April 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] HMI (was: One more project proposal for GSoC)

by Dennis Schetinin

So, here is the proposal: Name: Khubbatov Rustem Difficulty Level: Intermediate Description A framework for building Human-Machine Interfaces with Pharo back-end providing model, and presentation front-end in Amber. Technical Details A concrete task that should be implemented with this project is a prototype of UI for network management system or SCADA. Server-side (Pharo) will simulate network components and their data, and provide relevant events for client (Amber). The latter will present network items, their state and associated information, and provide UI to control them. An important part of this system is a communication layer between Amber and Pharo. Benefits for the Student The student will gain experience in building client-server applications with advanced UI and providing two-way communication between client and server. Benefits for the Community An ability to create highly interactive web-based applications is a must-have feature for any modern development system. Amber is a bleeding edge in this area in Smalltalk world. A good communication layer between Amber and (for example) Pharo is a very appealing decision for building complex client-server systems. Best regards, Dennis Schetinin Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) On Monday, 2 April 2012 Ð³. at 21:47, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > I'd suggest to go ahead. This is first Amber-related project, so it seems even more interesting. But hurry up. Let Rustem prepare the proposal and you post here then we'll open the project page. > > Best regards > Janko > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Dennis Schetinin <chaetal(a)gmail.com (mailto:chaetal@gmail.com)> wrote: > > Rustem Kkubbatov (http://gsoc2012.esug.org/rustem-khubbatov) another student I mentor in Tver State University, decided to try his luck with a project for GSoC. The problem is he can't currently choose a better approach. > > > > The original idea is to build a two-tier Human-Machine Interface (HMI) system (which can be used in a wide range of projects) with Pharo image as back-end (where a model lives) and Amber-based client as a front-end. But this thing seems to be "a little bit" too large for GSoC, isn't it? > > > > An alternative task could be to build a framework for message exchanging between Pharo and Amber. I could be the first mentor for a project based on original idea, or the second/first (depending on if anyone interested) for communication framework. > > > > Any ideas and advices are welcome (ASAP). Thank you in advance. > > > > Best regards, > > Dennis Schetinin > > >

April 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] SciSmalltalk first commit

by Serge Stinckwich

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:27 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Apr 2, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> i made the first commit for the SciSmalltalk project. The code is >> available here: >> https://github.com/SergeStinckwich/SciSmalltalk > > just a question why not ss3? Because i love git and the FileTree monticello repository work done by Dale ;-) I will push a copy on ss3 also. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

April 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] SciSmalltalk first commit

by Serge Stinckwich

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Chris Cunningham <cunningham.cb(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Serge Stinckwich > <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> In order to have something coherent, every sub-librairies of >> Sci-Smalltalk should be packaged as 'Math-XXX'. Right now, i have >> Math-Random and Math-Random-Tests. >> > Just curious, why Sci in the name, but Math as the package? Â I could > see that growing over time, but to start with the discrepancy seems > odd. Â Not a problem, just odd. I think that "Math-XXX" is more easy to understand for than "SciSmalltalk-XXX" (for someone who don't know what is SciSmalltalk). Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

April 3, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Following the white rabbit

by Craig Latta

Proceed For Truth, Esteban! :) -C -- Craig Latta www.netjam.org/resume +31 6 2757 7177 + 1 415 287 3547 + 1 510 282 7468

April 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Must watch: Momentum, roadmaps and more by Jason Fried

by Jimmie Houchin

On 4/2/2012 9:58 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote: > On 04/02/2012 04:22 PM, Sebastian Sastre wrote: >> Hey guys, >> >> another must watch: >> Momentum, roadmaps and more by Jason Fried [1] >> >> it's a bit old but is great stuff > Is there somewhere a non-Flash version? > > Cheers > Philippe I like to download using DownloadHelper, which is a Firefox extension. http://www.downloadhelper.net And then view with VLC. http://www.videolan.org/vlc I really hate watching stuff in the browser, unless it is very short or I have no choice. HTH Jimmie

