warning as well > > this (taken from > http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/PetitParser.… > ) > > Gofer new > smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'PetitParser'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser'; > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) perform: #loadDefault. > > gives me this : > > "This package depends on the following classes: > GLMHighlighterTextDecorator > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these > definitions: > GLMPersonStyler > key > parser > > > Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation." > > and this : > > Gofer new > smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour) > perform: #loadDevelopment. > > gives me same dependencies missing. > > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>wrote: > >> You'll probably be happier loading #development of >> ConfigurationOfGlamour, and you might want to add >> ConfigurationOfPetitParser. I'll take a look at the configuration of Rubric >> >> Stephan >> >> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone >> > >

May 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing Rubric

by kilon alios

no that does not work either I am getting dependancies warning as well this (taken from http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/PetitParser.… ) Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'PetitParser'; package: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) perform: #loadDefault. gives me this : "This package depends on the following classes: GLMHighlighterTextDecorator You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: GLMPersonStyler key parser Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation." and this : Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Glamour'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour) perform: #loadDevelopment. gives me same dependencies missing. On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > You'll probably be happier loading #development of ConfigurationOfGlamour, > and you might want to add ConfigurationOfPetitParser. I'll take a look at > the configuration of Rubric > > Stephan > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone >

May 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing Rubric

by Stephan Eggermont

You'll probably be happier loading #development of ConfigurationOfGlamour, and you might want to add ConfigurationOfPetitParser. I'll take a look at the configuration of Rubric Stephan Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

May 21, 2014

Installing Rubric

by kilon alios

Besides the reported problem of configurationsOfRubic not working as every class method returns an error I have also a problem with RubicTextAreaDecoratorExample package that seems to missing some dependencies and it particular "This package depends on the following classes: PPCompositeParser You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: RbEPersonColorizer parseAndShowInAWorkspace attribute attributeList attributeValue blanks identifier person personKW registry start '' Also I tried the RubTextFieldExample open, it creates the text field and I can put text inside it but if I press ESC it sends a MNU: RubTextFieldExample>>menu. Right clicking too sends the same messages as well .

May 21, 2014