March 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeTreeInspector -> Simple Mode?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Ah, looks like I was looking at something returning the class and not a proper object, so, of course, there are lots of things. Phil On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:20 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > Is there a way to get the EyeTreeInspector in Pharo3 to only display > instance variables and globals and not the whole set of things that are of > no interest when developing business style applications? > > Or put the instance vars first. > > I'll dig in there for my own use but for newcomers, that's a real PITA I > guess. > Maybe a filter icon or something would come helpful (or a > SimpleEyeTreeInspector option in the drop down) > > Phil > > >

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeTreeInspector -> Simple Mode?

by Sebastian Sastre

+1 Fancy that adds unpracticality is a no no no if you care about productivity And sorry but in this case, having the class there isnât even fancy (is consistent but in a nonsensical way) We already gave this feedback On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:20 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > Is there a way to get the EyeTreeInspector in Pharo3 to only display instance variables and globals and not the whole set of things that are of no interest when developing business style applications? > > Or put the instance vars first. > > I'll dig in there for my own use but for newcomers, that's a real PITA I guess. > Maybe a filter icon or something would come helpful (or a SimpleEyeTreeInspector option in the drop down) > > Phil > > > <EYE19-03-14 17-17-58.png>

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Tiling Window Manager in 3.0: working but still issues with WorldMorph

by phil＠highoctane.be

Would you mind putting the configuration in the 3.0 Metarepo? Phil On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Laurent Laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi Phil, > > with latest ConfigurationOfTilingWindow manager World management (almost) > works. Still a little display issue when creating a new world (need to > change back and forth, seems to be some World repaint issue). > > I've also merged some experiments with GrowlMorph. > > Laurent > > > Le mardi 11 mars 2014, 13:27:57 Laurent Laffont a Ã©crit : > > Thanks a lot Phil. I will try to have a look. > > > > Laurent > > > > > > Le samedi 8 mars 2014, 11:57:30 phil(a)highoctane.be a Ã©crit : > > > TWM works in 3.0 after some work on icons and updating menus. > > > > > > Gofer new > > > smalltalkhubUser: 'LaurentLaffont' project: 'TilingWindowManager'; > > > configuration; > > > load. > > > > > > ((Smalltalk at:#ConfigurationOfTilingWindowManager) project version: > '3.0') > > > load > > > > > > You can also use > > > > > > ((Smalltalk at:#ConfigurationOfTilingWindowManager) project version: > > > #development) load > > > > > > but this will for sure change over time. > > > > > > There is the World management icon which is still there and it looks > like > > > it can create worlds but switching between them just breaks havoc. > > > > > > Maybe should we just remove that feature from TWM as 3.0 doesn't seem > to be > > > multiworld friendly. > > > > > > Nothing done on tests nor themeing (which appears to be not that > working > > > well in 3.0 either due to theming changes); > > > > > > At least the thing is back :-) [I missed it...] > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > >

March 19, 2014

EyeTreeInspector -> Simple Mode?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Is there a way to get the EyeTreeInspector in Pharo3 to only display instance variables and globals and not the whole set of things that are of no interest when developing business style applications? Or put the instance vars first. I'll dig in there for my own use but for newcomers, that's a real PITA I guess. Maybe a filter icon or something would come helpful (or a SimpleEyeTreeInspector option in the drop down) Phil

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo and ST books page (as another Seaside demo on PharoCloud)

by Serge Stinckwich

Great stuff !! Maybe you could use a more packed presentation like this one : http://pythonbooks.revolunet.com/ On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > There are some free Smalltalk books collected by Stef in the past. > > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html > > Yet this page is often unknown to people. > > > I therefore converted them to a more Seaside like demo using the Bootstrap project at: > > http://pharo.pharocloud.com/pharobooks > > as part of the Pharo/Seaside/Bootstrap demos at http://pharo.pharocloud.com > Code for this is on http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/PharoCloud. > > > I would suggest that we create a shortlink "books.pharo.org" for > http://pharo.pharocloud.com/pharobooks to it - any takers? This way we can > tell people: > > "Ahh you want to get Pharo, just use get.pharo.org" > "Ahh you want to download Pharo, just use files.pharo.org" > "Ahh you want to enhance Pharo, just use bugs.pharo.org" > "Ahh you want to control Pharo, just use ci.pharo.org" > > and now > > "Ahh you want to learn Pharo, just use books.pharo.org" > > to be continued ... > > Kudos to Stef for the collection and to Mike for being able to host > a demo on pharocloud. > > Have fun > T. > -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

March 19, 2014

Phratch on Ubuntu

by jannik laval

Dear Community, Thanks to Damien Cassou, Phratch can now be installed on Ubuntu using apt-get. If you are an Ubuntu user on 12.10, 13.10 or 14.04, you can very easily install Phratch. You have to add the Pharo PPA (ppa:pharo/stable) and install Phratch by issuing these commands: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pharo/stable $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install phratch Then just run $ phratch Thank you again Damien ! -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

