Göran, Regarding sluggish ss3 searches ... you are absolutely right that not a lot of work has gone into optimizing ss3 for GemStone ... you will note that ss3 is still ALPHA ... ss3 was put into production as alpha over a year ago because smalltalkhub wasn't ready for prime time ... the original intent was not to use the alpha code for production, but something needed to be done to start taking the load off of SqueakSource.com. I'm hoping that one of two things happens in the next year: a) I find enough time to upgrade ss3 to Tobias' latest code base and address some of the performance issues or b) smalltalkhub gets to the point where it replaces ss3 ... Right now, a lot of my effort is being put into making it possible for Smalltalkers to use the original github and git for their projects as their are quite a few advantages to using git that go beyond the social coding bits of github... Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Göran Krampe" <goran@krampe.se> | To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:31:15 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Small mini howto on moving a project to SmalltalkHub | | Hey! | | On 12/19/2012 11:10 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: | > By the way, is there a way to see what are the projects that are on | > SmalltalkHub? | | If you read Nicolas answer in this thread before I changed the | subject | line, then you will see that no, currently one can't, but yes, of | course | we should and Nicolas is hacking on it :) | | > It is still not clear to me what are the benefits to use | > SmalltalkHub. | | As I see it: | | - Fully open source. It uses MongoDB at the bottom, not Gemstone. | | - Fast. The architecture with Amber + a RESTful backend + Mongo | should | make it very responsive and fast. | | - Modern look and feel and githubish features (watchers for example). | | > The problem with squeaksource.com is clearly identified: it is | > highly unstable. However ss3.gemstone.com looks reasonable. I can | > browse the project, version of it, see the list of active | > projects. It seems that SmalltalkHub does not show this? | | I would chalk up anything that is "missing" as simply "still | missing". | But we should simply add the features we need. | | > Talking about wished feature, it would be nice to see from which | > countries/cities download and contribution are made... | > | > I really hope to not start a long discussion. This is not my | > objective :-) | | As a side note - I love OODBs and I love multitransactional super | large | persistent shared memory (Gemstone) :) but I still think SS3 seems | very | sluggish in some ways. Yesterday I was searching the projects for | "XMLSupport" - it is of course at the far end of the alphabet ;) - | and I | repeatedly didn't even get an answer... | | So I suspect SS3 is in some ways very naively built (which of course | is | the beauty of Gemstone in many ways, that one can just build it as if | it | was all in the image). | | From Smalltalkhub I *expect* excellent speed because IMHO a modern | app | with such modern tools should simply be very fast. | | regards, Göran | |