April 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Little challenge for you

by Guillermo Polito

Hehe, yes. I only managed to see how to build the script, :P. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:13 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > > On Apr 2, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > Stef, > > > > This is polluted and ugly > > :) > > Probably each working copy should be able to propose it :) > > > category := 'Kernel'. > > > > stream := String new writeStream. > > MCWorkingCopy managersForCategory: category do: [ :wc | > > stream nextPutAll: 'Gofer it';cr. > > stream tab; nextPutAll: ('package: {1};' format: { wc packageName > });cr. > > wc repositoryGroup disableCache. > > wc repositoryGroup repositories > > select: [ :repo | repo isKindOf: MCHttpRepository ] > > thenDo: [ :repo | stream tab; nextPutAll: ('repository: {1};' > format: { repo locationWithTrailingSlash });cr. ]. > > wc repositoryGroup useCache. > > stream tab; nextPutAll: 'load.'. > > ]. > > stream contents. > > > > > > And has the problem that if you have several repos for one category... > the script has no sense :). > > Guille > > > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K < > bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: > > Stef, > > > > This reminds me of a Dolphin feature called IDE extensions. Presenters > trigger an event (IIRC off of their class) when the open, and menus and > commands trigger events when they are about to do something interesting. > One can then easily add to an opening menu to add commands to it. > > > > As a silly but relaxing example, I had an extension that played a random > sound clip when a debugger opens. It was easy with extensions, because I > simply watched Debugger class for #open:aDebugger or whatever it is called, > and then play the clip. I have library of short/satirical clips that can > add humor to debugging sessions. More pragmatically, I had tools to help > with creating acessors, compound instance creation methods, etc. It can be > a very powerful feature, and all it takes is trigging some events to enable > it. > > > > Dolphin makes the (IMHO **HUGE**) mistake of enabling extensions as they > load. For the sake of building a new image from packages, the extensions > should load and then be explicitly activated once a stable new image exists > and has received a backup copy in case changes to the new system cause > havoc with the operation of the extension. > > > > As was quoted recently, "if your ideas are any good, you will have the > cram them down people's throats." :) > > > > Bill > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [ > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of StÃ©phane > Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 6:09 AM > > To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Development > > Subject: [Pharo-project] Little challenge for you > > > > Hi guys > > > > I would love to be able to get the gofer expression automatically from > the ui. > > I click on a package and I ask load me expression and pouf I got a gofer > expressions :) > > > > Anybody wants to improve our tools? > > > > Stef > > > > > > >

April 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Preparing easy loading for Pharo 1.4.

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 2, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > I know it is late within the cycle - but it would be good if > the small fix in > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5575 > > could be integrated into 1.4 image. > > This would allow for easy loading the stable package configs > using the menu: "Tools" -> "ConfigurationBrowser" > and right clicking on "Load configuration and stable version" > > @Stef: Note that "ConfigurationOfNewECompletion" does not work > in 1.4. and should therefore not be in MetaRepoForPharo14. > Can I delete it? I fixed the core instead because some methods disappeared or I did not publish them see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5576 > > Thx > T. > > -- > NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! > Jetzt informieren: http://mobile.1und1.de/?ac=OM.PW.PW003K20328T7073a >

April 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Little challenge for you

