July 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down ....

by Johan Fabry

Related to that, access to European servers from Latin-America is slow (we need to go through the US in general). It would be cool for the Argentinians and us if there was a LA mirror (read-only). I have a small machine (mac osx) that could be used for that. Would it be possible to set up something like this? On 21 Jul 2010, at 16:12, Norbert Hartl wrote: > If there is an urgent desire to have another WebDAV share or the like than speak up. I could provide one. I think we can manage the load. Support could go from a WebDAV share to a complete virtual linux instance. > > Norbert > > On 21.07.2010, at 16:31, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> We will have a server based on web dav hosted at inria to support pharo but we have to wait until sep I would say. >> Then there is also the option to use a GemSource but we also have to sync with gemstone. >> >> On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Geert Claes wrote: >> >>> >>> I just noticed SqueakSource is down again. It looks like this is happening >>> more and more often now, what can be done? >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/SqueakSource-down-tp2296645p2296645.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

July 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down ....

by Norbert Hartl

If there is an urgent desire to have another WebDAV share or the like than speak up. I could provide one. I think we can manage the load. Support could go from a WebDAV share to a complete virtual linux instance. Norbert On 21.07.2010, at 16:31, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > We will have a server based on web dav hosted at inria to support pharo but we have to wait until sep I would say. > Then there is also the option to use a GemSource but we also have to sync with gemstone. > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Geert Claes wrote: > >> >> I just noticed SqueakSource is down again. It looks like this is happening >> more and more often now, what can be done? >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/SqueakSource-down-tp2296645p2296645.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange

by Max Leske

You shouldn't use the rc and beta builds. There's a lot of developement going on and you'll likely experience weird behaviour. My advice: youse the PBE-image with the 4.0.2 vm. You can get the image from here: Pharo By Example image If you still experience problems, don't hesitate to ask again. We don't know everything :) Max On 21.07.2010, at 21:59, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: > Hi Max, > > I'm using Pharo.exe version 4.0.2 from 12th April 2010, together with > the said 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 PharoDev image and PharoV10.sources. > > I've just noticed that the Inspect shortcut doesn't seem to work. I > can execute do it with ctrl+d, print it with ctrl+p and explore using > ctrl+shift+i, however plain ctrl+i for inspect is not working. When I > select it from the context menu, it's fine. > > Stanislav Paskalev > > > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Stanislav >> >> What image and vm version are you using? >> >> Max >> >> >> On 21.07.2010, at 21:47, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the >>> Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript >>> show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown >>> in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from >>> the workspace it self. >>> >>> I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ? >>> >>> -- >>> And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really >>> polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to >>> Smalltalk like me :) >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Stanislav Paskalev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello repository types

by Norbert Hartl

On 21.07.2010, at 16:30, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > in the collabook. > If there are further demands about usage scenarios or config changes I can help. Otherwise I would be glad if you add it (needless to say but...) Norbert > Stef > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:19 AM, Geert Claes wrote: > >> >> >> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>> You can just create a http repository for it. I did it once and described >>> it here: >>> >>> http://selfish.org/blog/public%20monticello%20repository >>> >> >> I reckon that could be added to the PBE(2) or CollaborActive book >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Monticello-repository-types-tp2295053p2296644.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Stan First welcome. I noticed that too and I think that this is left over of a trace for trying to catch a bug related to shortcut. We should spot it and remove it. Stef On Jul 21, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the > Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript > show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown > in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from > the workspace it self. > > I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ? > > -- > And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really > polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to > Smalltalk like me :) > > Best regards, > Stanislav Paskalev > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Is Object>>name important?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ok thanks for all these encouragements. Now if you have some free (ok less busy) cycles, any step in that direction is welcome. Stef On Jul 21, 2010, at 9:57 PM, Benoit St-Jean wrote: > How about : > > become: nil > > :) > > ----------------- > Benoit St-Jean > A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. > (Albert Einstein) > > > > > From: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:56:28 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Is Object>>name important? > > Zap, kill, obliterate, destroy, etc., simultaneously :) > > > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Hernan Wilkinson > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:46 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Is Object>>name important? > > the same happens to me all the time... so I do as if it does not exist :-), I just override it... I agree it should not be Object's protocol. > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:08 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > ideally I would love to get rid of it and externalName and friends.... now > there are probably deep reasons for now. > > Stef > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > Time to time, I need to create a #name method on my class. But I found a bit ugly to do an override. > > Is Object>>name that important? > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > Turn down-time into play-time with Messenger games Play Now! _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange

by Stanislav Paskalev

Hi Max, I'm using Pharo.exe version 4.0.2 from 12th April 2010, together with the said 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 PharoDev image and PharoV10.sources. I've just noticed that the Inspect shortcut doesn't seem to work. I can execute do it with ctrl+d, print it with ctrl+p and explore using ctrl+shift+i, however plain ctrl+i for inspect is not working. When I select it from the context menu, it's fine. Stanislav Paskalev On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Stanislav > > What image and vm version are you using? > > Max > > > On 21.07.2010, at 21:47, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the >> Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript >> show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown >> in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from >> the workspace it self. >> >> I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ? >> >> -- >> And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really >> polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to >> Smalltalk like me :) >> >> Best regards, >> Stanislav Paskalev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Is Object>>name important?

by Benoit St-Jean

How about : become: nil :) ----------------- Benoit St-Jean A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein) From: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:56:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Is Object>>name important? Zap, kill, obliterate, destroy, etc., simultaneously :) From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Hernan Wilkinson Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:46 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Is Object>>name important? the same happens to me all the time... so I do as if it does not exist :-), I just override it... I agree it should not be Object's protocol. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:08 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: ideally I would love to get rid of it and externalName and friends.... now there are probably deep reasons for now. Stef On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > Time to time, I need to create a #name method on my class. But I found a bit ugly to do an override. > Is Object>>name that important? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _________________________________________________________________ Look 'em in the eye: FREE Messenger video chat http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734386

July 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Is Object>>name important?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Zap, kill, obliterate, destroy, etc., simultaneously :) ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Hernan Wilkinson Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:46 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Is Object>>name important? the same happens to me all the time... so I do as if it does not exist :-), I just override it... I agree it should not be Object's protocol. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:08 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr<mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote: ideally I would love to get rid of it and externalName and friends.... now there are probably deep reasons for now. Stef On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > Time to time, I need to create a #name method on my class. But I found a bit ugly to do an override. > Is Object>>name that important? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange

by Max Leske

Hi Stanislav What image and vm version are you using? Max On 21.07.2010, at 21:47, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the > Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript > show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown > in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from > the workspace it self. > > I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ? > > -- > And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really > polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to > Smalltalk like me :) > > Best regards, > Stanislav Paskalev > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 21, 2010