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Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Michael Rueger

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > Hi Mariano, > > I use them in Mondrian. I haven't found a better way to draw splines > and arcs without these classes. You could use the Balloon Canvas or Rome API. Michael

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Alexandre Bergel

> In moose page it says:"the same version can also be loaded into a > Pharo Development image by executing the following code: > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'Moose'; > addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; > load. > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) > project version: '4.0-beta.4') load. " The squeaksource moose page says: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault Alexandre > > > > On Jan 19, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu >> > wrote: >> However, I am okay to have them in a separate package. >> >> >> Yes, I would really prefer this option is nobody discover that they >> are really needed in the core. I would like to hear other opinions, >> thus. >> >> BTW, you usually build your Moose images based in PharoCore or >> PharoDev? >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 19 Jan 2010, at 07:20, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >> > Maybe I even would like to remove the whole package 'ST80- >> > Paths'.....but, going step by step, I would remove Arc, Circle and >> > Spline. As far as I could see, they don't have more senders than >> > their own examples. And they are not even working. For example, Arc >> > and Circule shows the same. Evaluate: >> > >> > Arc example >> > Circle example >> > Spline example >> > >> > So, what do you think? We break everything if we do this? >> opinions? >> > >> > Maybe we can put them in PharoMorphicExtras :) >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Mariano >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> <ATT00001..txt> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Alexandre Bergel

> BTW, you usually build your Moose images based in PharoCore or > PharoDev? On PharoDev. But things may change if O2 remains outside the image. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Alexandre Bergel

>> I use them in Mondrian. I haven't found a better way to draw splines >> and arcs without these classes. >> > Bezier curves? Maybe. I haven't checked the formulas carefully. Maybe Splines are a bit different then bezier. Alexandre > >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> On 19 Jan 2010, at 07:20, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> Maybe I even would like to remove the whole package 'ST80- >>> Paths'.....but, going step by step, I would remove Arc, Circle and >>> Spline. As far as I could see, they don't have more senders than >>> their own examples. And they are not even working. For example, Arc >>> and Circule shows the same. Evaluate: >>> >>> Arc example >>> Circle example >>> Spline example >>> >>> So, what do you think? We break everything if we do this? opinions? >>> >>> Maybe we can put them in PharoMorphicExtras :) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Fernando olivero

In moose page it says: "the same version can also be loaded into a Pharo Development image by executing the following code: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Moose'; addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfMoose'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) project version: '4.0-beta.4') load. " On Jan 19, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > However, I am okay to have them in a separate package. > > > Yes, I would really prefer this option is nobody discover that they are really needed in the core. I would like to hear other opinions, thus. > > BTW, you usually build your Moose images based in PharoCore or PharoDev? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > Alexandre > > > On 19 Jan 2010, at 07:20, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Maybe I even would like to remove the whole package 'ST80- > > Paths'.....but, going step by step, I would remove Arc, Circle and > > Spline. As far as I could see, they don't have more senders than > > their own examples. And they are not even working. For example, Arc > > and Circule shows the same. Evaluate: > > > > Arc example > > Circle example > > Spline example > > > > So, what do you think? We break everything if we do this? opinions? > > > > Maybe we can put them in PharoMorphicExtras :) > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > <ATT00001..txt>

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project

by laurent laffont

We have discussed it before: http://n2.nabble.com/New-pharo-images-td4125021.html#a4125467 http://n2.nabble.com/Dev09-12-1-does-not-look-nice-on-Linux-td4132813.html Laurent On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, George Herolyants < george.herolyants(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2010/1/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > I'm getting crazy. You are saying to opposite to Laurent. I think 09.11.3 > > has the StrikeFonts, not TrueType. > Yes, it has by default, but I use TrueType. > > > Can you pleas try the Beta Dev image I prepared ? > > (that image has truetype) and let as know the results? > > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/25156/pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1… > > Ok. I'll try it. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project

by George Herolyants

2010/1/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > I'm getting crazy. You are saying to opposite to Laurent. I think 09.11.3 > has the StrikeFonts, not TrueType. Yes, it has by default, but I use TrueType. > Can you pleas try the Beta Dev image I prepared ? > (that image has truetype) and let as know the results? > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/25156/pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1… Ok. I'll try it.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:36 PM, George Herolyants < george.herolyants(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2010/1/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > > 2010/1/19 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > >> > >> Both works on my machine using Pharo 10.01.1 image, but fonts are ugly > >> with 0.15.2f Pharo vm > > > > Good. It means that both are closure enable but 0.15.2f Pharo vm has not > > compiled the TrueType plugin, thus, Dev images will look ugly. > > > > I would remove this link from website if the other one is working ok. > > No, no, please!!! I thought this vm (0.15.2f) contains FreeType plugin > (is that what you meant by TrueType plugin) and standard unix vm > doesn't. I may be wrong here but I use it on Ubuntu 9.10 and it looks > very well (though I tried it with an elder image 09.11.3, I think). > > I'm getting crazy. You are saying to opposite to Laurent. I think 09.11.3 has the StrikeFonts, not TrueType. Can you pleas try the Beta Dev image I prepared ? (that image has truetype) and let as know the results? https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/25156/pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1… Thanks Mariano > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > However, I am okay to have them in a separate package. > > Yes, I would really prefer this option is nobody discover that they are really needed in the core. I would like to hear other opinions, thus. BTW, you usually build your Moose images based in PharoCore or PharoDev? Cheers Mariano > Alexandre > > > On 19 Jan 2010, at 07:20, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Maybe I even would like to remove the whole package 'ST80- > > Paths'.....but, going step by step, I would remove Arc, Circle and > > Spline. As far as I could see, they don't have more senders than > > their own examples. And they are not even working. For example, Arc > > and Circule shows the same. Evaluate: > > > > Arc example > > Circle example > > Spline example > > > > So, what do you think? We break everything if we do this? opinions? > > > > Maybe we can put them in PharoMorphicExtras :) > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project

by George Herolyants

2010/1/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > > 2010/1/19 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >> >> Both works on my machine using Pharo 10.01.1 image, but fonts are ugly >> withÂ 0.15.2f Pharo vm > > Good. It means that both are closure enable but 0.15.2f Pharo vmÂ has not > compiled the TrueType plugin, thus, Dev images will look ugly. > > I would remove this link from website if the other one is working ok. No, no, please!!! I thought this vm (0.15.2f) contains FreeType plugin (is that what you meant by TrueType plugin) and standard unix vm doesn't. I may be wrong here but I use it on Ubuntu 9.10 and it looks very well (though I tried it with an elder image 09.11.3, I think).

Jan. 19, 2010