October 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-dev] Start with a trivial improvement!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 10, 2013, at 2:22 PM, kilon <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > This is something I was contemplating lately for my project Ephestos. The > problem I see with your approach is that it takes a long time to see those > changes integrated into Pharo cause AFAIK there are not many people to check > out those "fixes" approve them and then integrate them. Now multiple that by > 1000. Yeah right ! > > So I decided to follow the external library route. My initial concern about > my project was that I want a better Morphic. Now the sensible start would be > to do what you suggested, start small , fix morphic problems here and there, > tiny clean ups to the code etc. But I realised that if someone pings me back > months later about a fix he does not like and I am way forward in the > development process that could seriously mess with my code and even make it > hard to change the fix. > > So it was a great news indeed that morphic is entirely (or almost entirely > ?) written in smalltalk. I am back at studying opengl since I want to make > an opengl implementation of moprhic , but also I would also like to get rid > of things I dont like about morphic. Making it into an external lib also > makes sure I dont brake people's code but also I am tied into things I dont > like and need the approval of the community to fix. > > So yes I agree that what you say sounds ideal in theory, but its not ideal > in practice. but we are not talk ing about theory. if nobody take care about little glitches them you will have a house full of little borken glasses and dirt everywhere. And I do not work to live there. My house is cosy warm and really cool and everyday I clean it. I fix a door handle as soon as I see it having a problem not waiting that the door falls on the floor. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Start-with-a-trivial-improvement-tp4713648p4713655.ht… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Oct. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] permission denied http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30Inbox/main ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

nicolas should push a change to Smalltalkhub so that people can publish freely in inbox On Oct 12, 2013, at 1:18 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Could someone give permission to submit a slice, please? > My username is vonbecmann. > Thanks. > > > -- > Bernardo E.C. > > Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

Oct. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocketry problems in 3.0

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I cannot check now (running to breakfast :)) but you should load the latest development version. > I used this one: > > Gofer it url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/sig/TxText/main'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfTxText'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at:#ConfigurationOfTxText) project version: '1.0') load: #('ALL'). > > > 2013/10/11 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > Denis Kudriashov > >I ask because Igor make big progress on his design implementation which I > >think will replace my work totally. > >So if you want to join his development you don't need my code at all > >(remove it) > > Where is it hosted? Any pointers to code? > > Thx > T. > >

Oct. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocketry problems in 3.0

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 11, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As Markus said it is good idea to add #argumentNames to block. > > What exactly you want to see at TxText? > I ask because Igor make big progress on his design implementation which I think will replace my work totally. > So if you want to join his development you don't need my code at all (remove it) Not totally from what I saw and monday all the tests were green and we published the code because it was the end of a large refactoring to get immutable objects into place and having tests were cool. When we start a new behavior like copyText we started with tests. Stef > > But my version (which is at configuration) is usable and works nice for end user applications. I actually use it for my tasks. > > > > 2013/10/11 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> > I recently checked the progress on TxText and I saw that half of the tests fail > under 3.0 due to an incompatibility in Mocketry on BlockClosure>>#argumentNames > trying to decompile the block contents. This feature is no longer available, > instead you have to access the AST directly: > > BlockClosure >> #argumentNames > ^ self sourceNode arguments collect: [ :each | each name ] > > Would it be possible to integrate that on a 3.0 branch? It's quite a pity to > waste so many tests :) >

Oct. 12, 2013

Startup Preferences: An Alternative

by Sean P. DeNigris

Startup Preferences are great, but I felt limited by the "evaluate text files" approach, so I thought, "what's the minimum amount of code necessary to bootstrap into real smalltalk?" I came up with a really simple .st preference file that just loads a Metacello config with all my preferences. One cool thing is that this file never changes; all updates are to the packages which are loaded by the config. Talking to Ben at ESUG, I realized this might be helpful to people so I put it at http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~SeanDeNigris/DeNigrisPreferences . There may be some stuff hardcoded, but at least you can see (and steal ;)) the approach if you find it valuable. There is more description in the project info on sthub. HTH. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Startup-Preferences-An-Alternative-tp4713968.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 12, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] permission denied http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30Inbox/main ?

by Sean P. DeNigris

vonbecmann wrote > Could someone give permission to submit a slice, please? Done. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/permission-denied-http-smalltalkhub-com-mc-Pharo-Phar… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 12, 2013

permission denied http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30Inbox/main ?

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

Could someone give permission to submit a slice, please? My username is vonbecmann. Thanks. -- Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

Oct. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocketry problems in 3.0

by Nicolas Cellier

I used this one: Gofer it url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/sig/TxText/main'; package: 'ConfigurationOfTxText'; load. ((Smalltalk at:#ConfigurationOfTxText) project version: '1.0') load: #('ALL'). 2013/10/11 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > Denis Kudriashov > >I ask because Igor make big progress on his design implementation which I > >think will replace my work totally. > >So if you want to join his development you don't need my code at all > >(remove it) > > Where is it hosted? Any pointers to code? > > Thx > T. > >

Oct. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Image Command Line Handlers

by Sean P. DeNigris

philippeback wrote > Are those changes going to find their way in Pharo 2.0? If you need them, you can try to load the Backport-Pharo-Issue-11571-to-20 package from http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/PharoSpd. Two caveats: 1. there is a post-load doit 2. I haven't tested the changes in 2.0 HTH ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/New-Image-Command-Line-Handlers-tp4713693p4713932.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How is this possible?

by Sean P. DeNigris

Marcus Denker-4 wrote > I will > -> commit an update where the code moves the temps to the method > -> then fix the compiler next week Thanks, Marcus! ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-is-this-possible-tp4713857p4713931.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 11, 2013