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Re: [Pharo-project] Reintegration of StringSocket

by Michael Rueger

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > sure > can you publish it somewhere? > > Stef > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> StringSocket is a class part of Nebraska. You removed that class. >> However, Universe uses this class to publish packages. Is it possible >> to reintegrate this class, at least partially to support Universe? I would rather vote for rewrite Universes to not use. Special subclasses of Socket are plain evil ;-) Michael

June 14, 2008

[Pharo-project] Test message

by Pharo Smalltalk

Sorry for the spam. I'm trying to set up automatic notification to the mailing list of wiki and issue comments, but it seems I can't get forwarding to work.. Saludos, Victor Rodriguez.

June 14, 2008

RE: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Gary Chambers

Remembers the balloon from VisualSmalltalk :-) Like the blue one best, perhaps some lens flare though... Gary. > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr]On Behalf Of Adrian > Lienhard > Sent: 13 June 2008 5:53 PM > To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an > open-sourceSmalltalk > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos > > > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 17:51 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Pharo is not a paper lantern. > > It is a lighthouse showing the way to brave programmers during the > > tempest. > > > > Let us get rid of the balloon. Kill it. > > +1 > > Adrian > > > > > > > Stef > > > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >>> here are some proposals > >>> I like the blue one. But there have something. > >>> Please comment > >> > >> What's really important in a logo / icon is the silhouette and the > >> basic shapes. Here it's just a circle with some kind of striped band > >> in the middle (try shrinking the images to 1-2 cm to see what I > >> mean). > >> > >> Also why not incorporate the Smalltalk balloon ? > >> Pharo = lighthouse = light, plus balloon made me think of those: > >> > >> http://flickr.com/photos/giuseppevironda/1251748131/ > >> http://flickr.com/photos/giuseppevironda/1252610692/ > >> http://flickr.com/photos/dans180/408851463/ > >> > >> or what about something like the crappy attached sketch? > >> > >> -- > >> Damien Pollet > >> type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.polle > >> <Picture 1.png>_______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Adrian Lienhard

On Jun 13, 2008, at 17:51 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Pharo is not a paper lantern. > It is a lighthouse showing the way to brave programmers during the > tempest. > > Let us get rid of the balloon. Kill it. +1 Adrian > > > Stef > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> here are some proposals >>> I like the blue one. But there have something. >>> Please comment >> >> What's really important in a logo / icon is the silhouette and the >> basic shapes. Here it's just a circle with some kind of striped band >> in the middle (try shrinking the images to 1-2 cm to see what I >> mean). >> >> Also why not incorporate the Smalltalk balloon ? >> Pharo = lighthouse = light, plus balloon made me think of those: >> >> http://flickr.com/photos/giuseppevironda/1251748131/ >> http://flickr.com/photos/giuseppevironda/1252610692/ >> http://flickr.com/photos/dans180/408851463/ >> >> or what about something like the crappy attached sketch? >> >> -- >> Damien Pollet >> type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.polle >> <Picture 1.png>_______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] DNU rootsOfTheWorld

