March 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3457 in pharo: Cannot show new CompiledMethod's asString

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: FixProposed Comment #3 on issue 3457 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: Cannot show new CompiledMethod's asString http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3457 We should change CompiledMethod to give an error when doing a #new. The comment reads: "This will not make a meaningful method, but it could be used to invoke some otherwise useful method in this class." both #new: and basicNew: say: self error: 'CompiledMethods may only be created with newMethod:header:' The attached changeset removed both #new and #new: and adds #basicNew to raise an error. Attachments: CompiledMethodInstantiation.1.cs 366 bytes

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3735 in pharo: ODBCLibrary class moduleName calls deprecated method

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Invalid Comment #1 on issue 3735 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: ODBCLibrary class moduleName calls deprecated method http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3735 This is not a bug of Pharo... but the ODBC package. Can you send it to the author of that package? As a workaround, you can turn off deprecation warnings in pharo (see Settings).

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3747 in pharo: ' 'Morph' asMorph openInworld' creates a Morph that can't be deleted using meta-click menu

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #1 on issue 3747 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: ' 'Morph' asMorph openInworld' creates a Morph that can't be deleted using meta-click menu http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3747 I checked in 1.2 and 1.3 and can delete the morph in both cases without a problem.

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] the glamorous toolkit project

by Esteban Lorenzano

wow.... GTInspector is really great :) gamorous tools are becoming very interesting... keep going that way! I do believe in the near future GT can replace OB as our default IDE, if we continue improving like this :) cheers, Esteban El 13/03/2011, a las 10:34a.m., Marcus Denker escribiÃ³: > > On Mar 13, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> I think that this is a good idea. Having the Core tools better is definitely a good thing. >> > > One thing to keep in mind is that we need (ass soon as possible) to have *one* set > of tools... with OB we have seen that we have just not the manpower to in parallel > maintain two sets of tools (Core vs. Dev). > > The notion of "Core Tools" is broken. Whichever tools we do in the future need > to *replace* the old tools. > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Do you want to add the background picture to the image like we did with Pharo 1.1 ?

by Adrian Lienhard

On Mar 13, 2011, at 18:40 , Tudor Girba wrote: > I vote against using a picture as a background. +1 Adrian

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3706 in pharo: In OB: Text in comment pane of Browser uses syntax highlighting

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #18 on issue 3706 by guillerm...(a)gmail.com: In OB: Text in comment pane of Browser uses syntax highlighting http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3706 But the main problem is not that it is read only. The problem is that being read only, and you having no time to spend on it, we are all stuck. I respect your effort with ob, and I agree on what you say. But we are trying to get ob working since december too.

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Do we want this for Pharo 1.2 and futures?

by Miguel CobÃ¡

installScript definitely yes. changelog is useful if it is accurate and maintained else better avoid it. Packages I never found a reason for it to be in the zip. not very useful for newbies because they don't now what a package is based only in the name and for a experimented user, they can find the packages directly in the image. So, I think that they won't be missing. Cheers El sÃ¡b, 12-03-2011 a las 20:13 +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck escribiÃ³: > In Pharo 1.0 and 1.1 I used to include certain files in addition to > the .image and .changes. These files were: changelog.txt, > installScript.st and packages.txt > So...what do you think? are they (still) useful ? if true, then we > should add it to hudson. If not, we just ignore it. > > Thanks > > Mariano -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3706 in pharo: In OB: Text in comment pane of Browser uses syntax highlighting

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #17 on issue 3706 by renggli: In OB: Text in comment pane of Browser uses syntax highlighting http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3706 The read only access in my repository is intentional: For OmniBrowser it took me over 2 years to fix 200+ broken tests, to fix 5000+ trivial code critics issues, to move code into the right packages, to fix code in the metamodel that directly accessed the view, to fix code that violated basic architectural decisions, to add tests for behavior that nobody cared to write a test for, to remove unused code that was broken and nobody ever tried, etc. And exactly the same story repeated with the refactoring engine; and now again with OmniBrowser. Open repositories where nobody takes responsibility, where nobody reviews all code, where nobody spends a lot of time in exercising and improving the code base every day; and where nobody gives a clear direction of where to go do not work in my opinion (=> I don't want to use such code). I am very happy that PharoCore does not have a public code repository. It seems to work very well. Why would PharoDev take a different approach and have a public code repository?

