January 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] renaming a method category

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi David, When I try to rename a method category, I get a DNU: OBMethodCategoryNode>>setName: I tried with loadOBAlpha Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] In the way of cleaning etoy

by John M McIntosh

I have an image that I ripped bookmorph out of, you want it? I ripped quite a few morphic classes out, plus removed quite a few "test" methods that lurk on the class side of various classes. BookMorph subclasses are StackMorph (which is easy to dispose of, and TabbedPalette which is harder because that's used by the the PreferenceBrower logic I dropped the Preference Browser logic so I didn't chase where PreferencePanel was used. Still there were a few methods that needed updating, perhaps thing to make this a bit easier is if someone could review usage if isKindOf: and change that to tests like isBookMorph, etc Also stuff test methods and Sunit tests into a seperate MC package that you can choose to unload if you want. On 30-Jan-09, at 12:59 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > I'm working on removing etoy. > > I'm stuck with some methods I checked the references to Player > restoreClassInstVars: is for example one of them. > > Now I would like to know what do you think of project. > I think that we should remove it as well as bookmorph but I would like > to know what do you think. -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================

Jan. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [MC] [ANN] Sourcetalk

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Andrea: I was playing for first time with sourcetalk and monticello2 and I have to questions: 1) In sourcetalk I think there is a little bug when adding projects. The first label of the form says "Create group". I think It should be "create project." Its very little, but I saw it hehehe. 2) I was following the user guide but have a problem in 3.3.1 "Adding a project". I don't see "add sourcetalk project" in the list. I only see "add directory repository", "add file repository" and "add memory repository". And that's all I see. Any idea what I did wrong ? Thanks! Mariano On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Stef: excellent! > > Lucas: Sorry, I didn't notice that clicking in the project let me browse > code. This is great !!! > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes, have a look at one of the projects. You can browse the code online. >> >> Lukas >> >> On 1/23/09, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Alexandre Bergel >> > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: >> > >> >> I guess that Stef emphasized the importance to not rely on previous >> >> versions. >> >> >> >> >> > Yes, Stef doesn't like it but I do. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 20 Jan 2009, at 01:14, Damien Pollet wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 09:54, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> >> > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> >> but why saving the complete package is a problem. >> >> >> I hate to have a piece of code and not be able to use because >> another >> >> >> part is on nother server and down or gone. >> >> > >> >> > He meant, when you work on one package, how to commit only part of >> the >> >> > changes in the image, and keep the rest of the changes for a later >> >> > commit. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > Thanks Damien ! That's exactly what I wanted to say. >> > >> > Another question, will sourcetalk let us browse code in our browser ? >> > Seaside has that component, hasn't it ? >> > >> > thanks! >> > >> > mariano >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Keith Hodges < >> >> keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk >> >> >>>> wrote: >> >> >>> Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >> >>>> Excelents both documents. I really like them! >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I am one of the SqueakDBX team and one reason I really hate >> >> >>> monticello >> >> >>>> is that when every time I want to save (commit) it commits full >> >> >>>> package. This is very annoying, >> >> >>> So switch it to diff mode. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I think there is something I don't know about MC. Suppose I have a >> >> >>> whole package. I modified some clases. But I don't want to commit >> >> >>> some of those changes. If I see diff mode, I can see the diffs, >> but, >> >> >>> If I commit, I commit all. Not only the changes I want. To do that, >> >> >>> I have to override the rest of the changes so that not to commit >> >> >>> them. And, If I do this, I loose those changes. So, I have to >> backup >> >> >>> those changes in a file, then commit, and recover the changes >> again. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I mean, I would like something like CVS or SVN where you can commit >> >> >>> what you want, no the whole package. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I don't know If I could express myself. Sorry for my English. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Keith >> >> >>> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> >>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >>> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> >>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Damien Pollet >> >> > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> -- >> >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >

Jan. 31, 2009

[Pharo-project] reordering Monticello browser buttons

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi all, I was wondering whether: 1- we need so many buttons in MC browser, and 2- the history and backport buttons may be shifted on the right. The only time I used these buttons was when I wrote the chapter on monticello. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 31, 2009

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10214

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

- More collection tests - SUnit coverage improved - allSelectorsAbove, allSelectorUntil:, allSuperclassesIncluding: - polymorphWidgets Next lukas #[], etoy removal, Stef

Jan. 31, 2009

[Pharo-project] .changes not found after a condenseChanges

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! After having done a "Smalltalk condenseChanges" changes, I got the following error: Cheers, alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Plugin organization