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes it is used by OB-Refactoring and other and the refactoring engine. May be it shoudl be packaged there. Stef On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > hm, I checked that there are no senders of this method before > removing it. > How can I reproduce it? i.e., what means "open an environment to > apply refactoring"? > > Is this the refactoring browser? If yes, then it might be a good > idea to move the method there if it is not used elsewhere. > > Adrian > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 13:56 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> So Adrian I have the impression that you remove too much :) >> >> Stef >> >> On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:51 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Once loaded the latest version and update >>> >>> When I open an environment to apply refactoring >>> I get doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr >>> To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>> Subject: [BUG]Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: >>> #rootsOfTheWorld >>> >>> here insert explanation of what you were doing, suspect changes >>> you've made and so forth. >>> >>> 13 June 2008 1:50:10 pm >>> >>> VM: Mac OS - a SmalltalkImage >>> Image: Pharo0.1 [latest update: #10037] >>> >>> SecurityManager state: >>> Restricted: false >>> FileAccess: true >>> SocketAccess: true >>> Working Dir /Users/ducasse/Desktop/Pharo/Pharo0.1-10036-2008-06-10 >>> Trusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus >>> Untrusted Dir /Users/ducasse/Library/Preferences/Squeak/Internet/ >>> My Squeak >>> >>> Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld >>> Receiver: Class >>> Arguments and temporary variables: >>> aMessage: rootsOfTheWorld >>> Receiver's instance variables: >>> superclass: ClassDescription >>> methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#addClassVarName:->a >>> CompiledMethod (608) #addIn...etc... >>> format: 156 >>> instanceVariables: #('subclasses' 'name' 'classPool' >>> 'sharedPools' 'environment...etc... >>> organization: ('accessing' basicCategory basicCategory: >>> basicLocalSelectors bas...etc... >>> subclasses: an Array(ObjectTracer class PseudoContext class >>> ProtoObject class) >>> name: #Class >>> classPool: a Dictionary() >>> sharedPools: nil >>> environment: a SystemDictionary(lots of globals) >>> category: #'Kernel-Classes' >>> traitComposition: TBehaviorCategorization >>> localSelectors: an IdentitySet(#classPool: #sharing: >>> #removeFromSystemUnlogged ...etc... >>> >>> BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: >>> Receiver: Smalltalk >>> Arguments and temporary variables: >>> aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: {[:each | (self >>> includesClass: eac...etc... >>> each: nil >>> Receiver's instance variables: >>> label: nil >>> searchStrings: nil >>> >>> BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: >>> Receiver: Smalltalk >>> Arguments and temporary variables: >>> aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: >>> {[:class | self sele...etc... >>> each: nil >>> Receiver's instance variables: >>> label: nil >>> searchStrings: nil >>> >>> BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: >>> Receiver: Smalltalk >>> Arguments and temporary variables: >>> aBlock: [] in OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment >>> {[:class :selector | selec...etc... >>> class: nil >>> sel: nil >>> Receiver's instance variables: >>> label: nil >>> searchStrings: nil >>> >>> >>> --- The full stack --- >>> Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld >>> BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: >>> BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: >>> BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>> OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment >>> ORSystemBrowser>>setMetaNode:node: >>> ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser >>> class)>>metaNode:root:selection:panels: >>> ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root:selection: >>> ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root: >>> ORSystemBrowser class(OREnvironmentBrowser class)>>on: >>> ORCmdSpawnEnvironment>>execute >>> ORCmdSpawnEnvironment(OBCommand)>>perform:orSendTo: >>> [] in MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: {[(selArgCount := selector >>> numArgs) = 0 ifTrue: [target perform: selector] ...]} >>> BlockContext>>ensure: >>> CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: >>> MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: >>> MenuItemMorph>>mouseUp: >>> MenuItemMorph>>handleMouseUp: >>> MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: >>> MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>handleEvent: >>> MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: >>> MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: >>> MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: >>> MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: >>> MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: >>> MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: >>> MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent: >>> MenuMorph>>handleFocusEvent: >>> [] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: {[ActiveHand := self. >>> ActiveEvent := anEvent. result := focusHolder han...]} >>> [] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: {[aBlock value]} >>> BlockContext>>on:do: >>> PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: >>> HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: >>> HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: >>> HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: >>> HandMorph>>handleEvent: >>> HandMorph>>processEvents >>> [] in WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: {[:h | ActiveHand := h. h >>> processEvents. ActiveHand := nil]} >>> Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do: >>> WorldState>>handsDo: >>> WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: >>> WorldState>>doOneCycleFor: >>> PasteUpMorph>>doOneCycle >>> [] in Project class>>spawnNewProcess {[[World doOneCycle. >>> Processor yield. false] whileFalse. nil]} >>> [] in BlockContext>>newProcess {[self value. Processor >>> terminateActive]} >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Pharo is not a paper lantern. It is a lighthouse showing the way to brave programmers during the tempest. Let us get rid of the balloon. Kill it. Stef On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> here are some proposals >> I like the blue one. But there have something. >> Please comment > > What's really important in a logo / icon is the silhouette and the > basic shapes. Here it's just a circle with some kind of striped band > in the middle (try shrinking the images to 1-2 cm to see what I mean). > > Also why not incorporate the Smalltalk balloon ? > Pharo = lighthouse = light, plus balloon made me think of those: > > http://flickr.com/photos/giuseppevironda/1251748131/ > http://flickr.com/photos/giuseppevironda/1252610692/ > http://flickr.com/photos/dans180/408851463/ > > or what about something like the crappy attached sketch? > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.polle > <Picture 1.png>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> here are some proposals >> I like the blue one. But there have something. >> Please comment > > What's really important in a logo / icon is the silhouette and the > basic shapes. Here it's just a circle with some kind of striped band > in the middle (try shrinking the images to 1-2 cm to see what I mean). > > Also why not incorporate the Smalltalk balloon ? > Pharo = lighthouse = light, plus balloon made me think of those: > > http://flickr.com/photos/giuseppevironda/1251748131/ > http://flickr.com/photos/giuseppevironda/1252610692/ > http://flickr.com/photos/dans180/408851463/ > > or what about something like the crappy attached sketch? > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.polle > <Picture 1.png>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] DNU rootsOfTheWorld

