June 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] VM - Internet Settings?

by Geert Claes

Did a quick Google and it looks like the Chromium project has put quite some thought into it :) On Chrome, "chrome://net-internals/proxyservice.config" gives the OS proxy configuration. On windows they use WinINet (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa383630(VS.85).aspx) functions. More info: http://dev.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/proxy-settings-fallback -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/VM-Internet-Settings-tp2257076p2257393.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] VM - Internet Settings?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

I have not taken this leap yet, but I have been assuming I would use os process to run ifconfig (ipconfig when forced<g>) and parse the output. Please feel free to beat me to it :) ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Geert Claes [geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:48 AM To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] VM - Internet Settings? Bouraqadi Noury wrote: > > I'm rather strongly for moving things the other way around (from VM to the > image)! > I agree. Network settings are now defined in the OS and need to be set again in the Image. When I suggested moving the network settings to the VM I was thinking along the lines of how web browsers manage their connection to the Internet. Web browsers seem to either link directly to the OS network settings (IE and Chrome) or extract the settings from the OS (Firefox and Opera). Bouraqadi Noury wrote: > > Retrieving network setting from the OS (an not from a preference file) is > typically the kind of thing that I'd like to have. > Absolutely, I'd rather not duplicate the network settings in the Image but have the system use the OS's network settings so the same Image can be used on machines with different network settings without the need to change these settings. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/VM-Internet-Settings-tp2257076p2257285.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] VM - Internet Settings?

by Geert Claes

Bouraqadi Noury wrote: > > I'm rather strongly for moving things the other way around (from VM to the > image)! > I agree. Network settings are now defined in the OS and need to be set again in the Image. When I suggested moving the network settings to the VM I was thinking along the lines of how web browsers manage their connection to the Internet. Web browsers seem to either link directly to the OS network settings (IE and Chrome) or extract the settings from the OS (Firefox and Opera). Bouraqadi Noury wrote: > > Retrieving network setting from the OS (an not from a preference file) is > typically the kind of thing that I'd like to have. > Absolutely, I'd rather not duplicate the network settings in the Image but have the system use the OS's network settings so the same Image can be used on machines with different network settings without the need to change these settings. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/VM-Internet-Settings-tp2257076p2257285.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] VM - Internet Settings?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

+1 ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Noury Bouraqadi [bouraqadi(a)gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:03 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] VM - Internet Settings? Hi Geert, I'm rather strongly for moving things the other way around (from VM to the image)! We'll have more control, and all in Smalltalk. Still, we need a better communication/integration between pharo and the hosting OS. Retrieving network setting from the OS (an not from a preference file) is typically the kind of thing that I'd like to have. Noury On 16 juin 2010, at 10:49, Geert Claes wrote: > > I would like to gauge how many Pharo-ers think that it would be great to have > the Network/Internet Settings as part of the VM rather than the Image. I > reckon the network setting are (just like display, sound, mouse and printer > settings) dependent on the computer and environment an image is running on > and not necessarily the image itself. > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/VM-Internet-Settings-tp2257076p2257076.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] VM - Internet Settings?

by Noury Bouraqadi

Hi Geert, I'm rather strongly for moving things the other way around (from VM to the image)! We'll have more control, and all in Smalltalk. Still, we need a better communication/integration between pharo and the hosting OS. Retrieving network setting from the OS (an not from a preference file) is typically the kind of thing that I'd like to have. Noury On 16 juin 2010, at 10:49, Geert Claes wrote: > > I would like to gauge how many Pharo-ers think that it would be great to have > the Network/Internet Settings as part of the VM rather than the Image. I > reckon the network setting are (just like display, sound, mouse and printer > settings) dependent on the computer and environment an image is running on > and not necessarily the image itself. > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/VM-Internet-Settings-tp2257076p2257076.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 16, 2010

[Pharo-project] ISSUE 2557 : NewTextMorph Refactorings and Tests

by Fernando olivero

SLICE-Issue-2557-NewTextMorphRefactorings-FernandoOlivero.11 I've published to the inbox several major refactoring s to NewTextMorph and CodeMorph. Added a bunch of tests too. The basic idea behind CodeMorph is that an instance of codeMorph holds a target and displays a certain aspect of it. For example the first example displays the method source and the second, only the selectorWithArguments, of the same method. morph := CodeMorph new. morph target: ( CodeMorph >> #styler: ). morph beCode. self assert: morph text asString = 'styler: aStyler styler := aStyler ' . morph beSelectorWithArguments. self assert: morph text asString = 'styler: aStyler'. Lukas, i think now we would be able to easily provide a single line editor for OB, when performing renaming or other selector/arguments or class name refactorings. If you are interested let me now and we can code them together. ( take a look at NewTextMorphTest>>testSelectorWithArguments ). Fernando

