January 2014 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where to report bugs?

by Marcus Denker

On 29 Jan 2014, at 11:32, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> wrote: > I hope weâre not making it harder than it should for fear to feedback > > It has already been concluded that fogbugz was a mistake. Itâs just not made for an open source project. Now moving will be *a lot* of work and we have not even found a replacement that is scriptable. We first need to release Pharo3 before we sink indefinite amounts of time into this. Marcus

Jan. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issues 12717 and 12684

by Nicolai Hess

2014-01-29 Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> > Nicolai Hess wrote > > And I don't like the name either. > > I would prefere Binding or ValueBinding. > > Guys, I don't love the name either, but can we do a little better than "I > don't like it". The purpose of ValueHolder's existence was to notify > changes > to its value. A reactive variable, from FRP, kinda-sorta does that. How > does > Binding = 'I will notify of changes to my value'?! > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Issues-12717-and-12684-tp4739761p4740024.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > We don't need to argue about names, ReactiveVariable is not wrong, I just don't like it:-) I just wanted to emphase on the missing discussion. Doing this change after the Pharo3 release may be more difficult than now. Even if it is a bit late. So, I am happy we have at least both. (We should try to force the use of the new name.) (Binding or PropertyBinding is how it is called in QTs QML) Nicolai

Jan. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] No more MouseWheelEvents?

by Sebastian Sastre

There is something about the wheel because often, at least in Nautilus, you get crazy scrolls you dindât asked for Specially if using trackpad, two finger, scroll On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:09 AM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am not exactly sure, but I think mouseWheelEvents were always > simulated with Ctrl events. > > > Hilaire > > > Le 29/01/2014 00:06, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : >> How it comes we lost the MouseWheelEvents. >> The SimpleHierarchicalListMorph in FileList does not scroll on >> MouseWheelEvents. >> Or at least it worked that way in Pharo2. But now the MouseWheel creates >> a keyboardevent "<Ctrl->". >> (Other ListMorphs can handle this, but the ListMorph in FileList can not.) >> >> nicolai >> > > > -- > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu > >

Jan. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where to report bugs?

by Sebastian Sastre

I hope weâre not making it harder than it should for fear to feedback On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:13 AM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 28/01/2014 16:53, Noury Bouraqadi a Ã©crit : >> I tried fogbugz but I failed to connect... > > Reading your email I can't help smiling, and it make me fill I was not > so idiot when I could'nt use the bugs tracker. > > Seriously you should read the instruction and view the video tutorial at > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/ > because it is a bit unusual, especially to get your password. > > Hilaire > > > -- > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu > >

Jan. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] packages in 3.0

by Norbert Hartl

Am 28.01.2014 um 23:47 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > On 28 Jan 2014, at 23:34, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> >> Am 28.01.2014 um 22:50 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> they do not appear because they shouldnât :) >>> >>> MCPackage = RPackage in 3.0 >>> >> Ah, very good. I see this of course shortly after I applied ones again stupid package names to be able to separate tests. >> >>> that means that you need 3 mc packagesâ¦ or 1 r packages + 2 tags >>> >> tags? What year is it? At the moment Iâm feeling as I had been off the list for quite a while! Ok, Iâll try to find these myself. >> >> Btw. 30 minutes ago I found metacello stuff (create baseline, create development version) in the menu of the monticello packages. Great stuff! Are you sure there isnât a lot of good stuff sneaking in without anyone noticing? >> >>> btwâ¦ there are still some glitches with that that need to be fixed. Please report if/when you find them :) >>> >> Oh my, I hate it because that is the one thing Iâm good atâ¦.finding bugs. > > coolâ¦ we need more like you (and so far Stef has the podium) :) > Is there anything to take care in a mixed environment. I have 2.0/3.0 mixed setting here. From now on I like to develop in 3.0 even if the code is loaded into a 2.0 image. Can I expect trouble when loading the finer grained packages produced via 3.0 in a 2.0 image? Norbert >> >> Norbert >> >>> Esteban >>> >>> On 28 Jan 2014, at 22:29, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>> >>>> I have a project that defines a package >>>> >>>> Project-Core >>>> >>>> then I added some more like >>>> >>>> Project-Core-Exception >>>> Project-Core-Command >>>> â¦ >>>> >>>> but those do not appear in the monticello package. Is it supposed to be that way from 3.0 on or is this a bug? >>>> >>>> Norbert

Jan. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Reading symbols from StdIn

by Santiago Bragagnolo

As i readed in the implementation of python and c, there is a lib called termios, that has a function tcgetattr, that should be the one that let me set a flag on the file descriptor for avoiding it for echo. 2014-01-29 Santiago Bragagnolo <santiagobragagnolo(a)gmail.com> > > > Hi all Pharoers :). > > Im making an example for usage of PhaROS and i need to send commands. I > would want to read the arrows and, if it is possible, to do not print the > echo of the pressed key. > > > Can any one point me something obvious i didn't see?? :) > > thank you. > > Santiago >

