September 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Naming of Global Session

by Igor Stasenko

Even more, it feels like we introducing another global (so users can write 'Session current' , but why not just 'Session' then?) and so a step backwards as to me. Because we trying to get rid of all those Display, World, InputSensor , ActiveHande etc globals for years. And last thing: there should be only one way to get current session object. now there's two: Smalltalk session and Session current and so, users now will inevitably raise the question: what is the right 'true' API for accessing it? and inevitably we will have two fighting camps, if we leave this thing in image and be used in various projects. On 13 September 2013 01:33, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > +1 too. > Session is a bad name for a class. > More than that, the people who introduced it, > didn't care about: > - removing unused session ivar from SmalltalkImage class > - that putting #reset in Session class side, means exposing resetting > mechanism to > public, instead of keeping it private (and it is quite important to keep > it private, > because session should be reset once and only once and only in single , > fully controllable place) > > from that perspective, i'd prefer using 'session' ivar in SmalltalkImage > instead of > 'current' in Session. > > > > > On 12 September 2013 15:13, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> +1 >> >> Very abstract names are fine when you have namespaces, otherwise I rather >> chose more specific names. >> >> Regards! >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >> >> 2013/9/12 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> >> >>> In Pharo 3.0 there is a new class "Session" - to represent the current >>> smalltalk >>> session. Using the term "Session" is very abstract. >>> >>> IMHO I would rather like to see it named more specific like >>> "ImageSession", >>> "PharoSession" or "SmalltalkSession" before it get used too much. >>> >>> Any comments? >>> T. >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Sept. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Naming of Global Session

by Igor Stasenko

+1 too. Session is a bad name for a class. More than that, the people who introduced it, didn't care about: - removing unused session ivar from SmalltalkImage class - that putting #reset in Session class side, means exposing resetting mechanism to public, instead of keeping it private (and it is quite important to keep it private, because session should be reset once and only once and only in single , fully controllable place) from that perspective, i'd prefer using 'session' ivar in SmalltalkImage instead of 'current' in Session. On 12 September 2013 15:13, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com>wrote: > +1 > > Very abstract names are fine when you have namespaces, otherwise I rather > chose more specific names. > > Regards! > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2013/9/12 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > >> In Pharo 3.0 there is a new class "Session" - to represent the current >> smalltalk >> session. Using the term "Session" is very abstract. >> >> IMHO I would rather like to see it named more specific like >> "ImageSession", >> "PharoSession" or "SmalltalkSession" before it get used too much. >> >> Any comments? >> T. >> >> >> > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Sept. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Annotating classes

by Igor Stasenko

On 12 September 2013 13:56, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > We can mark methods with pragmas and ask the pragma collector > to give the methods marked with it. > > Do we (already) have some kind of pragma like mechanism to annotate > classes? I mean a general mechanism that one can use to mark classes > with pragmas/settings/ ...? > > There are various scenarios where this might be useful: > - an ORM mapper would like to associate a persistence class with a table > name > - an NBExternalStructure subclass wrapping a structure can be annotated > with > the original struct name > - ... > > Why so complicated (e.g. pragmas) ? Just add one more inst var , like 'annotation' for Class object and you have it. > Thx > T. > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Sept. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to state up to date with Pharo ?

by Norbert Hartl

Am 11.09.2013 um 14:35 schrieb Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com>: > Is there some guide to do the same in a private environment? > I is... using an HTTP/FTP/Git server as the monticello repo (SmalltalkHub seems overkill). I wrote this once for turning apache into a monticello repository http://norbert.hartl.name/blog/2009/06/08/public-monticello-repository/ Maybe it is what you are looking for, Norbert

Sept. 12, 2013

CI Status

by Camillo Bruni

- http://ci.inria.fr/pharo continues to be critical. Slaves are still not reachable, the ci.inria.fr team should be working on a solution. - http://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution has a disk-size problem which I mitigated by deleting the workspace at the end of a build. - http://ci.inria.fr/rmod already lost 2 out of 4 slaves yours sincerely, the CI Janitor

Sept. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Overall synchronisation is nice. > > I've replaced MessageBrowser and the Finder UI in my own Pharo with what? > , and I now have unified menus, shortcuts and smart suggestions and I find it really, really nice. do you have suggestion for the menus unification? > > Took time to get there :( > > Thierry > -- > Thierry Goubier > CEA list > Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s > 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex > France > Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 >

Sept. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks marcus. I have to take care of my family so I will not be available. On Sep 12, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires! >> When: sept 14 (This saturday!) We start at 10 and estimated finish at 17:00. You can join in any moment! >> Where: 10Pines (Av Leandro N. Alem 693 5Â°B) >> We will fix bugs and we are talking about improving usability (specially in Linux!) > > I will be available remotely to help integrating everything you fix. > > Marcus >

