January 2013 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Association: alone we have little power, but many we are strong

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks for the idea Yes we will do that and explain it on the various web sites. Stef On Jan 20, 2013, at 3:40 AM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > > > On 19/01/13 1:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> Just a point: Join the Pharo association because all together we can get some power. > > The association/consortium needs some work on marketing/promotion. There was a question at the Toronto Smalltalk User Group that seemed to indicate to me that the association is not well understood, whereas the consortium is somewhat understood but "too expensive for individuals". > > Maybe, for those who do not follow the various lists, there could be a "Frequently Announced Items" posting that explains the consortium and association, and gives sign up links. I personally dislike automated posts, but sometimes people don't absorb all the information when it flies by on the mailing list just once. > > >

Jan. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Association: alone we have little power, but many we are strong

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks Sean. I really believe that we can do something alltogether. stef On Jan 20, 2013, at 2:54 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote >> Just a point: Join the Pharo association because all together we can get >> some power. > > Thanks for the reminder! All signed up... > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Association-alone-we-have-little-power-but-many… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Jan. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Association: alone we have little power, but many we are strong

by Yanni Chiu

On 19/01/13 1:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > Just a point: Join the Pharo association because all together we can get some power. The association/consortium needs some work on marketing/promotion. There was a question at the Toronto Smalltalk User Group that seemed to indicate to me that the association is not well understood, whereas the consortium is somewhat understood but "too expensive for individuals". Maybe, for those who do not follow the various lists, there could be a "Frequently Announced Items" posting that explains the consortium and association, and gives sign up links. I personally dislike automated posts, but sometimes people don't absorb all the information when it flies by on the mailing list just once.

Jan. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Association: alone we have little power, but many we are strong

by Sean P. DeNigris

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote > Just a point: Join the Pharo association because all together we can get > some power. Thanks for the reminder! All signed up... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Association-alone-we-have-little-power-but-many… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Pharo Association: alone we have little power, but many we are strong

by Igor Stasenko

On 19 January 2013 21:39, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Of course I forgot the most important > http://association.smalltalkhub.com > hmm.. this one: http://association.pharo.org/ looks more correct to me. perhaps one that you giving is for testing/developing? > Stef > > On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> Just a point: Join the Pharo association because all together we can get some power. >> For example, I would like that we brainstorm about what kind of effort the association >> want to sponsor. >> - real headless image >> - other network protocols >> -â¦ >> >> So far we are 35 but I really dream about a moment where we will be much more. >> If you find some value to Pharo and you want to encourage its evolution, this is simple. >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Jan. 19, 2013

[Pharo-project] Pharo Association: alone we have little power, but many we are strong

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys Just a point: Join the Pharo association because all together we can get some power. For example, I would like that we brainstorm about what kind of effort the association want to sponsor. - real headless image - other network protocols -â¦ So far we are 35 but I really dream about a moment where we will be much more. If you find some value to Pharo and you want to encourage its evolution, this is simple. Stef

Jan. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 19, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote >> thanks Square [i] International <http://www.square-i.net/> >> ... headless support will be included in the official Pharo >> VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. > > Yes, thank you, thank you!! I've been using Pharo for Jenkins build scripts, > and it was really disruptive to see the image pop up every time a job > started. > > As to the flag limitation, I think for now I'll have two copies of the VM - > a headful one, which will be the default on my Mac, and one with the > headless flag set, that gets explicitly launched by Jenkins... not perfect, > but a HUGE step!! Yes this is why we thank Square [i] And I would like to really encourage effort in that direction. > > Cheers, > Sean > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-Headless-support-for-Cog-Cocoa-VM-tp4664137p46642… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Jan. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Where should SmalltalkHub bugs be reported?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Excellent! Thanks for your time. Stef On Jan 19, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote >> can you open a bug entry because I do not like this smell :) > > Issue 7291: Monticello asks for credentials when none are required > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7291 > > Pharo2.0a > Latest update: #20476 > > 1. In the MC Browser, add the repo: > MCHttpRepository > location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/dh83/fisleg/main' > user: 'SeanDeNigris' > password: '' > 2. Click "Open" in the MC Browser > > You will be prompted for a username (which is pre-filled) and password > (which is blank), even though none are required to simply open the repo. If > you don't fill them in with valid credentials, the repo will not open (the > window opens, but doesn't show any packages). In 1.4459 (Summer), this repo > would open without any prompts. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Where-should-SmalltalkHub-bugs-be-reported-tp4663973p… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Jan. 19, 2013

[Pharo-project] About Nautilus "show class"

by Igor Stasenko

Hi, first, i must say, using a checkbox to switch between instance/class side is good idea, much much less confusing than with 2-state button. i just don't happy with label, imo a better label would be 'class side' -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Jan. 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Headless support for Cog Cocoa VM

by Sean P. DeNigris

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote > thanks Square [i] International <http://www.square-i.net/> > ... headless support will be included in the official Pharo > VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. Yes, thank you, thank you!! I've been using Pharo for Jenkins build scripts, and it was really disruptive to see the image pop up every time a job started. As to the flag limitation, I think for now I'll have two copies of the VM - a headful one, which will be the default on my Mac, and one with the headless flag set, that gets explicitly launched by Jenkins... not perfect, but a HUGE step!! Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-Headless-support-for-Cog-Cocoa-VM-tp4664137p46642… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 19, 2013