March 19, 2014

XBRL parser/processor?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Smalltalkers, Sorry for the cross posting..... I wonder if anyway is aware of a Smalltalk parser/processor of XBRL (http://xbrl.sec.gov/) ? I know it's XML but it seems some extra work/features are needed besides a XML parser to fully support XBRL data extraction. Thanks in advance, -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Just found, i can compile this:

by Eliot Miranda

Hi Christophe, On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:45 AM, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Le 18 mars 2014 Ã 19:50, Eliot Miranda a Ã©crit : > >> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Christophe Demarey <Christophe.Demarey(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> Why arguments should be read only? >>> They are just temporary variables with an initial value. >> >> Read the blue book. It was a decision of the language designers to forbid assignment to arguments to allow debugging. The assignment to block arguments is a side-effect of the old BlockContext implementation of blocks where block arguments were mapped onto temporary variables of the home context. It is an anachronism and should be forbidden also. > > Thank you for the explanation. > I'm just curious why it is so difficult to implement a debugger if arguments are assignable? > If you need to restart the execution of a method, and so you need to get the initial value of the argument, I understand you cannot find the value anymore in the method context but it is available in the caller context, no? > As I never implemented a debugger, I cannot figure out the difficulties. the args are no longer available; they get moved from the caller context to the callee. If you think about stack frames then what happens is that the slots containing the outgoing arguments are used as the slots for the incoming arguments. So if arguments are assigned to they are indeed lost. But look at how many methods in the system (or in any system). The proportion of methods/functions/procedures that could be written to assign their arguments is very small so the Smalltalk trade off is a good one. Eliot (phone)

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Phratch Website + version 3.0 in dev

by jannik laval

Thank you Torsten. I changed it. Jannik 2014-03-19 15:42 GMT+01:00 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de>: > HI Jannik, > > Nice, note there is a typo on the page "Phrao 2.0" instead of "Pharo 2.0". > Would also be nice if these were real links to pharo.org > > Bye > T. > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. MÃ¤rz 2014 um 15:10 Uhr > Von: "jannik laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> > An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org>, "ESUG Mailing > list" <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org>, "Any question about pharo is welcome" < > pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org>, "phratch(a)googlegroups.com" < > phratch(a)googlegroups.com> > Betreff: [Pharo-dev] Phratch Website + version 3.0 in dev > > Dear all, > > I am pleased to announce Phratch website: www.phratch.com[ > http://www.phratch.com] > Thanks to the support of ESUG, it is possible to make visible this > wonderful project. > > For now, what is available on the site: > - a presentation of Phratch (you can refer to it now) > - installation files, there is a portable version for Windows, Linux, > MacOS. > - tutorials > - block documentation: generated from a Phratch image ! > - Some elements for Jetstorm (a lot of new articles will come soon) > - a category with news > > Now about the versions, I am developing the version 3.0 > Why this number ? Why a third version in one year of work ? > It is clear that a lot of work is already done. Each version represents > strong changes in the architecture. > - version 1.0 is the port of Scratch + BYOB + Panther in Pharo. It is > working but not extendable. > - version 2.0 makes Phratch really extendable. We can develop our own > block for everything in Pharo. I also make Phratch more modular with the > use of Pragmas for some menus, declaration of blocks... It is available only > in Pharo 3.0. There are some languages available, I hope more people can > translate in other languages ( > http://www.phratch.com/archives/612[http://www.phratch.com/archives/612]) > - version 3.0 is the version in development. What is new here: Before this > version Phratch was really slow. I am cleaning the code, and now it begins > to be fast, really fast ! We also begun to write tests. > > I am really happy to have the support of ESUG and Pharo. > Thanks to the community to make Pharo as usable as it it, it makes our > dreams possible. > > Cheers,-- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu[http://www.jannik-laval.eu] > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Phratch Website + version 3.0 in dev

by Torsten Bergmann

HI Jannik, Nice, note there is a typo on the page "Phrao 2.0" instead of "Pharo 2.0". Would also be nice if these were real links to pharo.org Bye T. Â Gesendet:Â Mittwoch, 19. MÃ¤rz 2014 um 15:10 Uhr Von:Â "jannik laval" <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> An:Â "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org>, "ESUG Mailing list" <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org>, "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org>, "phratch(a)googlegroups.com" <phratch(a)googlegroups.com> Betreff:Â [Pharo-dev] Phratch Website + version 3.0 in dev Dear all, Â I am pleased to announce Phratch website: www.phratch.com[http://www.phratch.com] Thanks to the support of ESUG, it is possible to make visible this wonderful project. Â For now, what is available on the site: - a presentation of Phratch (you can refer to it now) - installation files, there is a portable version for Windows, Linux, MacOS. - tutorials - block documentation: generated from a Phratch image ! - Some elements for Jetstorm (a lot of new articles will come soon) - a category with news Â Now about the versions, I am developing the version 3.0 Why this number ? Why a third version in one year of work ? It is clear that a lot of work is already done. Each version represents strong changes in the architecture. - version 1.0 is the port of Scratch + BYOB + Panther in Pharo. It is working but not extendable. - version 2.0 makes Phratch really extendable. We can develop our own block for everything in Pharo. I also make Phratch more modular with the use of Pragmas for some menus, declaration of blocksâ¦ It is available only in Pharo 3.0. There are some languages available, I hope more people can translate in other languages (http://www.phratch.com/archives/612[http://www.phratch.com/archives/612]) - version 3.0 is the version in development. What is new here: Before this version Phratch was really slow. I am cleaning the code, and now it begins to be fast, really fast ! We also begun to write tests. Â I am really happy to have the support of ESUG and Pharo. Thanks to the community to make Pharo as usable as it it, it makes our dreams possible. Â Cheers,-- ~~JannikÂ Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu[http://www.jannik-laval.eu] http://car.mines-douai.fr/

March 19, 2014