March 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger-driven development (was Re: WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24)

by stephane ducasse

Hi Frank Since you are present in the Pharo mailing-list, may be you want to send the code to get it included into pharo, please do it? >> (Squeak trunk now lets you create methods not just on an MNU but also >> where people have things like "self subclassResponsibility", "self >> notYetImplemented" or "self shouldBeImplemented" flags such that you >> can debug-edit-and-continue.) Stef

March 14, 2013

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Some love to NBOpenGL (making it up-to-date with pharo 2.0)

by Igor Stasenko

Hi, there since Pharo 2.0 is out (well almost ;) ) , it is time to update configuration of stuff .. today the prize goes to NBOpenGL project (Athens tomorrow).. I did not much, just boring things: - migrated all packages on smalltalkhub (http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/NBOpenGL) from squeaksource. - updated configuration(s). I removed explicit dependency from NativeBoost, since it is in 2.0 by default. - rescued a legacy TrueType package, which was thrown out of base image, so i took a freedom to put it in NBOpenGL repository, because it seems only my demo code does something with it :) If you wanna try if it works, do: 1. Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'NBOpenGL'; package: 'ConfigurationOfNBOpenGL'; load. 2. (ConfigurationOfNBOpenGL project version: '2.0') load 2.1. If VM crashes when doing step 2. Download the stable one from [http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/vm/pharo/] and repeat step 2. (Many many thanks to Esteban who was persistent enough ditching this problem finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) 2.2. if VM still crashes, you know who to blame ;) 3. GLTTRenderingDemo new openInWorld (if it works you shall see some strange Cyrillic (no, it is not Klingon) letters zooming in and out again in a loop :) 4. If you on windows or linux, report problems. Because i did not tried it there. ;) But for me it was a great relief to see it working at least on my Mac after many perturbations with 2.0 and NativeBoost over past half-year. P.S. ah.. yeah.. if you try to run demo on very old crappy hardware with very old opengl drivers, don't blame anyone that it doesn't works, except yourself :) As far as i remember demo requires at least OpenGL 2.0 support. But this is just a demo, if it doesn't works, it doesn't immediately means that you cannot use nativeboost opengl bindings in your own project and make things work properly for older versions of opengl. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] No matter what I do today...

by Esteban A. Maringolo

And as the biblical story tells, St. Esteban was the first martyr... stoned by lots of VM crashes, he kept his faith and today announces peace on images. I look forward to migrate my incipient stuff from 1.4 stable to 2.0 stable :) Regards. Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/3/14 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > yeah... we argentinians are closer to heaven today (and farther from > justice, but well...) :D > > On Mar 14, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Hernan Wilkinson <hernan.wilkinson(a)10pines.com> > wrote: > > maybe not saint but pope :-) > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Miracle. >> >> (One more and we can declare you saint! ) :) >> >> Thanks for the hard work, Esteban. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > > > > -- > HernÃ¡n Wilkinson > Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching > Phone: +54 - 011 - 6091 - 3125 > Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 > email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com > site: http://www.10Pines.com > Address: Alem 693, Floor 5 B, Buenos Aires, Argentina > >

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] No matter what I do today...

by Esteban Lorenzano

yeah... we argentinians are closer to heaven today (and farther from justice, but well...) :D On Mar 14, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Hernan Wilkinson <hernan.wilkinson(a)10pines.com> wrote: > maybe not saint but pope :-) > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Miracle. > > (One more and we can declare you saint! ) :) > > Thanks for the hard work, Esteban. > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > > > > > -- > HernÃ¡n Wilkinson > Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching > Phone: +54 - 011 - 6091 - 3125 > Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 > email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com > site: http://www.10Pines.com > Address: Alem 693, Floor 5 B, Buenos Aires, Argentina

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] No matter what I do today...

by Hernan Wilkinson

maybe not saint but pope :-) On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Miracle. > > (One more and we can declare you saint! ) :) > > Thanks for the hard work, Esteban. > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > > -- *HernÃ¡n Wilkinson Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching* *Phone: +54 - 011 - *6091 - 3125* Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/>* Address: Alem 693, Floor 5 B, Buenos Aires, Argentina

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] No matter what I do today...