June 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

THANKS!!!! ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Adrien BARREAU [abarreau.dev(a)live.fr] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:45 AM To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen Hello, I published a new version of ConfigurationOfCitezen. All Citezen can be loaded by evaluating: ConfigurationOfCitezen load. Citezen without Seaside, Magritte and Pier, evaluate: ConfigurationOfCitezen loadNoWeb. Adrien. > From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:38:05 +0200 > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen > > > > > Hello all, > > > > Maybe I am simply getting confused by reading code from an "old" image, but I am trying to install Citezen. As I read the configuration, it was written in terms of Seaside 2.8, but it looks like 3.0 is being installed. Any ideas? > > > I think that conifguration OfCitezen load lastest dev (as mention in the class comment) > load seaside30 > > > > > I am open to thinking about Seaside 3, but my packages will fail to load due to the configuration changes. So far, all I have found is that I need to "change to the new system" but not much more than that. Perhaps the answer is to comment out the offending #initialize code, load everything, and then worry about how to get them registered. As slick as it is to be able to use Seaside to configure my Seaside apps, I do not want to trust myself on that front; I want them to be secured from the beginning, and temporarily re-configured for development as needed, and then programmatically switched back to secure-or-nothing. > > > > Semi-rhetorical question: should Citezen be loading Seaside? Could/should there be a Citezen-base or something that just reads BibTeX, and then other things that do all of the web-enabled work? All I do with it is parse entries, for which is very valuable. > > indeed we could have a citezen base and a citezen for web > > Damien can reply to you when he reappear from his teaching duties :) > not sure that this is not 8 h per day this week > > Setf > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ________________________________ Vous voulez protÃ©ger votre vie privÃ©e ? La solution avec Internet Explorer 8<http://clk.atdmt.com/FRM/go/232102477/direct/01/>

June 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Pushed Cocoa Macintosh VM Squeak 64-32 5.7b1

by Fernando olivero

Hi John, good work! I've been trying the image, i'll concentrate on the drawing while i'm working on my Gaucho system. Bug: when the hand is dragging a submorph sometimes produces a "in place" white rectangle instead of the morph being dragged. It's somehow a flicker. Really not that important, but just pointing it out. A minor observation, when the image starts up a snapshot of the last Quartz display buffer is displayed? Fernando On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:19 AM, John M McIntosh wrote: > Squeak 64-32 5.7b1.app.zip > > Follow the macintosh link from http://www.squeakvm.org/index.html > > This VM is built using the current (June 15th, 2010 version of VMMaker. > This VM is setup to run in 32bit mode with a 32bit image. > This VM uses the same plugins (excluding the 32/64bit FT2Plugin) as the 4.2.5b1 VM. > > I would suggest people take it for a spin, observe menu handling, drawing, sockets, file i/o, drag and drop, cmd line interface & sound. > I'd like to move away from the 4.x.x VM to 5.x.x as we move towards getting things running on the iPad. > So your help is needed to shake out the bugs. > > I've set the get Info to say to launch in 32bit Mode. This lets us use the existing plugins. > > If you really want to flip to 64bit execution mode you can uncheck the box. You will get a dialog at startup, and only the FT2Plugin is certified to work in 64bit mode. Things will run slower but maybe you'll think it's faster... > > Features: > On resize we mangle the window bits (oh well). No doubt some more reading is required. > We don't support 8bit video mode, oh likely only 32bit works. > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > > > <smime.p7s><ATT00001..txt>

June 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] VM - Internet Settings?

by Geert Claes

By the way, could someone help me how to set my Image to "Use automatic configuration script" URL, something like "http://someproxy.company.com:8080/array.dll?Get.Routing.Script"? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/VM-Internet-Settings-tp2257076p2257147.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] VM - Internet Settings?

by Geert Claes

laurent laffont wrote: > > Here's the trick to set preferences for all images: > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/TipsAndTricks/PharoRC > To connect to the Internet will be the same on the same machine for all Images, so it would be nice if the network settings should actually be derived from the OS, like most web browsers do. I can see that a working repository could fall more or less in the same category. Name, font and background is probably more an Image rather than an environment or VM thing though. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/VM-Internet-Settings-tp2257076p2257142.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 16, 2010