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October 2010
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Re: [Pharo-project] TextLint questions and feedback
by Fabrizio Perin
Hi all,
we did some modifications to the TextLint interface to address some of your
requests:
- now the wizard panel to select the file is bigger and resizable.
- The selection of the style is embedded into the result panel below the
file list
Cheers,
Fabrizio
2010/10/1 Jorge Ressia <jorge.ressia(a)gmail.com>
> Hi,
>
> We did a change in the way the files are opened.
> We could not reproduce the same issue but we could manage to reproduce
> other encoding issues.
> So, please try your file again and let us know.
>
> Cheers,
>
> 2010/9/30 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck
> > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry, I forgot another bug. A piece of my latex is like this:
> >>
> >> \authorinfo{
> >> Mariano Martinez Peck\affINRIA\affEMD \and
> >> Noury Bouraqadi\affEMD \and
> >> Marcus Denker\affINRIA \and
> >> St\'ephane Ducasse\affINRIA \and
> >> Luc Fabresse\affEMD
> >> }{
> >> $^1$RMoD Project-Team, Inria Lille--Nord Europe / Universit\'e Lille
> 1
> >> \\
> >> $^2$Universit\'e Lille Nord de France, Ecole des Mines de Douai
> >> }{marianopeck(a)gmail.com,
> >> \{stephane.ducasse,marcus.denker\}(a)inria.fr
> ,\\\{noury.bouraqadi,luc.fabresse\}(a)mines-douai.fr}
> >> \maketitle
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't know why...but once I saved the file, the image "frezzed" for a
> >> long time, and then, if finished and that part was replaced by this:
> >>
> >>
> >> \authorinfo{
> >> Mariano Martinez Peck\affINRIA\affEMD \and
> >> Noury Bouraqadi\affEMD \and
> >> Marcus Denker\affINRIA \and
> >> St\'ephane Ducasse\affINRIA \and
> >> Luc Fabresse\affEMD
> >> }{
> >> $^1$RMoD Project-Team, Inria Lille--Nord Europe /
> >>
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> >> de Lille 1 \\
> >> $^2$Universit\'e Lille Nord de France, Ecole des Mines de Douai
> >> }{marianopeck(a)gmail.com,
> >> \{stephane.ducasse,marcus.denker\}(a)inria.fr
> ,\\\{noury.bouraqadi,luc.fabresse\}(a)mines-douai.fr}
> >> \maketitle
> >>
> >
> > Hi. TextLint is being used now even for non-smalltalkers :)
> > Here my coworker is using it for his papers. THe problem he had, is the
> same
> > as mine. Without trying to do it, we put accents characters like é or è
> or
> > things like that in the TextLint pane. I don't know why but TextLint
> starts
> > to loop and writes all those characters (for example Ãâì) a lot of
> times.
> > For example, the file of my friend, went to 5MB!!!
> >
> > I know this is not TextLint fault, and probably Pharo, but avoiding this
> > would be great.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Mariano
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> So...it seems something related to encoding...but no idea...
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> mariano
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck
> >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi. First, please let me know if this is the correct place to talk
> about
> >>> TextLint. I've just used for one paper I am writing and I have some
> >>> questions/feedback. I am using the one click image.
> >>>
> >>> 1) The "An Rule" could be a little more smart and detects commands. For
> >>> example, in my latex I have " an \emph{inner object}" and that was
> detected
> >>> by the rule, althought I shouldn't. So...detecting the slash and ignore
> what
> >>> it surrounded by {} would be nice for this rule.
> >>>
> >>> 2) When I edit the code inside TextLint and I save it, two bad things
> >>> happens:
> >>> 2.a) I lost focus of the text, as it moves when it finishing
> >>> saving. The line I edited goes to the end of the text area. It would be
> >>> great if nothing moves nor to loose focus when saving.
> >>> 2.b) sometimes (I cannot reproduce) the order of the rules
> >>> changes...and this is not good because I was going in order, one by
> one, and
> >>> suddenly they are re-ordered. Maybe you are using a Set for that? using
> a
> >>> simple OrderedCollection could help.
> >>>
> >>> 3) If you edit the text (and it differs in the amount of characters),
> and
> >>> DO NOT save it, the following color highlighting are moved. It seems
> you
> >>> keep the position in the file, and until it is saved, rules results are
> >>> pointing to "unupdated" file. Of course, when I save the file, they are
> >>> correct. I guess this is from a performance point of view, but maybe
> you
> >>> have a little hack to do and make it better.