Sept. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

excellent! I would love to have change protocols and refactorings on the message send browser :) On Sep 11, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires! > When: sept 14 (This saturday!) We start at 10 and estimated finish at 17:00. You can join in any moment! > Where: 10Pines (Av Leandro N. Alem 693 5Â°B) > We will fix bugs and we are talking about improving usability (specially in Linux!) > > > > 2013/9/6 Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> > Excelent, now we have to think in wich issues resolve and who will provide the food/drink ;) > > > > 2013/9/6 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > Sounds great to me, > > So to clear: > Title: Pharo Spring > Date: 2013-09-14 (Saturday, Hours to be discussed) > Location: 10pines > > thanks for helping out :) > > On 2013-09-06, at 12:18, Nicolas Passerini <npasserini(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I think it would be great to use 10Pines office if it is available. > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > >> Hello! If we are having hosting problems during the weekend with the > >> sprint we can use 10Pines (http://www.10pines.com/) office.In fact in ten > >> pines we will be very happy to offer our place for this kind of events. > >> During the week is more complex to find room, but we are not used to work > >> during weekends ;) > >> > >> So, the office is near Retiro (Av. Leandro N. Alem y Viamonte) we have > >> internet access and if it's sunny we can use the roof. > >> We should set a date to confirm the availability (again if it's weekend, > >> is available otherwise we should check). > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 2013/9/4 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > >> > >>> From the doodle we're around 7, so I'd count with something like 10 > >>> people? > >>> And yes, I think internet connection is a requirement, at least for > >>> updating the issue tracker. > >>> > >>> On 2013-09-04, at 10:32, Nicolas Passerini <npasserini(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I think UTN is not a good idea for a Pharo sprint, because we will need > >>> a > >>>> good Internet connection and that can not be guaranteed here. > >>>> (Or correct me and tell me that Internet connection is not a must, so we > >>>> can meet here at UTN without problems). > >>>> > >>>> How much people is coming to the Sprint? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Sebastian Tleye <stleye(a)gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> The Pabellon 1 is closed on saturdays afternoon, but have you asked for > >>>>> Pabellon 2? I think it's open on saturdays (i don't know if it is > >>> possible > >>>>> to book a room) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 2013/9/4 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Probably UTN? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> So it looks like we are going to do the Pharo sprint in Buenos Aires > >>>>>>> Saturday, the 14th of September. > >>>>>>> The question is now where do we meet? > >>>>>>> The original idea was to reserver a room at the UBA, but that is not > >>>>>>> possible the weekend. > >>>>>>> Any suggestions? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 2013-09-03, at 09:05, Mariano Martinez Peck < > >>> marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cool. I'll be there, of course! > >>>>>>>> Keep us informed. > >>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Camillo Bruni < > >>> camillobruni(a)gmail.com > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> everything is open so far, guido had the idea of reserving a room > >>> at > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> UBA, > >>>>>>>>> we will have more details tomorrow :) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-02, at 21:24, Gisela Decuzzi <giseladecuzzi(a)gmail.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Great! The idea is to spend the full day? Or do you have any > >>> planed > >>>>>>> time? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2013/9/2 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I spend a month in Buenos Aires working together with Guido > >>> Chari @ > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> UBA, > >>>>>>>>>>> we take this opportunity to organize a Pharo sprint outside > >>> France > >>>>>>> ;) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> We are in early preparation phase and the date nor location isn't > >>>>>>> fixed > >>>>>>>>>>> yet, > >>>>>>>>>>> so if you are motivated to join, can mark possible dates on this > >>>>>>> doodle: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/qey7iieqm5yr4wwy > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, > >>>>>>>>>>> camillo > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Mariano > >>>>>>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Taller de Lenguajes de ProgramaciÃ³n" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to tlp-utn-2012+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > > >

Sept. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] NBFFI version of the OpenDBXDriver

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks Rocio. This project is really important! I love the little tutorials. Stef On Sep 12, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Rocio Amaya <rochiamaya(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > I'd like to show a bit the outcome of the first iteration of the DBXTalk Gsoc of this year. > > First, I've been adapting myself to the environment and technology (DBXTalk, OpenDBX, TalkFFI), and I've written some little tutorials of what I've learnt about them: > > - Post of how to install OpenDBX > http://rochiamaya.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/how-to-install-version-1-4-6-of-… > - Post of how to install and use TalkFFI to generate mappings > http://rochiamaya.wordpress.com/2013/07/30/create-bindings-with-talkffi/ > - Post of how to use mappings generated by TalkFFI > http://rochiamaya.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/how-to-use-the-generated-binding… > > > Also, as concrete code, we have built a NBFFI version of the OpenDBXDriver. The main idea of this is to provide a backward compatibility layer to people that use OpenDBX, while letting us move forward dropping the old FFI implementation. > > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'DBXTalk' project: 'Configurations'; > configurationOf: 'OpenDBXDriver'; > load. > (((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOpenDBXDriver) > perform: #project) > perform: #version: with: â1.3â) > load: 'DeveloperGroup'. > > > However, the configuration still supports to load the former version of the driver (no NBFFI) > > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'DBXTalk' project: 'Configurations'; > configurationOf: 'OpenDBXDriver'; > load. > (((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOpenDBXDriver) > perform: #project) > perform: #version: with: â1.3â) > load: 'FFIDriver'. > > > And the configuration with only NBFFI version. > > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'DBXTalk' project: 'Configurations'; > configurationOf: 'OpenDBXDriver'; > load. > (((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOpenDBXDriver) > perform: #project) > perform: #version: with: â1.3â) > load: 'NBFFIDriver'. > > > To use, writte in the Workspace and DoIt: > > âto set the NBFFI bindâ > LibOpenDBXMap initialize. > OpenDBX current: NBPharoOpenDBX new. > âor to set the oldFFI bindâ > OpenDBX current: FFIOpenDBX ffiImplementationForOS . > > > In our current/next steps, we are starting to dig into the other driver implementations. I'm currently working in a Mysql driver implementation that will use the C mysql library directly without the intermediation of OpenDBX. That way, the setup of the environment will be far easier and the entry barrier will be lowered. > > > Best Regards! > Rocio. >

Sept. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Naming of Global Session

by Esteban A. Maringolo

+1 Very abstract names are fine when you have namespaces, otherwise I rather chose more specific names. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/9/12 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > In Pharo 3.0 there is a new class "Session" - to represent the current > smalltalk > session. Using the term "Session" is very abstract. > > IMHO I would rather like to see it named more specific like "ImageSession", > "PharoSession" or "SmalltalkSession" before it get used too much. > > Any comments? > T. > > >

Sept. 12, 2013