Jan. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

by Esteban Lorenzano

and btwâ¦ iosbuild/resource$ ./generate.sh should generate a 1.4 image that *should* work in ipad (no idea if that will be the case, its been more than 6months since I do not test it and vm changed since then). Esteban On 29 Jan 2014, at 10:23, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > PharoIPhoneBuilder buildIPhone. > > it should generate all sources and a âbuild.shâ > > then > > build$ sh build.sh > > will generate an xcode project. > > and let me rememberâ¦ mmmâ¦ yeah, that was all :) > > > > On 29 Jan 2014, at 08:10, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Esteban, >> >> Hum, this means that my instructions are outdated. >> Where are the right instructions ? The ones on Github do not mention IOS. >> >> Cheers, >> Jannik >> >> >> 2014-01-29 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >> >> On 29 Jan 2014, at 00:18, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> because you are not following the instructions ;) >>> >>> basicallyâ¦ you can generate them by: >>> >>> build$ ../scripts/extract-commit-info.sh >>> >>> I asked for this info last week ;-). Thanks! >> >> hey! I answered you! :P >> >> >>> >>> But this is alarming: >>> >>> McStalker.pharovm$ ./scripts/extract-commit-info.sh >>> readlink: ./scripts/extract-commit-info.sh Invalid argument >>> >>> I suggest changing >>> SCRIPT_DIR=`readlink "$0"` || SCRIPT_DIR="$0"; >>> to read >>> SCRIPT_DIR=`readlink "$0" >/dev/null` || SCRIPT_DIR="$0"; >>> >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> On 28 Jan 2014, at 23:15, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you, I am trying the latest one. >>>> >>>> When compiling for IOS, I have an error in sqSCCSVersion.h >>>> >>>> #include "vmVersionInfo.h" // defines REVISION_STRING >>>> the file is not found. >>>> >>>> Anyone knows where is this file ? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Jannik >>>> >>>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 8:58 PM, Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef(a)free.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>>> jannik the latest vm is not on gitoruous anymore but git >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27 Jan 2014, at 22:03, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hum, have I the correct repository ? >>>>>> I used this one: https://git.gitorious.org/cogvm/cog-osx.git >>>>>> >>>>>> But, I just saw that this one exists: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm >>>>>> I should use it no? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jannik >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2014-01-27 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> 1.4 and 2.0 worked out of the boxâ¦ and after my latest integration, 3.0 should work too. >>>>>> I will take a look as soon as I have half and hour to spare. >>>>>> >>>>>> Esteban >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 27 Jan 2014, at 14:27, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi list, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone try to load Pharoon iPad ? >>>>>>> In the past, the version 1.4 worked with XCode 4.4. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just tried to recompile it with the new XCode (5.0.2). >>>>>>> The VM seems to work, but the pharo 1.4 image freezes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any idea ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>>>>>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>>>>>> Enseignant-chercheur >>>>>>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>>>>>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>>>>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>>>>> Enseignant-chercheur >>>>>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>>>>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> best, >>> Eliot >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> >

Jan. 29, 2014

Reading symbols from StdIn

by Santiago Bragagnolo

Hi all Pharoers :). Im making an example for usage of PhaROS and i need to send commands. I would want to read the arrows and, if it is possible, to do not print the echo of the pressed key. Can any one point me something obvious i didn't see?? :) thank you. Santiago

Jan. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] iPad version does not work ?

by Esteban Lorenzano

PharoIPhoneBuilder buildIPhone. it should generate all sources and a âbuild.shâ then build$ sh build.sh will generate an xcode project. and let me rememberâ¦ mmmâ¦ yeah, that was all :) On 29 Jan 2014, at 08:10, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Esteban, > > Hum, this means that my instructions are outdated. > Where are the right instructions ? The ones on Github do not mention IOS. > > Cheers, > Jannik > > > 2014-01-29 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > > On 29 Jan 2014, at 00:18, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> because you are not following the instructions ;) >> >> basicallyâ¦ you can generate them by: >> >> build$ ../scripts/extract-commit-info.sh >> >> I asked for this info last week ;-). Thanks! > > hey! I answered you! :P > > >> >> But this is alarming: >> >> McStalker.pharovm$ ./scripts/extract-commit-info.sh >> readlink: ./scripts/extract-commit-info.sh Invalid argument >> >> I suggest changing >> SCRIPT_DIR=`readlink "$0"` || SCRIPT_DIR="$0"; >> to read >> SCRIPT_DIR=`readlink "$0" >/dev/null` || SCRIPT_DIR="$0"; >> >> >> Esteban >> >> On 28 Jan 2014, at 23:15, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thank you, I am trying the latest one. >>> >>> When compiling for IOS, I have an error in sqSCCSVersion.h >>> >>> #include "vmVersionInfo.h" // defines REVISION_STRING >>> the file is not found. >>> >>> Anyone knows where is this file ? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jannik >>> >>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 8:58 PM, Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef(a)free.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> jannik the latest vm is not on gitoruous anymore but git >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 Jan 2014, at 22:03, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hum, have I the correct repository ? >>>>> I used this one: https://git.gitorious.org/cogvm/cog-osx.git >>>>> >>>>> But, I just saw that this one exists: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm >>>>> I should use it no? >>>>> >>>>> Jannik >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014-01-27 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>>>> 1.4 and 2.0 worked out of the boxâ¦ and after my latest integration, 3.0 should work too. >>>>> I will take a look as soon as I have half and hour to spare. >>>>> >>>>> Esteban >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27 Jan 2014, at 14:27, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi list, >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone try to load Pharoon iPad ? >>>>>> In the past, the version 1.4 worked with XCode 4.4. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just tried to recompile it with the new XCode (5.0.2). >>>>>> The VM seems to work, but the pharo 1.4 image freezes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any idea ? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>>>>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>>>>> Enseignant-chercheur >>>>>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>>>>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>>>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>>>> Enseignant-chercheur >>>>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>>>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> best, >> Eliot > > > > > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

Jan. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where to report bugs?

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 28/01/2014 16:53, Noury Bouraqadi a Ã©crit : > I tried fogbugz but I failed to connect... Reading your email I can't help smiling, and it make me fill I was not so idiot when I could'nt use the bugs tracker. Seriously you should read the instruction and view the video tutorial at https://pharo.fogbugz.com/ because it is a bit unusual, especially to get your password. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Jan. 29, 2014