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 2, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Stef, > > This is polluted and ugly :) Probably each working copy should be able to propose it :) > category := 'Kernel'. > > stream := String new writeStream. > MCWorkingCopy managersForCategory: category do: [ :wc | > stream nextPutAll: 'Gofer it';cr. > stream tab; nextPutAll: ('package: {1};' format: { wc packageName });cr. > wc repositoryGroup disableCache. > wc repositoryGroup repositories > select: [ :repo | repo isKindOf: MCHttpRepository ] > thenDo: [ :repo | stream tab; nextPutAll: ('repository: {1};' format: { repo locationWithTrailingSlash });cr. ]. > wc repositoryGroup useCache. > stream tab; nextPutAll: 'load.'. > ]. > stream contents. > > > And has the problem that if you have several repos for one category... the script has no sense :). > Guille > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: > Stef, > > This reminds me of a Dolphin feature called IDE extensions. Presenters trigger an event (IIRC off of their class) when the open, and menus and commands trigger events when they are about to do something interesting. One can then easily add to an opening menu to add commands to it. > > As a silly but relaxing example, I had an extension that played a random sound clip when a debugger opens. It was easy with extensions, because I simply watched Debugger class for #open:aDebugger or whatever it is called, and then play the clip. I have library of short/satirical clips that can add humor to debugging sessions. More pragmatically, I had tools to help with creating acessors, compound instance creation methods, etc. It can be a very powerful feature, and all it takes is trigging some events to enable it. > > Dolphin makes the (IMHO **HUGE**) mistake of enabling extensions as they load. For the sake of building a new image from packages, the extensions should load and then be explicitly activated once a stable new image exists and has received a backup copy in case changes to the new system cause havoc with the operation of the extension. > > As was quoted recently, "if your ideas are any good, you will have the cram them down people's throats." :) > > Bill > > ________________________________________ > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 6:09 AM > To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Development > Subject: [Pharo-project] Little challenge for you > > Hi guys > > I would love to be able to get the gofer expression automatically from the ui. > I click on a package and I ask load me expression and pouf I got a gofer expressions :) > > Anybody wants to improve our tools? > > Stef > >

April 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Following the white rabbit

by Benjamin

C'est tres sympa de repondre en espagnole :) Ben On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:11 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > Bien Esteban, toda la suerte para vos y que lo disfrutes! > > No cualquiera puede laburar tiempo completo en Pharo y en las cosas que le gustan, asÃ que buenÃsimo! > > > 2012/4/2 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > Hi list, > > Today was my first day working for Pharo consortium, and is not necessary to write how wonderful experience is to work in something really meaningful for al of us, smalltalkers who are trying to make a living using this environment. > > So far, I'm just starting to feel the magic, how it is everything in the real side of the matrix. A powerful world with tons of valuable things done, tons ongoing and even more tons just being started to dream. > > All my work this year will be improve the Pharo infraestructure and collaborate on consortium kick-off, so I'm going to do things at several levels. > In particular this first week, I will be working on: > -getting Pharo 1.4 ready to release (not just me, everybody here are commited to that, but well... I'm being paid for INRIA to do it :P) > -start the Pharo consortium website building, which I think it will be a pier site with our own developed components. > > I'll keep you on track of what I'm doing. > > best, > Esteban > > ps: Of course, I want to thank to Stef and Marcus for this great job and all the RMOD team here for being so helpful. > > > > >

April 2, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Following the white rabbit

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Bien Esteban, toda la suerte para vos y que lo disfrutes! No cualquiera puede laburar tiempo completo en Pharo y en las cosas que le gustan, asÃ que buenÃsimo! 2012/4/2 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > Hi list, > > Today was my first day working for Pharo consortium, and is not necessary > to write how wonderful experience is to work in something really meaningful > for al of us, smalltalkers who are trying to make a living using this > environment. > > So far, I'm just starting to feel the magic, how it is everything in the > real side of the matrix. A powerful world with tons of valuable things > done, tons ongoing and even more tons just being started to dream. > > All my work this year will be improve the Pharo infraestructure and > collaborate on consortium kick-off, so I'm going to do things at several > levels. > In particular this first week, I will be working on: > -getting Pharo 1.4 ready to release (not just me, everybody here are > commited to that, but well... I'm being paid for INRIA to do it :P) > -start the Pharo consortium website building, which I think it will be a > pier site with our own developed components. > > I'll keep you on track of what I'm doing. > > best, > Esteban > > ps: Of course, I want to thank to Stef and Marcus for this great job and > all the RMOD team here for being so helpful. > > >

April 2, 2012