October 2012 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] SSL Failing on Mac

by Norbert Hartl

Am 25.10.2012 um 07:42 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > Igor, Sean, > > On 25 Oct 2012, at 04:19, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have some: >> - add tests to check if it works. So we will know if it functional or not before people >> will start using it and find by themselves :) > > I know that an older plug works, that is not the problem. > > Also, the tests are there: jenkins is building with all Zodiac tests passing. > > The questions are: > > - are we talking about the same vm ? > - if so, why does it work on the build server and not for users ? > I partially answered that in a response to another mail of you. If it comes to dynamic libs there is a source for failure. The library setup is not the same for every e.g. linux. So the prerequisites are compiled into the library but there is nothing to check at installation time. The vm is distributed in a plain file archive and not in an installation package. Building package for each platform could solve it :) I'm thinking since a longer time to package the vm for me so my deployment time will be reduced. It isn't very hard to build those packages. Norbert

Oct. 25, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Confused about SSL Plugin dependencies

by Norbert Hartl

Am 24.10.2012 um 22:08 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > Assuming > > http://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/job/Cog-VM/Architecture=32,OS=linux… > > as linked from > > http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > is the official Linux VM used by the whole build process, I am confused about the dependencies of the shipped SSL plugin. > > On my Ubuntu machine, the following output is of the working plugin: > > ubuntu@ip-10-48-234-254:~/experimental$ ldd bin/libSqueakSSL.so > linux-gate.so.1 => (0xb7702000) > libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/tls/i686/nosegneg/libm.so.6 (0xb76c6000) > libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/tls/i686/nosegneg/libdl.so.2 (0xb76c1000) > libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/tls/i686/nosegneg/libpthread.so.0 (0xb76a6000) > libssl.so.0.9.8 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl.so.0.9.8 (0xb7657000) > libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/tls/i686/nosegneg/libc.so.6 (0xb74ad000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7703000) > libcrypto.so.0.9.8 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 (0xb7334000) > libz.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0xb731e000) > > While the following output is of the non-working version downloaded from the links above > > ubuntu@ip-10-48-234-254:~/experimental$ ldd pharocog/libSqueakSSL.so > linux-gate.so.1 => (0xb77a7000) > libssl.so.6 => not found > libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/tls/i686/nosegneg/libc.so.6 (0xb75ee000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb77a8000) > > What package has to be installed to resolve this dependency ? > Against which library was this variant of the SSL plugin built ? > For me 0.9.8 of the library works. There is just mismatch in the library name SSL is linked and what you get installed in a fresh ubuntu. If you look here # ls -l /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 240624 Aug 16 17:54 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl3.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Apr 24 2012 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl.so.0.9.8 -> /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl.so.0.9.8 we have a libssl.so.0.9.8. But the plugin is linked to a library libssl.so.6. To fix this execute # ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl.so.0.9.8 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl.so.6 Maybe you need to invoke ldconfig afterwards. Norbert > I alread have both the following > > ubuntu@ip-10-48-234-254:~/experimental$ aptitude search "~i" | grep ssl > i A libio-socket-ssl-perl - Perl module implementing object oriented i > i A libnet-ssleay-perl - Perl module for Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) > i libssl0.9.8 - SSL shared libraries > i A libssl1.0.0 - SSL shared libraries > i openssl - Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and relat > i python-openssl - Python wrapper around the OpenSSL library > i A ssl-cert - simple debconf wrapper for OpenSSL > > Thx, > > Sven > > > >

Oct. 25, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] We are looking for two logos for the Pharo Consortium

by Marcus Denker

On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:24 AM, "Peter H. Meadows" <peter.h.meadows(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Where does the name 'Pharo' come from? >From some brainstorming session in early 2008... the idea is that it is a mix of the Portuguese Farol and the french Phare for light-house. > How should it be pronounced? I pronounce it with a non-english "a"... but there is no standard. (like in spanish Mate, the tea stuff, not like the english mate) > Is the thing inside the O supposed to be a lighthouse or a beetle? > Lighthouse. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2LeNBY_5gk -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Oct. 25, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] We are looking for two logos for the Pharo Consortium

by Peter H. Meadows

Where does the name 'Pharo' come from? How should it be pronounced? Is the thing inside the O supposed to be a lighthouse or a beetle? On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:29 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi > > Pharo is looking for a logo for the Consortium Member > > - As a member of the consortium we would like companies to be able to put a logo on their web site. > - we would like to have the same for the association member. > > Does anybody want to propose some logos? > > Pharo Consortium Member is a real challenge :) > Stef > >

Oct. 25, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Started with Athens

by Dennis Schetinin

As my student replied, according to http://www.pharocasts.com/2012/06/athens-and-native-boost-at-work.html, she downloaded the image from https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%201.4/job/Pharo%201.4/lastSucces…. Looks like the conventional Pharo 1.4 works with Athens. That sounds a bit surprising for me. Best regards, Dennis Schetinin Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) On Thursday, 25 October 2012 Ð³. at 11:11, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Dennis Schetinin > > The new configuration helped, so now we have working Athens on Windows. >Thank you! > > > > Where did you get the NativeBoost-VM with the cairo library > for Windows? Havent found it on Jenkins :( > > Is Athens and NativeBoost for 1.4 or for 2.0 already? > > Thanks > T. > > >