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Do you want to add the background picture to the image like we did with Pharo 1.1 ?

by Tudor Girba

I vote against using a picture as a background. Doru On 13 Mar 2011, at 18:00, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > Yes. This is why I sent a picture I took my self of a public place. So, no pb with the licence since I signed the agreement :-) > But anyway, if it's too late, then we can put this on the todo for 1.3. > > BTW, I don't remember if the agreement covers all materials or only code. > > Noury > On 13 mars 2011, at 16:37, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > >> The problem is to use pictures with the suitable free licence ... i prefer to use the previous gray background and some colors. >> >> EnvoyÃ© de mon iPad >> >> Le 13 mars 2011 Ã 03:40, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >> >>> >>> On 13 mars 2011, at 07:59, Guillermo Polito wrote: >>> >>>> Forgot the faded one? Like the idea :) >>>> >>> Here it is. But, I prefer the other one with saturated colors. >>> >>> <tentativeBackgroundPharo1.2.jpeg> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Just got an idea. What about using a picture of some "physical" pharo. >>>> On every new version we can change the pharo. >>>> I'm not good at graphics but here is a sketch of the idea using a picture of mine (in small size). >>>> I put the original and the faded one. >>>> >>>> Noury >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12 mars 2011, at 23:39, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 12 March 2011 21:15, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> +1. >>>>>> I suggest to change the background for every new version. >>>>>> Also put the version number next the logo. >>>>>> >>>>> +1 now the question what background should be used by 1.2 release? >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12 mars 2011, at 20:16, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If I could decide, I would vote for it :) I like it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you agree, then it is very easy to add to hudson, just modify (marcus?) the Pharo.st used to build the images to do something like this: World backgroundImage: (ImageReadWriter formFromFileNamed: 'pharoBackground.png') layout: #scaled. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I attach here the picture used. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mariano >>>>>>> <pharoBackground.png> >>>>>> >>>>>> Noury Bouraqadi >>>>>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -6th National Conference on >>>>>> âControl Architecture of Robotsâ >>>>>> 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France >>>>>> http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ >>>>>> >>>>>> -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference >>>>>> 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK >>>>>> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 >>>>>> >>>>>> -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) >>>>>> http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ >>>>>> 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Noury Bouraqadi >>>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury >>>> -- >>>> -6th National Conference on >>>> âControl Architecture of Robotsâ >>>> 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France >>>> http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ >>>> >>>> -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference >>>> 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK >>>> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 >>>> >>>> -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) >>>> http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ >>>> 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Noury Bouraqadi >>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury >>> -- >>> -6th National Conference on >>> âControl Architecture of Robotsâ >>> 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France >>> http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ >>> >>> -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference >>> 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK >>> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 >>> >>> -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) >>> http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ >>> 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > Noury Bouraqadi > http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury > -- > -6th National Conference on > âControl Architecture of Robotsâ > 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France > http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ > > -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference > 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 > > -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) > http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ > 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France > > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Presenting is storytelling."

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Do you want to add the background picture to the image like we did with Pharo 1.1 ?

by Noury Bouraqadi

Yes. This is why I sent a picture I took my self of a public place. So, no pb with the licence since I signed the agreement :-) But anyway, if it's too late, then we can put this on the todo for 1.3. BTW, I don't remember if the agreement covers all materials or only code. Noury On 13 mars 2011, at 16:37, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > The problem is to use pictures with the suitable free licence ... i prefer to use the previous gray background and some colors. > > EnvoyÃ© de mon iPad > > Le 13 mars 2011 Ã 03:40, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > >> >> On 13 mars 2011, at 07:59, Guillermo Polito wrote: >> >>> Forgot the faded one? Like the idea :) >>> >> Here it is. But, I prefer the other one with saturated colors. >> >> <tentativeBackgroundPharo1.2.jpeg> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Just got an idea. What about using a picture of some "physical" pharo. >>> On every new version we can change the pharo. >>> I'm not good at graphics but here is a sketch of the idea using a picture of mine (in small size). >>> I put the original and the faded one. >>> >>> Noury >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12 mars 2011, at 23:39, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>> >>>> On 12 March 2011 21:15, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> +1. >>>>> I suggest to change the background for every new version. >>>>> Also put the version number next the logo. >>>>> >>>> +1 now the question what background should be used by 1.2 release? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12 mars 2011, at 20:16, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If I could decide, I would vote for it :) I like it. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you agree, then it is very easy to add to hudson, just modify (marcus?) the Pharo.st used to build the images to do something like this: World backgroundImage: (ImageReadWriter formFromFileNamed: 'pharoBackground.png') layout: #scaled. >>>>>> >>>>>> I attach here the picture used. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Mariano >>>>>> <pharoBackground.png> >>>>> >>>>> Noury Bouraqadi >>>>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury >>>>> -- >>>>> -6th National Conference on >>>>> âControl Architecture of Robotsâ >>>>> 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France >>>>> http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ >>>>> >>>>> -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference >>>>> 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK >>>>> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 >>>>> >>>>> -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) >>>>> http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ >>>>> 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>>> >>> >>> Noury Bouraqadi >>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury >>> -- >>> -6th National Conference on >>> âControl Architecture of Robotsâ >>> 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France >>> http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ >>> >>> -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference >>> 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK >>> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 >>> >>> -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) >>> http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ >>> 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Noury Bouraqadi >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury >> -- >> -6th National Conference on >> âControl Architecture of Robotsâ >> 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France >> http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ >> >> -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference >> 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 >> >> -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) >> http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ >> 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France >> >> >> >> > Noury Bouraqadi http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury -- -6th National Conference on âControl Architecture of Robotsâ 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France

March 13, 2011