by David T. Lewis

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 02:05:46PM +0100, Michael Rueger wrote: m Hi all, > > What I would like to propose is that we organize all plugins in Pharo in > to a Plugin category. > So we would then have "Plugin-Curl", "Plugin-Locale" etc. Or > alternatively "Plugin-Network-Curl", "Plugin-System-Locale" etc. > > That would also allow to simply load all plugins into a VMMaker image by > using a package "Plugin". > > What do you guys think? +1 on a common naming convention for this. I would also like to suggest something to distinguish VM plugins from other kinds of "plugins". The reason is that the word "Plugin" is used to describe the web browser plugin, and maybe other things in the future. If we say "VmPlugin" or "VMConstruction-Plugin-* then the difference is clear. I checked an older Squeak image to remind myself of the original naming convention, which was: VMConstruction-Interpreter VMConstruction-Translation VMConstruction-Plugins VMConstruction-B3DSimulation VMConstruction-TestPlugins VMConstruction-Applescript Some older plugins that are maintained outside of the VMMaker package already use this package naming convention, hence: VMConstruction-Plugins-OSProcessPlugin VMConstruction-Plugins-XDisplayControlPlugin VMConstruction-Plugins-AioPlugin This still looks perfectly good to me, so how about just using "VMConstruction-Plugins-*" rather than "Plugins-*"? Michael Rueger proposed Plugin-* and Tests-*, so guess that this would be: VMConstruction-Plugins VMConstruction-Tests or is it "Tests-VMConstruction-Plugins" ?? I am not sure. (cc to vm-dev list) Dave

Jan. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for UI gripes

by Gary Chambers

On Vista with each theme I get: Watery2 5200 SoftSqueak 4651.6 StandardSqueak 4082.8 Vistary 5378.4 Watery 4979.6 StandardSqueak compares relatively favourably with Squeak 3.9. Nicer looking widgets do take more cpu of course ;-) With FreeType and Arial fonts: Watery2 6621.6 SoftSqueak 5871.4 StandardSqueak 5391.0 Vistary 7081.8 Watery 6521.8 Goes to show that you can't get something for nothing! Regards, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Call for UI gripes > on mac os 9.0 :) > > Stef > > On Jan 31, 2009, at 1:29 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> 2009/1/31 Michael Rueger <m.rueger(a)acm.org>: >>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On my machine I get: >>>> >>>> Squeak 3.9: 3800ms >>>> Pharo #084: 2950ms >>>> Pharo #213: 5200ms >>>> >>>> #084 is before Polymorph was added and #213 is the most recent >>>> version. >>>> >>>> BTW, with OB: 8590ms. >>> >>> ouch... >>> >>> any obvious hotspots? >>> >> >> i think its not very fair to compare OB with old browser. You need >> more cycles to draw icons for methods, show categories in tree, not in >> a simple list etc. etc. >> If you want a real 'ouch' then compare it with MVC browser :) >> >>> Michael >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues

by Gary Chambers

----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues > > > Thanks for the feedback > >> There are a couple of issues I stumbled across in Pharo and I thought >> of reporting them: >> >> - When loading Pier and Seaside there were some Warnings related to >> some instance variables that blocked the loading. This is a rather >> strange behavior, especially given that they are warnings. I would >> rather prefer to have the list of warnings presented to me at the end >> because like this I can have the code loading without me needing to >> pay attention. > > can you be more precise, what is the message? > >> - Apple+B does not work on methods anymore. > > Yes > Apple-N neither on method list > >> >> >> - Apple+W does not close the window. It seems that the outside window >> never gets the focus it needs to act on this shortcut. >> >> - Spawning a browser takes quite a long time. >> >> - Why is mouse swap preference not enabled by default? > > yes it should :) This is due to the keboard focus handling. I can add the Cmd+W to do that (currently Cmd+Delete will close the window with focus). > >> >> >> >> Otherwise, it looks really nice :) >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 31, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for UI gripes

by Gary Chambers

Load the Polymorph-TaskbarIcons package for different icons for (some) tools. I could add a taskbarTaskLabel method that could be used to return an abbreviated version of the window titles... Regards, Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francois Stephany" <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> To: <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Call for UI gripes > Hi Gary, > > Thanks for Polymorph, it does a very good job when showing Squeak/Pharo > to Smalltalk-advert people... > > A thing that i find clumsy with watery is the taskbar. There is no way > to distinguish Browsers/workspace/other windows. The original Squeak > uses different colors for that. Maybe the icon displayed in the bar > could tell the type of the window instead of the generic one currently > used. > > Another annoying thing is the title of OB browser: 'OB Package browser: > theClassCurrentlyBrowsed'. As the buttons in the taskbar are too small > to display the whole title, we end up with many 'OB Packag...' buttons. > I use a tiny patch to get rid of that (see the joined changeset). > > Cheers, > > Francois > > Gary Chambers a Ã©crit : >> Anything that anyone thinks could be improved? >> Happy to consider things... just would be nice to have a central point >> for >> moving forward with Polymorph (in particular) or other tools... >> >> There is a possibility of open-source release of the PackageListTool >> (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12018791@N06/2616669616/in/set-721576016593932…) >> if there is any interest. >> >> Regards, Gary. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 'From Pharo0.1 of 16 May 2008 [Latest update: #10211] on 30 January 2009 > at 11:41:18 pm'! > > !OBBrowser methodsFor: 'callbacks' stamp: 'francoisstephany 1/30/2009 > 23:40'! > labelString > | label | > label := self navigationPanel labelString. > ^label > ifNil: [self defaultLabel] > ifNotNil: [label printString ]! ! > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 31, 2009