Oct. 25, 2012

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20364

by Marcus Denker

20364 ----- Issue 6864: 21/10 change in TransferMorph>>withPassenger:from:hand: makes erroneous position for dragged morph http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6864 Issue 6851: failing test: RGMonticelloTest>>#testConvertingMCClassDefinition http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6851 Issue 6877: 1.5 hour does not work http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6877 Diff information: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Tools-MarcusDenker.962.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Ring-Tests-Kernel-MarcusDenker.35.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Ring-Core-Kernel-MarcusDenker.84.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Polymorph-Widgets-MarcusDenker.716.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Morphic-MarcusDenker.1272.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/KernelTests-MarcusDenker.447.diff http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Pharo20/Kernel-MarcusDenker.1225.diff -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Oct. 25, 2012

[Pharo-project] Getting Started with Athens

by Torsten Bergmann

Dennis Schetinin >The new configuration helped, so now we have working Athens on Windows. >Thank you! Where did you get the NativeBoost-VM with the cairo library for Windows? Havent found it on Jenkins :( Is Athens and NativeBoost for 1.4 or for 2.0 already? Thanks T.

Oct. 25, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Topics for a term project in CG

by Dennis Schetinin

I think we should start with the "Morphic-Athens Integration" problem. Could you please put us in the picture by specifying how we can get recent code and set a (simple for the start) task? Best regards, Dennis Schetinin On Tuesday, 23 October 2012 Ð³. at 19:49, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 23 October 2012 17:09, Dennis Schetinin <chaetal(a)gmail.com (mailto:chaetal@gmail.com)> wrote: > > Ok, it took more than a month to decide, but the result is that we selected > > the "Athens direction". Now we need more details about some of the tasks you > > mentioned to select one: > > > > + integrating Athens with Morphic > > > > I'm possibly mistaken, but I thought you are already working on this? What > > is the state of art here? What are the final objective, and what are the > > recent tasks? Where to start? > > > > > Right, this is not 'start from scratch', but more 'join and help' working style. > The goal is integrate Athens into Morphic ecosystem, and make > everything rendered via Athens, > at the end, replacing completely balloon graphics engine. > > The state of art is: many Morphs are now can render themselves to athens canvas. > Many of them still not there (but easy to implement). > But most hard one is text morph, which doing layout etc.. i am > currently working on it.. > > I implemented a text layout/rendering (by creating a new TextMorph subclass), > but it means that all tools should use this morph.. which is not very good. > > Also, recently we started working on new text model. With the goal to > replace an clean Text, > text editing and text layout in our system (and sure thing , > rendering). This is also requires a lot of work. > > > > > + zoomable interface using Athens > > > > This sounds cool, but could you please explain the idea, how do you see > > possible results? > > > > > This kind of work is rethinking the Pharo UI has in a way to employ > zoomable (vector-based) > capabilities of graphics engine. > How you laying out windows on desktop to prevent clutter? > How you design zoom in/out / pan etc. > > Just google for 'zooming UI' to see many related works. > > http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/05/zoomable-interfaces.html > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ZP23QsRd0&feature=gv > > > > > + Animation framework > > > > The question is almost the same: what kind of animation framework this could > > be? Any prototypes and/or new ideas for it? > > > > > So, the idea is to look for animation in frameworks like SVG > and Apple Animation Framework > and design a framework with similar capabilities for Pharo. > > https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Cor… > > http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/ > > The goal is to enable developers to easily express animations, > and implement different visual effects like zoon-in/out, fade in/out, > flip, sliding and mophing transitions etc > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > >

Oct. 25, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] SSL Failing on Mac

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Igor, Sean, On 25 Oct 2012, at 04:19, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I have some: > - add tests to check if it works. So we will know if it functional or not before people > will start using it and find by themselves :) I know that an older plug works, that is not the problem. Also, the tests are there: jenkins is building with all Zodiac tests passing. The questions are: - are we talking about the same vm ? - if so, why does it work on the build server and not for users ? Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill

Oct. 25, 2012

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Started with Athens

by Dennis Schetinin

The new configuration helped, so now we have working Athens on Windows. Thank you! Best regards, Dennis Schetinin On Wednesday, 24 October 2012 Ð³. at 17:57, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'Athens'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfAthens'; > load. > > ConfigurationOfAthens project lastVersion load. > > And you should use NativeBoost-VMs, which bundled with cairo library: > https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/job/NativeBoost-Cog-VM/ > > On 24 October 2012 13:25, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk (mailto:thekilon@yahoo.co.uk)> wrote: > > Any idea how to get started with Athens ? > > > > How I download it ? > > > > How I install it ? > > > > for now I have found this > > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Athens > > > > and 2 other videos made by Igor. > > > > I am interested in making it work on win7 and macos lion and then after I > > play with it , I would like to contribute. > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > >

Oct. 25, 2012