September 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] How i can sorting category in the system browser

by Dario Trussardi

Hi, a stupid question: i work with: Pharo-1.0 Latest update: #10517 I'm interested to sorting the category in the system browser based on the relative name. In the browser i select the menu command reorganize category but don't do anything. Any idea ? Thank, Dario

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Morphic

by Hannes Hirzel

On 9/23/10, Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Hannes Hirzel wrote: > >>> >>> Why can't we have stuff from Sophie back to Squeak/Pharo? >>> - only the Sophie developers are familiar with the code and they are not >>> motivated enough to extract it >> >> Not necessarily their task..... :-) > > That's right, but tell me who else is up to the task? > >> Writing libraries and reusable components is a different project. >> >>> - the license is BSD, so the code can't be included in Pharo/Squeak >> >> I googled for >> BSD MIT license compatibility >> >> and found some interesting information >> >> see for example >> http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/floss-license-slide.html >> >> the paragraph about BSD in >> http://producingoss.com/en/license-choosing.html >> >> The license might be compatible depending on the "version" of the BSD >> license. And if not you could extract code and then ask the developers >> to release it as MIT. >> >> MIT and BSD are very close (or the same depending on the version) >> >> To summarize: The statement >> >> "the license is BSD, so the code can't be included in Pharo/Squeak" >> >> is too strong. There might be some problems including code, but they >> may be solved easily with by writing a few emails.... > > The license is the 3-clause BSD license, it contains the following > non-endorsement clause: > > "Neither the name of the University of Southern California, Los Angeles > nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote > products derived from this software without specific prior written > permission." I would say it means you cannot use University of Southern California, Los Angeles for advertising your software. Or maybe in addition the Sophie developers? > I wonder what can be done about this. Carve out the pieces we think are useful and ask the Sophie developers to re-license it as MIT. That would be on the safe side. HJH > > Levente > >> >> >> --Hannes >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Hackers wanted - Zinc HTTP Components

by Levente Uzonyi

On Fri, 24 Sep 2010, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Fellow Pharoers, > > HTTP is arguably the most important and most widely used networking protocol. It is paramount for any programming environment to have a good implementation of this protocol. Sadly, the current one in HTTPSocket is incomplete and of low quality. Furthermore, an HTTP implementation in Smalltalk should be clear enough so that others can understand it, learn from it and extend it. > > Zinc HTTP Components is an attempt at filling this gap. Started September 1st and currently under development, it is an open source, MIT licensed, open development Smalltalk framework to deal with the HTTP protocol. Please have a look at it, please help make this something we can be proud of. > > http://www.squeaksource.com/ZincHTTPComponents.html > > http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/index.html > > http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/getting-started.html > > Check out what works today (Status) and what still needs to be done (Todo). HTTP is fun, relatively easy and is something every programmer should understand, I hope that Zinc HTTP Components can make a difference here. What are the pros/cons compared to WebClient? Is it/will it be compatible with Squeak? What's the difference between Zinc-HTTP-New* and Zinc-HTTP-Old*? Levente > > Sven > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Hackers wanted - Zinc HTTP Components

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 24 Sep 2010, at 14:02, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Havent looked to deep or tested but why do you name it ZnClient instead > of ZnHTTPClient or HTTPClient? Maybe the project adds FTPClient and > others later... No, the project is called 'Zinc HTTP Components', it only deals with HTTP. Hence I chose simpler names, ZnRequest instead of ZnHTTPRequest, ZnHeaders instead of ZnHTTPHeaders, and thus ZnClient instead of ZnHTTPClient. Sven

