December 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Small mini howto on moving a project to SmalltalkHub

by Dale Henrichs

GÃ¶ran, Regarding sluggish ss3 searches ... you are absolutely right that not a lot of work has gone into optimizing ss3 for GemStone ... you will note that ss3 is still ALPHA ... ss3 was put into production as alpha over a year ago because smalltalkhub wasn't ready for prime time ... the original intent was not to use the alpha code for production, but something needed to be done to start taking the load off of SqueakSource.com. I'm hoping that one of two things happens in the next year: a) I find enough time to upgrade ss3 to Tobias' latest code base and address some of the performance issues or b) smalltalkhub gets to the point where it replaces ss3 ... Right now, a lot of my effort is being put into making it possible for Smalltalkers to use the original github and git for their projects as their are quite a few advantages to using git that go beyond the social coding bits of github... Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "GÃ¶ran Krampe" <goran(a)krampe.se> | To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:31:15 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Small mini howto on moving a project to SmalltalkHub | | Hey! | | On 12/19/2012 11:10 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: | > By the way, is there a way to see what are the projects that are on | > SmalltalkHub? | | If you read Nicolas answer in this thread before I changed the | subject | line, then you will see that no, currently one can't, but yes, of | course | we should and Nicolas is hacking on it :) | | > It is still not clear to me what are the benefits to use | > SmalltalkHub. | | As I see it: | | - Fully open source. It uses MongoDB at the bottom, not Gemstone. | | - Fast. The architecture with Amber + a RESTful backend + Mongo | should | make it very responsive and fast. | | - Modern look and feel and githubish features (watchers for example). | | > The problem with squeaksource.com is clearly identified: it is | > highly unstable. However ss3.gemstone.com looks reasonable. I can | > browse the project, version of it, see the list of active | > projects. It seems that SmalltalkHub does not show this? | | I would chalk up anything that is "missing" as simply "still | missing". | But we should simply add the features we need. | | > Talking about wished feature, it would be nice to see from which | > countries/cities download and contribution are made... | > | > I really hope to not start a long discussion. This is not my | > objective :-) | | As a side note - I love OODBs and I love multitransactional super | large | persistent shared memory (Gemstone) :) but I still think SS3 seems | very | sluggish in some ways. Yesterday I was searching the projects for | "XMLSupport" - it is of course at the far end of the alphabet ;) - | and I | repeatedly didn't even get an answer... | | So I suspect SS3 is in some ways very naively built (which of course | is | the beauty of Gemstone in many ways, that one can just build it as if | it | was all in the image). | | From Smalltalkhub I *expect* excellent speed because IMHO a modern | app | with such modern tools should simply be very fast. | | regards, GÃ¶ran | |

Dec. 19, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20443

by Marcus Denker

20443 ----- Issue 7147: CleanUp lowlevel dispalyObject anymation methods a little http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7147 Issue 7140: LayoutFrame refactoring http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7140 Issue 7133: Nautilus Cannot rename class in latest image http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7133 Issue 7146: remove FileStream>#dateIsValid http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7146 Issue 5475: flat padded date formats http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5475 Diff information: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/NautilusRefactoring-MarcusDenker.61.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Morphic-MarcusDenker.1308.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/KernelTests-MarcusDenker.461.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Graphics-Display Objects-MarcusDenker.100.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Files-MarcusDenker.ducasse.287.diff

Dec. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] [Issue tracker] issues that need reviews

by Camillo Bruni

I will do a partial pass later today. On 2012-12-19, at 10:06, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Not that a mail like that ever had any effectâ¦ but there are issues that are fixed and could be integrated, the only thing needed is someone > doing a review (to make sure it's a good change and does not break everything): > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=status%3AFixReviewNeeded…

Dec. 19, 2012

[Pharo-project] Small mini howto on moving a project to SmalltalkHub

by Torsten Bergmann

GÃ¶ran wrote: > <snip>lots of nice stuff about SmalltalkHub</snip> I agree with all you wrote and hope to put not too much pressure on Nicolas ... but: 1. at a bare minimum it needs a way to see what projects are hosted as we have seen from the discussion in this thread 2. It's open source - but still there is no - descriptions of what is required to set it up locally - load script or a ConfigurationOfSmalltalkHub so one can load the required packages Especially the last point may be a step to be able for the community to help and contribute and put it on more shoulders. This would lead to better acceptance. Currently it is very dependent on one persons schedule as I already wrote in November: http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2012-November/071497.h… and as we see the wishlist is growing... Thx T.

Dec. 19, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20442

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

20442 ----- Issue 7141: Fix Find Class http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7141 Thanks benjamin van ryseghem Issue 7113: Improving SmallLint Rules Description http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7113 Diff information: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Refactoring-Critics-StephaneDucasse.26.d… http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Polymorph-Widgets-StephaneDucasse.745.di…

Dec. 19, 2012

[Pharo-project] [Issue tracker] issues that need reviews

by Marcus Denker

Not that a mail like that ever had any effectâ¦ but there are issues that are fixed and could be integrated, the only thing needed is someone doing a review (to make sure it's a good change and does not break everything): http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=status%3AFixReviewNeeded…

Dec. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Cleaning up old Jenkins

by Marcus Denker

On Dec 19, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Yes - but the easy to remember "shortcut" subdomain > > http://ci.pharo-project.org > > still points to the old one! > yesâ¦ I will put it on the todo. > Whoever can fix this he should also look at: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7059 > > yes.. Mar

Dec. 19, 2012

[Pharo-project] [Issue Tracker] issues tagged 2.0

by Marcus Denker

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone%3D2.0&colspec=… We need to look at each one and decide -> is this a show stopper for releasing 2.0? - Hint: a bug that was already in 1.4 is *not* - A "nice to have" improvement is not, either. - Same for cleanups. Marcus

Dec. 19, 2012

[Pharo-project] Cleaning up old Jenkins

by Torsten Bergmann

Yes - but the easy to remember "shortcut" subdomain http://ci.pharo-project.org still points to the old one! Whoever can fix this he should also look at: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7059 Bye T.

Dec. 19, 2012

[Pharo-project] Added a 3.0 milestone tag

by Marcus Denker

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone%3D3.0&colspec=… This is for making a list of things to be done *not* for 2.0 but later. E.g. removing URI or cleaning up the use of the low-level DisplayObject animation code by Morphic Drag-n-Drop

Dec. 19, 2012