May 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] A radical proposal (to cut down dead code)

by Igor Stasenko

On 31 May 2011 05:27, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Craig Latta <craig(a)netjam.org> wrote: >> >> > [It's] impossible to authoritatively classify anything as "dead >> > code" unless there's a reference standard of what's core and what's >> > not core... >> >> Â Â Yeah, in the meantime I define "dead" as "not run for some amount >> of time". > > Surely "dead" means not used in the transitive closure of useful packages. > Â I don't see anyone in this thread proposing to trawl Monticello > repositories looking for the latest versions of packages and then analysing > what messages these packages send. Â IMO, only by doing this will you be able > to define what's used in the image. Â One could try and relate the messages > used to the publish date of packages to try and get some idea of the > up-to-date-ness of messages. Â One can perhaps attempt to make some > determination of the liveness of the package by asking the community (basing > this on e.g. last time it was downloaded creates the heisenbug of package > trawling needing to download packages. > Am I mad or is the set of packages out there in Monitcello repositories and > on SqueakMap what really constitutes the working set that the base image > needs to support? Unless you intentionally want to replace old code with new, and possibly with different API. Then scheme for automatic scanning all users of some code could show you unwanted results. Anyways , i think it is futile to attempt to implement an automated analyzis tool for that. Only developer could say what is dead (or what should be dead) anyways. Of course, things like Ring will help us to analyze the code and track its change history. But still, a final decision, what to call "dead" and what "alive" will always be up to humans. > best, > Eliot -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

May 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Tiling Window Manager - status update

by Guillermo Polito

I'll change Meta and stuff to match Ctrl, Cmd and Alt tonight. In the current bleeding edge i've splitted shortcut declaration from settings declaration, so we can put shortcuts without putting them in settings. And it avoids the error you had yesterday when resetting the keymaps ;). The problem with CTRL has to do with: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3748&q=events&colspec=ID%20… That I think is a VM bug :( Maybe it has to be one of the first things to have a look at 1.4 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:16 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Thanks Guillermo. > > KeyMapping is really really really important !!! > > Actually shortcuts using CTRL don't work and I would like CTRL + xxx rather > META + xxx for TWM > > Laurent. > > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Guillermo Polito < > guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I've freezed the version of keymapping you use in TilingWindowManager with >> number 1.7: >> >> Gofer it >> squeaksource: 'ShortWays'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfKeymapping'; >> load. >> >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfKeymapping project version: '1.7') load. >> >> Because I'm doing some changes >> >> >> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:22 PM, laurent laffont < >> laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> First thanks to all people that send patches (and tests !!). Still not >>> haven't merged all of them - don't hesitate to post in repository so code is >>> not lost. Yes I will merge layout policies. >>> >>> Gofer it >>> squeaksource: 'TilingWindowManager'; >>> package: 'TWM'; >>> load. >>> (Smalltalk at: #StandardUITheme) beCurrent. >>> (Smalltalk at: #TWMBar) showTWMBar:true. >>> >>> Tested on PharoCore 1.2 and Pharo 1.3. >>> >>> Now this has support for world snapshot, that means you can arrange the >>> windows and take a snapshot of the layout. Then you can restore these >>> layouts later. (icons camera, <, > and trash). I'm not entirely satisfied >>> with this, thanks for feedback. >>> >>> >>> In Pharo 1.3 there's initial integration with KeyMapping. To load: >>> >>> >>> Gofer it >>> squeaksource: 'ShortWays'; >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfKeymapping'; >>> load. >>> >>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfKeymapping project version: #bleedingEdge) >>> load. >>> >>> >>> Then in settings browser > Keymappings > Tiling Window Managers you have >>> all actions of the dock mapped. >>> >>> Not all shortcuts are working, don't know why, if people can test and >>> find good shortcuts thank you. >>> >>> Creating a nice Metacello Configuration for TWM will be appreciated :) >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#%21/lolgzs> >>> >>> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >>> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >>> >>> >> >