> >>>
> >>> 4) The rule "no white space before punctuation mark" showed me things I
> >>> didn't understand. For example, it says this line there is a ","
> (comma) :
> >>>
> >>> \item[ Shared object ] In the case of the \emph{shared objects}, it
> is
> >>> almost the same as in the \emph{inner objects}. An .....
> >>>
> >>> 5) Rules comments clearer. For example, when you say "Avoid using a
> lot,
> >>> it weakens the sentence" It would be better to put "Avoid using "a
> lot", it
> >>> weakens the sentence"
> >>> or "Avoid using *a lot*, it weakens the sentence"
> >>> or something to clearly mark the words not to use. Because sometimes
> the
> >>> words are confused with the context. Or this one:
> >>>
> >>> "After an only words beginning with a vowel are allowed. "
> >>> should be "After "an" only words beginning with a vowel are allowed."
> >>>
> >>> 6) For the rules of long sentences/paragraph it would be nice to ignore
> >>> \fotenote{}
> >>>
> >>> 7) Maybe this link is of interest for you:
> >>>
> http://matt.might.net/articles/shell-scripts-for-passive-voice-weasel-words…
> >>>
> >>> Apart from all these things, the tool is very useful and I like it.
> >>>
> >>> thanks
> >>>
> >>> Mariano
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
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Oct. 20, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] Comment in Behavior >> allMethods is wrong ?
by Luc Fabresse
Yes, the comment does not match the implementation.
#Luc
2010/10/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>
> It says:
>
> Behavior >> allMethods
> "Return the collection of compiled method I am defining"
> "asArray is used to not bump into a bug when comparing compiled
> methods."
>
> ^ self allSelectors asArray collect: [ :s | self lookupSelector: s ]
>
>
> However...it answer not only the ones defined by itself, but also from
> superclasses. So...the comment is confusing for me. I am the only one ?
>
> cheers
>
> mariano
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Oct. 20, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] ExpectedFailures in SUnit
by Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Niko Schwarz
<niko.schwarz(a)googlemail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Currently, to mark a test as an expected failure, `expectedFailures`
> should be overwritten
> (
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3976596/how-to-mark-expected-failures-in…
> ).
> That's a bit tricky to figure out, so I added a comment to the method:
> SUnit-NikoSchwarz.114.
Did you open a ticket? otherwise will be forgoten and nobody will integrate
it.
Cheers
Mariano
> However, I think it's still a usability bug:
> marking something as an expectedFailure isn't visible inside the test.
>
> I think expectedFailures should look through the pragmas of its tests
> and return an array of all method names that contain the pragma
> <expectedFailure>.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niko
>
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Oct. 20, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] ExpectedFailures in SUnit
by Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Niko Schwarz
<niko.schwarz(a)googlemail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Currently, to mark a test as an expected failure, `expectedFailures`
> should be overwritten
> (
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3976596/how-to-mark-expected-failures-in…
> ).
> That's a bit tricky to figure out, so I added a comment to the method:
> SUnit-NikoSchwarz.114. However, I think it's still a usability bug:
> marking something as an expectedFailure isn't visible inside the test.
>
> I think expectedFailures should look through the pragmas of its tests
> and return an array of all method names that contain the pragma
> <expectedFailure>.
>
Yes, that's better. But in addition, sometimes we need conditions. For
example:
Smalltalk listPlugins contains: 'blahhh' ifFalse[ expectedFailures add:
'testBlah' ]
or whatever condition. Can you do that with pragmas?
the other problem is that we don't have expectedErrors as well. This is bad
and confusing.
cheers
mariano
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niko
>
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Oct. 20, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
by Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Pavel Krivanek
<pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> No, but I'll try...
>
>
If you are going to do that, you should see the Graig Latta work. I copy
paste an email from me and him:
----------
Hi Graig. First, let me apologize for sending you this private email. Please
tell me if it is correct.
I am quite interested in having a system similar to Spoon. Actually, I want
something more related to LOOM, but Spoon is also part of my "state of the
art" ;)
I saw that your visualizations are very very cool. I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwidGFkn4Q
and then I see this link: http://www.caida.org/tools/visualization/walrus/
and finally I see
http://netjam.org/spoon/objects.graph.gz
I am working with Pharo for the moment. I wanted to ask if do you think it
is possible to make your kind of visualizations for a PharoCore image. Do I
need a specific VM? what should I do/code in the image side? Any hints is
more than welcome.
regarding the objects.graph.gz, you autogenerated that from the smalltlak
image and then use it as input for walrus ?
