May 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Error when trying to create a package

by Alexandre Bergel

I just tried and it works as expected. I fix the bug you mentioned on April 20, 2009. Which version of OB-Enhancements do you use? Cheers, Alexandre On 9 May 2009, at 21:17, Jim Menard wrote: > When every I try to create a package in the browser, I see an error. > Inside OBPackageOrClassNode>>shouldRefresh: the value of "ann event" > is nil, so the call to itemKind blows up. > > I believe I have the latest version of Pharo, with all updates as of a > day or two ago. This has been happening for a long time, though. > > Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? > > Jim > -- > Jim Menard, jimm(a)io.com, jim.menard(a)gmail.com > http://www.io.com/~jimm/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Error when trying to create a package

by Jim Menard

Alexandre, >> Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? > > This is a bug. I bumped in it already. > It was introduced when David and I worked on improving the speed of OB Thanks for the quick response. I'm not familiar enough with the internals of the browser code to offer a solution. I can see from travelling down the stack that the OBPackageBrowser object's changeEvent is nil, but that's all. Jim -- Jim Menard, jimm(a)io.com, jim.menard(a)gmail.com http://www.io.com/~jimm/

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Error when trying to create a package

by Alexandre Bergel

> Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? This is a bug. I bumped in it already. It was introduced when David and I worked on improving the speed of OB Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 9, 2009

[Pharo-project] Error when trying to create a package

by Jim Menard

When every I try to create a package in the browser, I see an error. Inside OBPackageOrClassNode>>shouldRefresh: the value of "ann event" is nil, so the call to itemKind blows up. I believe I have the latest version of Pharo, with all updates as of a day or two ago. This has been happening for a long time, though. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? Jim -- Jim Menard, jimm(a)io.com, jim.menard(a)gmail.com http://www.io.com/~jimm/

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Submitting changes to upstream repositories

by Damien Pollet

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:59, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Come on this is only possible if the changes you do don't break on > other code. > else people will start to complain that we are polluting the > repository with pharo specific version. Maybe, but I don't think so, provided it's clear the snapshots come from pharo. Sure, it would be easier if MC and Squeaksource supported branches, butâ¦ I'm just asking for some communication on what you fork, not for backporting everything to Squeak. I think at least the minimum would be to edit the project descriptions to indicate that they have a pharo branch and where to look for it. Another solution, for a small package like regex, would be to just mark the latest not-pharo version, and take ownership of the project. After all, the only non-pharo guy there is Avi. -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Submitting changes to upstream repositories

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On May 9, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > I agree with you Damien. We should not take this dangerous path. If > Pharo enhances a package picked from somewhere else, the enhancement > must be push back from where it come from. Come on this is only possible if the changes you do don't break on other code. else people will start to complain that we are polluting the repository with pharo specific version. So either you take the time and check that this is ok (have the rights to publish, and that the version does not break on Etoy, Squeak3.8, 3.9, 3.10, croquet) and we can publish the code there. Or we don't. Now there is the HUGE question of ressources. I think that pharo is making progress and this comes at a certain prices. as we say: on ne fait pas d'omelette sans cassser d'oeuf because this applies also to SUnit and others. Stef > > > Alexandre > > > On 9 May 2009, at 18:32, Damien Pollet wrote: > >> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:05, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> There are recent versions of VB-Regex in the images, but they are >>>> not >>>> at http://www.squeaksource.com/Regex >>> >>> which images? >> >> Recent Pharo-cores >> >>>> I will copy them but that's just on of those things that make >>>> people >>>> say Pharo is not playing nice with other forksâ¦ >>> >>> we consider Regex are part of the core of pharo so what would be the >>> solution? >> >> Depends what you mean by "part of the core". >> >> If it's "included by default", then submit the fixes back to the >> original project then copy the mcz in the pharo repository if it's >> practical. >> >> If it means "part of the fork", then you take responsibility for >> maintaining your versions, but I don't see the point since it's code >> that is quite platform-agnostic, and still it would be nice to notify >> the original project (i know, it's not possible with squeaksource). >> Maybe a feature request for SourceTalk, keeping track of branches >> across repositories. >> >> -- >> Damien Pollet >> type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Submitting changes to upstream repositories

by Alexandre Bergel

I agree with you Damien. We should not take this dangerous path. If Pharo enhances a package picked from somewhere else, the enhancement must be push back from where it come from. Alexandre On 9 May 2009, at 18:32, Damien Pollet wrote: > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:05, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> There are recent versions of VB-Regex in the images, but they are >>> not >>> at http://www.squeaksource.com/Regex >> >> which images? > > Recent Pharo-cores > >>> I will copy them but that's just on of those things that make people >>> say Pharo is not playing nice with other forksâ¦ >> >> we consider Regex are part of the core of pharo so what would be the >> solution? > > Depends what you mean by "part of the core". > > If it's "included by default", then submit the fixes back to the > original project then copy the mcz in the pharo repository if it's > practical. > > If it means "part of the fork", then you take responsibility for > maintaining your versions, but I don't see the point since it's code > that is quite platform-agnostic, and still it would be nice to notify > the original project (i know, it's not possible with squeaksource). > Maybe a feature request for SourceTalk, keeping track of branches > across repositories. > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Submitting changes to upstream repositories

by Damien Pollet

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:05, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> There are recent versions of VB-Regex in the images, but they are not >> at http://www.squeaksource.com/Regex > > which images? Recent Pharo-cores >> I will copy them but that's just on of those things that make people >> say Pharo is not playing nice with other forksâ¦ > > we consider Regex are part of the core of pharo so what would be the > solution? Depends what you mean by "part of the core". If it's "included by default", then submit the fixes back to the original project then copy the mcz in the pharo repository if it's practical. If it means "part of the fork", then you take responsibility for maintaining your versions, but I don't see the point since it's code that is quite platform-agnostic, and still it would be nice to notify the original project (i know, it's not possible with squeaksource). Maybe a feature request for SourceTalk, keeping track of branches across repositories. -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Mass upload to squeaksource ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

so far waiting for code :) Stef On May 9, 2009, at 5:18 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > Is there a simple way to upload many MC snapshots at once to a > SqueakSource project ? > > One thing would be to enable multiple selection for the copy command > in the MC browser, but since I suppose this is a simple HTML upload, > maybe someone has a simple script to do that already ? > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 9, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Submitting changes to upstream repositories

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi damien On May 9, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > Hi, > > There are recent versions of VB-Regex in the images, but they are not > at http://www.squeaksource.com/Regex which images? > I will copy them but that's just on of those things that make people > say Pharo is not playing nice with other forksâ¦ we consider Regex are part of the core of pharo so what would be the solution? > > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 9, 2009