May 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Tiling Window Manager - status update

by laurent laffont

Thanks Guillermo. KeyMapping is really really really important !!! Actually shortcuts using CTRL don't work and I would like CTRL + xxx rather META + xxx for TWM Laurent. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com > wrote: > I've freezed the version of keymapping you use in TilingWindowManager with > number 1.7: > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'ShortWays'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfKeymapping'; > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfKeymapping project version: '1.7') load. > > Because I'm doing some changes > > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:22 PM, laurent laffont < > laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> First thanks to all people that send patches (and tests !!). Still not >> haven't merged all of them - don't hesitate to post in repository so code is >> not lost. Yes I will merge layout policies. >> >> Gofer it >> squeaksource: 'TilingWindowManager'; >> package: 'TWM'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #StandardUITheme) beCurrent. >> (Smalltalk at: #TWMBar) showTWMBar:true. >> >> Tested on PharoCore 1.2 and Pharo 1.3. >> >> Now this has support for world snapshot, that means you can arrange the >> windows and take a snapshot of the layout. Then you can restore these >> layouts later. (icons camera, <, > and trash). I'm not entirely satisfied >> with this, thanks for feedback. >> >> >> In Pharo 1.3 there's initial integration with KeyMapping. To load: >> >> >> Gofer it >> squeaksource: 'ShortWays'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfKeymapping'; >> load. >> >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfKeymapping project version: #bleedingEdge) >> load. >> >> >> Then in settings browser > Keymappings > Tiling Window Managers you have >> all actions of the dock mapped. >> >> Not all shortcuts are working, don't know why, if people can test and find >> good shortcuts thank you. >> >> Creating a nice Metacello Configuration for TWM will be appreciated :) >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#%21/lolgzs> >> >> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ >> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st >> >> >

May 31, 2011

[Pharo-project] "Can I use my favorite text editor?"

by Craig Latta

http://tinyurl.com/3dup5p9 (wordpress.com) -- Craig Latta www.netjam.org/resume +31 06 2757 7177 + 1 415 287 3547

May 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] A radical proposal (to cut down dead code)

by csrabak＠bol.com.br

Em 30/05/2011 23:27, Eliot Miranda < eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com > escreveu: > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Craig Latta <craig(a)netjam.org> > wrote: > > > > [It's] impossible to authoritatively classify anything as "dead > > > code" unless there's a reference standard of what's core and > > what's not core... > Yeah, in the meantime I define "dead" as "not run for some amount > of time". > > Surely "dead" means not used in the transitive closure of useful > packages. Â I don't see anyone in this thread proposing to trawl > Monticello repositories looking for the latest versions of packages > and then analysing what messages these packages send. Perhaps could we use this insight and reverse the consequent and the antecedent: how about have Monticello when having packages deposited create a database of messages sent? To start it could be just a set and afterwards we could go after the "real thing" with a kind of associative tree so we could know which packages are clients of which methods. my 0.1999999..... -- Cesar Rabak

May 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [PBE-Spanish] Status udpate 2011-05-31

by Patricio Plaza

Nico, I'd like to collaborate. Let me know how can I help you. Regards, Patricio Plaza patricio.plaza.a(a)gmail.com 2011/5/31 NicolÃ¡s Paez <nicopaez(a)gmail.com> > Hello everyone, > > I am coordinating the group working on the Spanish translation of Pharo By > Example. Our goal is to have a first rough draft of the whole book by end of > June. > > I am glad to announce that the draft of the first 3 translated chapter is > now available. You can find under the new section it in > http://pharobyexample.org/ or with this direct link: > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28586/PBE1-Spanish-Draft-2011-05-2… > > The current status of the translation is: > > Chapter 01: 20% > Chapter 02: 60% > *Chapter 03: 100%, already publish* > *Chapter 04: 100%, already publish* > Chapter 05: 50% > Chapter 06: 7% > Chapter 07: 46% > *Chapter 08: 0%* > *Chapter 09: 100%, not published yet* > *Chapter 11: 100%, already published* > Chapter 12: 19% > *Chapter 13: 0%* > *Chapter 14: 100%, not published yet* > > > > From now onwards I will send regular status updates. > *If somebody is interested in collaborating (translating or reviewing), > just let me know.* > > Regards, > > NicoPaez. > blog: nicopaez.wordpress.com >