Thank you very much in advance,
Mariano
-------------
Sorry but walrus says "Walrus is a standalone application and not an API. It
cannot be incorporated into other applications."
So...how could you do it? maybe because the graph are text files, you
checked them and then tried to autogenerate one from an smalltalk image?
thanks again.
----------
Hi Mariano!
Yes, I learned the Walrus file format, and generated Walrus files
from the Smalltalk virtual machine simulator. It's odd that you couldn't
load the objects.graph into Walrus... perhaps Walrus has changed in the
meantime?
Making these files from the simulator doesn't require any special
virtual machine. I believe I included the Walrus support in the last
Spoon release. Please let me know if you can't find it.
thanks for writing!
> -- Pavel
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Wow, this is really cool.
> >
> > Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz?
> >
> > Lukas
> >
> > On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the
> >> image content). You can see it here:
> >>
> >> http://goo.gl/nY2o
> >>
> >> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0
> >> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2
> >>
> >> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -- Pavel
> >>
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Oct. 20, 2010
[Pharo-project] Faster access for refactoring commands
by Martin Dias
Hi,
I really like to use refactoring commands in OmniBrowser, but I would like
to access them faster. I think that it would be nice to have:
- A shortcut that popups a menu with the refactor commands only.
- A unique shortcut for rename (which target is the current selection:
categories, class, method, class variable, instance variable, temporary)
What do you think about it?
Do you know if there is something like that already available to use?
Martin
Oct. 20, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
by Pavel Krivanek
No, but I'll try...
-- Pavel
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, this is really cool.
>
> Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz?
>
> Lukas
>
> On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the
>> image content). You can see it here:
>>
>> http://goo.gl/nY2o
>>
>> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0
>> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2
>>
>> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- Pavel
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr
>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>
>
>
>
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Oct. 20, 2010
[Pharo-project] ExpectedFailures in SUnit
by Niko Schwarz
Hi,
Currently, to mark a test as an expected failure, `expectedFailures`
should be overwritten
(http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3976596/how-to-mark-expected-failures-in…)
That's a bit tricky to figure out, so I added a comment to the method:
SUnit-NikoSchwarz.114. However, I think it's still a usability bug:
marking something as an expectedFailure isn't visible inside the test.
I think expectedFailures should look through the pragmas of its tests
and return an array of all method names that contain the pragma
<expectedFailure>.
Cheers,
Niko
--
http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz
twitter.com/nes1983
Tel: +41 076 235 8683
Oct. 20, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] Best way for embed a file on Smalltalk image method
by Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 20.10.2010 10:46, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
> On 20.10.2010 09:50, nullPointer wrote:
>> I use the same procedure than embed images, but I don´t understand
>> the great
>> difference of size. :|
> You're storing a ByteArray which stores 256bits per byte as a base64
> string, which stores 64bits per byte.
>
Wow, still early in the morning here... :)
Ofc ,for binary input, a byte in a ByteArray stores the full 8 bits per
input byte, while a byte represented in base64 string format stores 6
bits per input byte.
Which means 25% overhead compared to raw binary data.
Cheers,
Henry
Oct. 20, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] Best way for embed a file on Smalltalk image method
by Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 20.10.2010 09:50, nullPointer wrote:
> I use the same procedure than embed images, but I don´t understand the great
> difference of size. :|
You're storing a ByteArray which stores 256bits per byte as a base64
string, which stores 64bits per byte.
If you also cache it somewhere, you're basically using 5 times the size
of what you import, 4x for the literal base64 string, and 1x for the
cached byteArray itself.
For a smaller image size, you could just use the ByteArray itself, ie:
^#[10 44 56 43 ]
at the cost of potentially larger .changes and Monticello files.
The reason you're storing it as a base64 string in the first place, is
that smalltalks will automatically replace lfs with crs when you store a
method, so if your binary data happens to contain an lf byte, the raw
string for the binary data will not be the same if you copy/paste it
anywhere, modify it by hand and accept the changes, or store it to an MC
package, then load it.
The base64 encoding does not use those trouble characters, and thus the
things described above will work.
On 20.10.2010 09:50, nullPointer wrote:
> not is the same compress the value of association to zip, with #zipped method
> and for upset the file out of image uncompress the string? I don´t
> understand the use of pragmas.
Eliots suggestion of storing metadata for binary data in method tags is
a good one.
Not sure if his example, which seemed to indicate storing a string with
gzipped binary data, avoids the above mentioned issue though.
Cheers,
Henry
Oct. 20, 2010