by Adrian Lienhard

hm, I checked that there are no senders of this method before removing it. How can I reproduce it? i.e., what means "open an environment to apply refactoring"? Is this the refactoring browser? If yes, then it might be a good idea to move the method there if it is not used elsewhere. Adrian On Jun 13, 2008, at 13:56 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > So Adrian I have the impression that you remove too much :) > > Stef > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:51 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Once loaded the latest version and update >> >> When I open an environment to apply refactoring >> I get doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr >> To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> Subject: [BUG]Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: >> #rootsOfTheWorld >> >> here insert explanation of what you were doing, suspect changes >> you've made and so forth. >> >> 13 June 2008 1:50:10 pm >> >> VM: Mac OS - a SmalltalkImage >> Image: Pharo0.1 [latest update: #10037] >> >> SecurityManager state: >> Restricted: false >> FileAccess: true >> SocketAccess: true >> Working Dir /Users/ducasse/Desktop/Pharo/Pharo0.1-10036-2008-06-10 >> Trusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus >> Untrusted Dir /Users/ducasse/Library/Preferences/Squeak/Internet/My >> Squeak >> >> Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld >> Receiver: Class >> Arguments and temporary variables: >> aMessage: rootsOfTheWorld >> Receiver's instance variables: >> superclass: ClassDescription >> methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#addClassVarName:->a >> CompiledMethod (608) #addIn...etc... >> format: 156 >> instanceVariables: #('subclasses' 'name' 'classPool' >> 'sharedPools' 'environment...etc... >> organization: ('accessing' basicCategory basicCategory: >> basicLocalSelectors bas...etc... >> subclasses: an Array(ObjectTracer class PseudoContext class >> ProtoObject class) >> name: #Class >> classPool: a Dictionary() >> sharedPools: nil >> environment: a SystemDictionary(lots of globals) >> category: #'Kernel-Classes' >> traitComposition: TBehaviorCategorization >> localSelectors: an IdentitySet(#classPool: #sharing: >> #removeFromSystemUnlogged ...etc... >> >> BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: >> Receiver: Smalltalk >> Arguments and temporary variables: >> aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: {[:each | (self >> includesClass: eac...etc... >> each: nil >> Receiver's instance variables: >> label: nil >> searchStrings: nil >> >> BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: >> Receiver: Smalltalk >> Arguments and temporary variables: >> aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: >> {[:class | self sele...etc... >> each: nil >> Receiver's instance variables: >> label: nil >> searchStrings: nil >> >> BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: >> Receiver: Smalltalk >> Arguments and temporary variables: >> aBlock: [] in OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment >> {[:class :selector | selec...etc... >> class: nil >> sel: nil >> Receiver's instance variables: >> label: nil >> searchStrings: nil >> >> >> --- The full stack --- >> Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld >> BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: >> BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: >> BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment >> ORSystemBrowser>>setMetaNode:node: >> ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser >> class)>>metaNode:root:selection:panels: >> ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root:selection: >> ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root: >> ORSystemBrowser class(OREnvironmentBrowser class)>>on: >> ORCmdSpawnEnvironment>>execute >> ORCmdSpawnEnvironment(OBCommand)>>perform:orSendTo: >> [] in MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: {[(selArgCount := selector >> numArgs) = 0 ifTrue: [target perform: selector] ...]} >> BlockContext>>ensure: >> CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: >> MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: >> MenuItemMorph>>mouseUp: >> MenuItemMorph>>handleMouseUp: >> MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: >> MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>handleEvent: >> MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: >> MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: >> MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: >> MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: >> MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: >> MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: >> MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent: >> MenuMorph>>handleFocusEvent: >> [] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: {[ActiveHand := self. >> ActiveEvent := anEvent. result := focusHolder han...]} >> [] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: {[aBlock value]} >> BlockContext>>on:do: >> PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: >> HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: >> HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: >> HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: >> HandMorph>>handleEvent: >> HandMorph>>processEvents >> [] in WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: {[:h | ActiveHand := h. h >> processEvents. ActiveHand := nil]} >> Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do: >> WorldState>>handsDo: >> WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: >> WorldState>>doOneCycleFor: >> PasteUpMorph>>doOneCycle >> [] in Project class>>spawnNewProcess {[[World doOneCycle. >> Processor yield. false] whileFalse. nil]} >> [] in BlockContext>>newProcess {[self value. Processor >> terminateActive]} >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Damien Pollet

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > here are some proposals > I like the blue one. But there have something. > Please comment What's really important in a logo / icon is the silhouette and the basic shapes. Here it's just a circle with some kind of striped band in the middle (try shrinking the images to 1-2 cm to see what I mean). Also why not incorporate the Smalltalk balloon ? Pharo = lighthouse = light, plus balloon made me think of those: http://flickr.com/photos/giuseppevironda/1251748131/ http://flickr.com/photos/giuseppevironda/1252610692/ http://flickr.com/photos/dans180/408851463/ or what about something like the crappy attached sketch? -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.polle

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Reintegration of StringSocket

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

sure can you publish it somewhere? Stef On Jun 13, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > Hi, > > StringSocket is a class part of Nebraska. You removed that class. > However, Universe uses this class to publish packages. Is it possible > to reintegrate this class, at least partially to support Universe? > > Bye > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 13, 2008