May 31, 2011

[Pharo-project] Numerical packages

by Ignacio Vivona

Hi all! I'm currently planning on doing some work related to resolving partial differential equations (shallow water) in pharo. I'm seeing a couple of project for dealing with vectors, matrices and some other math things. http://www.squeaksource.com/DHBNumerical.html http://www.squeaksource.com/MatrixPlugin.html http://www.squeaksource.com/Numerics.html http://www.squeaksource.com/Smallapack.html Has anyone any experience working with these? Also I'm looking at Mathmorphs (does it work in pharo?) http://mate.dm.uba.ar/~caniglia/mathMorphs.html and DrGEO http://community.ofset.org/index.php/DrGeo for doing the graphical interaction. If someone knows of some other project related please guide me. Thanks in advance, Ignacio Vivona

May 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Tiling Window Manager - status update

by Guillermo Polito

I've freezed the version of keymapping you use in TilingWindowManager with number 1.7: Gofer it squeaksource: 'ShortWays'; package: 'ConfigurationOfKeymapping'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfKeymapping project version: '1.7') load. Because I'm doing some changes On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:22 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > First thanks to all people that send patches (and tests !!). Still not > haven't merged all of them - don't hesitate to post in repository so code is > not lost. Yes I will merge layout policies. > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'TilingWindowManager'; > package: 'TWM'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #StandardUITheme) beCurrent. > (Smalltalk at: #TWMBar) showTWMBar:true. > > Tested on PharoCore 1.2 and Pharo 1.3. > > Now this has support for world snapshot, that means you can arrange the > windows and take a snapshot of the layout. Then you can restore these > layouts later. (icons camera, <, > and trash). I'm not entirely satisfied > with this, thanks for feedback. > > > In Pharo 1.3 there's initial integration with KeyMapping. To load: > > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'ShortWays'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfKeymapping'; > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfKeymapping project version: #bleedingEdge) > load. > > > Then in settings browser > Keymappings > Tiling Window Managers you have > all actions of the dock mapped. > > Not all shortcuts are working, don't know why, if people can test and find > good shortcuts thank you. > > Creating a nice Metacello Configuration for TWM will be appreciated :) > > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#%21/lolgzs> > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st > >

May 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for inputField with memory of the last typed entries

by Alain Plantec

Le 31/05/2011 10:28, Alain Plantec a Ã©crit : > Le 31/05/2011 10:17, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >> yes >> It is package in a standalone class? >> what would be cool is to have a way yo configure it so that when we >> start to type we see the matching expression. > try the search replace dialog. > when you type in something, previous entered expression with the same > prefix are displayed in a popup. > and, when the field is empty, down arrow open the list. you can navigate with the keyboard or pick one item with the mouse :) cheers Alain

May 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Fwd: usability of Pharo and Squeak

by Patrick Barroca

Yes, Tiling Windows Manager change totally the way you can work in Pharo. I Really love it. 2011/5/31 GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio <gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> > Please, just try TWM now! It may not be the best, but it works and > progresses. > > 2011/5/31 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > >> Igor Stasenko >> >window manager can't prevents windows from clutter. >> >the real solution is to change the workflow to not open that many >> windows. >> >> With more than 20 windows the TWM button from Laurents project is >> useless since the tiled windows are too small... >> > > This is not right now (earlier if it was), because now there are many ways > of filter screens, even freeze the current size of the windows, which makes > it very simple and quick way its re-organization. > > >> >> Yes - when working on two classes ... you typically open two windows, >> then three, then more. Thats the problem - anytime a new browser. >> >> I like how Eclipse organizes this with "panes" instead of windows. >> While I dislike that I have to scroll through Java files I like the >> way perspectives and views are organized. Maybe something to look at... >> >> Or a "context browser" where you organize all the classes and >> methods you are working on. >> >> Bye >> T. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! >> Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone >> >> > -- Patrick Barroca

May 31, 2011