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Awesome!!! Esteban +1 On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I confirm that the 2 failing tests were fault of Fuel. Now I fixed it > and all is green again. I wonder how is possible that with the other > vm these tests were green. > Thank you Esteban! > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > wrote: > > Esteban +1000! (that's a factorial) > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > 2013/3/14 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: > >> Miracle. > >> > >> (One more and we can declare you saint! ) :) > >> > >> Thanks for the hard work, Esteban. > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Igor Stasenko. > >> > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

March 14, 2013

[Pharo-project] Fuel 1.8 -> 1.9 migration (was: Re: please test 2.0)

by Martin Dias

Hi Yanni, Could you migrate all your objects to the new format? Best regards, Martin On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Yanni Chiu <yanni(a)rogers.com> wrote: > > > On 01/03/13 1:54 PM, Martin Dias wrote: >> >> I'm sorry but AFAIK you won't be able to materialize in 1.8.x the files >> you serialized with 1.8. Maybe Max has some trick to do it? > > > I got an exception: > > FLBadVersion: Materialization error. Unexpected stream version 18 where > it should be 182. > > I disabled the version check, and things loaded fine. But, I've yet to find > a saved file with a Date or DateAndTime instance. > > >

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] No matter what I do today...

by Martin Dias

I confirm that the 2 failing tests were fault of Fuel. Now I fixed it and all is green again. I wonder how is possible that with the other vm these tests were green. Thank you Esteban! On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > Esteban +1000! (that's a factorial) > > Phil > > > > 2013/3/14 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: >> Miracle. >> >> (One more and we can declare you saint! ) :) >> >> Thanks for the hard work, Esteban. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> >

March 14, 2013

[Pharo-project] About Smalltalk getSystemAttribute: 1009 [WAS: Re: where to report vm crashes? (while running Moose tests)]

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:43 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > But it would be nice if there was more agreement on the format of Smalltalk getSystemAttribute: 1009. This is a useful attribute and nice if it were parsed by the Pharo image code. yes, I agree... maybe something like this: Pharo|Squeak|Newspeak MAJ.MIN.BUG:Cog|Stack|Interpreter MAJ.MIN.BUG:EXTRA-FOR-TASTE So, something for pharo would look like: Pharo 2.0.0:NBCog 1.0.0:git://gitorious.org/~estebanlm/cogvm/cog-osx.git Commit: c4036bdcc3ecf22561e40288def79ef39fb91875 Date: 2013-02-28 14:08:38 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> we have a fixed part and a variable part, so everybody can have their own special information at the end... I think this would solve our identification problems... what do you think? Esteban

March 14, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] where to report vm crashes? (while running Moose tests)

by Esteban Lorenzano

On Mar 13, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 12 March 2013 19:44, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 3. Pharo has forked the VM to include a) NativeBoost and b) ephemerons and > > c) new FileSystem primitives. > > a) is cool, but I don't like the x86 specificity. I want a cross-platform > > FFI, so I'm not excited enough to include NB in my port. > > Just let me remind you that (x86 specificity) is completely on image side. > The VM side changes are minimal and 100% not platform specific. > Making NB image-side implementation platform-unspecific is another story.. > but as i said before i see no reason to do it unless there's a version > of Cog which runs > on some other platform :) > > I understand that. I think Squeak should provide a platform-independent FFI at the image level. > > > There is plans and some work started on getting there, by making a > platform-neutral low-level > DSL, which can be used for generating native code. > > This is called RTL ;) I never hear about it... you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Register_transfer_language ? If so, looks interesting :) Esteban > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > > > > > -- > best, > Eliot

March 14, 2013