Sept. 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Hackers wanted - Zinc HTTP Components

by Torsten Bergmann

Havent looked to deep or tested but why do you name it ZnClient instead of ZnHTTPClient or HTTPClient? Maybe the project adds FTPClient and others later... How does it compare to WebClient project from Andreas? Thx Torsten -- GMX DSL SOMMER-SPECIAL: Surf & Phone Flat 16.000 fÃ¼r nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Mailing List on MarkMail

by Geert Claes

Alberto Bacchelli wrote: > > You can reach the Pharo archive directly from this address, and compose > the queries you want: > http://pharo.markmail.org/ > Thanks Alberto. I was not aware of MarkMail and it does have some great aspects! I like the traffic bar chart and searches seem very fast. There does seem to be some info like: Who sent it, Any attachment and Type of message that distract from the actual search results. The next page where you see the posts is nice too. Anyhow, now the mailing list is available via Gmane, MarkMail and Nabble ....choice is good! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Mailing-List-on-MarkMail-tp2553133p2553349.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Mailing List on MarkMail

by Adrian Lienhard

I added the link to the website. Cheers, Adrian On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:09 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Alberto Bacchelli < > alberto.bacchelli(a)usi.ch> wrote: > >> On 9/24/10 10:02 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the initiative. >>> >>> which are the advantages over http://forum.world.st/Pharo-f1294836.html ? >>> >> >> First of all, unfortunately, I was not aware of the existence of such link. >> I see that it is in the http://pharo-project.org/community page, but I >> missed it. Shame on me. >> >> I use Markmail quite often, and I find it to have a very intuitive >> interface and to present results very quickly. I also like the interactive >> bar chart, and that you can refine your searches step-by-step in real time. >> Finally, I like how messages are displayed: it is very clean and simple. >> >> Anyway, the more the merrier: Now one can pick the preferred one among >> Nabble, Gmane, and Markmail! >> >> > Yes, excellent. We can ask Adrian to add it in > http://pharo-project.org/community too. > > Cheers > > mariano > > >> >> Ciao, >> Alberto >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Hackers wanted - Zinc HTTP Components

by laurent laffont

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be>wrote: > Fellow Pharoers, > > HTTP is arguably the most important and most widely used networking > protocol. It is paramount for any programming environment to have a good > implementation of this protocol. Sadly, the current one in HTTPSocket is > incomplete and of low quality. Furthermore, an HTTP implementation in > Smalltalk should be clear enough so that others can understand it, learn > from it and extend it. > > Zinc HTTP Components is an attempt at filling this gap. Started September > 1st and currently under development, it is an open source, MIT licensed, > open development Smalltalk framework to deal with the HTTP protocol. Please > have a look at it, please help make this something we can be proud of. > > http://www.squeaksource.com/ZincHTTPComponents.html > > http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/index.html > > > http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/getting-started.html > > Check out what works today (Status) and what still needs to be done (Todo). > HTTP is fun, relatively easy and is something every programmer should > understand, I hope that Zinc HTTP Components can make a difference here. > It looks great, and there's a clear documentation !!!! Thank you ! Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > Sven > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Hackers wanted - Zinc HTTP Components

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 24 Sep 2010, at 12:00, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Very cool. I love it. > > For those that quickly want to play with it, I prepared some builds: > > http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Zinc/ > > Lukas Thanks, Lukas. The Hudson build server is a great motivator to make sure all tests pass, to increase the number of tests and to improve the score on the style remarks (although I do wonder if it is possible to write code that is 'all green', the code critic is very harsh ;-) Sven

Sept. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Hackers wanted - Zinc HTTP Components

by Lukas Renggli

Very cool. I love it. For those that quickly want to play with it, I prepared some builds: http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Zinc/ Lukas On 24 September 2010 11:45, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be> wrote: > Fellow Pharoers, > > HTTP is arguably the most important and most widely used networking protocol. It is paramount for any programming environment to have a good implementation of this protocol. Sadly, the current one in HTTPSocket is incomplete and of low quality. Furthermore, an HTTP implementation in Smalltalk should be clear enough so that others can understand it, learn from it and extend it. > > Zinc HTTP Components is an attempt at filling this gap. Started September 1st and currently under development, it is an open source, MIT licensed, open development Smalltalk framework to deal with the HTTP protocol. Please have a look at it, please help make this something we can be proud of. > > Â Â Â Â http://www.squeaksource.com/ZincHTTPComponents.html > > Â Â Â Â http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/index.html > > Â Â Â Â http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/getting-started.html > > Check out what works today (Status) and what still needs to be done (Todo). HTTP is fun, relatively easy and is something every programmer should understand, I hope that Zinc HTTP Components can make a difference here. > > Sven > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Sept. 24, 2010