Updating lists.pharo.org: New server, Mailman3 and more

MD
Marcus Denker
Mon, Sep 14, 2020 3:42 PM

Hi,

We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ https://lists.pharo.org/)

-> New server, thus: new IP… 
-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2)
-> There will be a better Archive

I will do the change of the IP address today.

The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.

I will send another mail when it is done.

Marcus
Hi, We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>) -> New server, thus: new IP… -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive I will do the change of the IP address today. The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent. I will send another mail when it is done. Marcus
MD
Marcus Denker
Mon, Sep 14, 2020 5:11 PM

On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker marcus.denker@inria.fr wrote:

Hi,

We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ https://lists.pharo.org/)

-> New server, thus: new IP… 
-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2)
-> There will be a better Archive

I will do the change of the IP address today.

The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.

I will send another mail when it is done.

Marcus
Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org> Marcus > On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote: > > Hi, > > We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>) > > -> New server, thus: new IP… > -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) > -> There will be a better Archive > > > I will do the change of the IP address today. > > The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the > new archive, everything else should be transparent. > > I will send another mail when it is done. > > Marcus
MD
Marcus Denker
Mon, Sep 14, 2020 5:18 PM

So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).

But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker marcus.denker@inria.fr wrote:

Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Hi,

We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ https://lists.pharo.org/)

-> New server, thus: new IP… 
-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2)
-> There will be a better Archive

I will do the change of the IP address today.

The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.

I will send another mail when it is done.

Marcus
So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon). But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again. Marcus > On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote: > > Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org> > > Marcus > >> On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>) >> >> -> New server, thus: new IP… >> -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) >> -> There will be a better Archive >> >> >> I will do the change of the IP address today. >> >> The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the >> new archive, everything else should be transparent. >> >> I will send another mail when it is done. >> >> Marcus >
MD
Marcus Denker
Mon, Sep 14, 2020 5:54 PM

Migration is Complete!

If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.

https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker marcus.denker@inria.fr wrote:

So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).

But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Hi,

We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ https://lists.pharo.org/)

-> New server, thus: new IP… 
-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2)
-> There will be a better Archive

I will do the change of the IP address today.

The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.

I will send another mail when it is done.

Marcus
Migration is Complete! If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to. https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/> > On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote: > > So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users > will be soon). > > But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again. > > Marcus > >> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >> >> Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org> >> >> Marcus >> >>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>) >>> >>> -> New server, thus: new IP… >>> -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) >>> -> There will be a better Archive >>> >>> >>> I will do the change of the IP address today. >>> >>> The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the >>> new archive, everything else should be transparent. >>> >>> I will send another mail when it is done. >>> >>> Marcus >> >
MD
marcus.denker@inria.fr
Mon, Sep 14, 2020 6:00 PM

Migration is Complete!

Test reply from the Web interface.

> Migration is Complete! Test reply from the Web interface.
SD
Stéphane Ducasse
Tue, Sep 15, 2020 6:56 PM

marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. Apparently the archive is still private.

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker marcus.denker@inria.fr wrote:

Migration is Complete!

If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.

https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).

But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Hi,

We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ https://lists.pharo.org/)

-> New server, thus: new IP… 
-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2)
-> There will be a better Archive

I will do the change of the IP address today.

The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.

I will send another mail when it is done.

Marcus

Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. Apparently the archive is still private. > On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote: > > Migration is Complete! > > If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to. > > https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/> > > > >> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >> >> So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users >> will be soon). >> >> But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again. >> >> Marcus >> >>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>> >>> Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>) >>>> >>>> -> New server, thus: new IP… >>>> -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) >>>> -> There will be a better Archive >>>> >>>> >>>> I will do the change of the IP address today. >>>> >>>> The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the >>>> new archive, everything else should be transparent. >>>> >>>> I will send another mail when it is done. >>>> >>>> Marcus >>> >> > -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
MD
Marcus Denker
Wed, Sep 16, 2020 12:22 PM

Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now.

Marcus

On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:

marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. Apparently the archive is still private.

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Migration is Complete!

If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.

https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).

But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Hi,

We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ https://lists.pharo.org/)

-> New server, thus: new IP… 
-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2)
-> There will be a better Archive

I will do the change of the IP address today.

The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.

I will send another mail when it is done.

Marcus

Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/ / http://www.pharo.org http://www.pharo.org/ 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now. Marcus > On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: > > marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. > Apparently the archive is still private. > >> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >> >> Migration is Complete! >> >> If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to. >> >> https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/> >> >> >> >>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>> >>> So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users >>> will be soon). >>> >>> But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org> >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>) >>>>> >>>>> -> New server, thus: new IP… >>>>> -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) >>>>> -> There will be a better Archive >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I will do the change of the IP address today. >>>>> >>>>> The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the >>>>> new archive, everything else should be transparent. >>>>> >>>>> I will send another mail when it is done. >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>> >>> >> > > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Aurore Dalle > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France >
SD
Stéphane Ducasse
Thu, Sep 17, 2020 5:46 PM

Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now.

Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a dedicated email. I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly browsable on planet Smalltalk. Or I’m wrong.

S.

Marcus

On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:

marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. Apparently the archive is still private.

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Migration is Complete!

If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.

https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).

But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Hi,

We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ https://lists.pharo.org/)

-> New server, thus: new IP… 
-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2)
-> There will be a better Archive

I will do the change of the IP address today.

The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.

I will send another mail when it is done.

Marcus

Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/ / http://www.pharo.org http://www.pharo.org/ 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France


Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

> Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now. Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a dedicated email. I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly browsable on planet Smalltalk. Or I’m wrong. S. > > Marcus > >> On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote: >> >> marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. >> Apparently the archive is still private. >> >>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>> >>> Migration is Complete! >>> >>> If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to. >>> >>> https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>> >>>> So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users >>>> will be soon). >>>> >>>> But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again. >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org> >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>) >>>>>> >>>>>> -> New server, thus: new IP… >>>>>> -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) >>>>>> -> There will be a better Archive >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I will do the change of the IP address today. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the >>>>>> new archive, everything else should be transparent. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will send another mail when it is done. >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> Stéphane Ducasse >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> >> 03 59 35 87 52 >> Assistant: Aurore Dalle >> FAX 03 59 57 78 50 >> TEL 03 59 35 86 16 >> S. Ducasse - Inria >> 40, avenue Halley, >> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza >> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 >> France >> > -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
GC
Gabriel Cotelli
Thu, Sep 17, 2020 6:34 PM

forum.world.st doesn't disclose publicly people's emails. If you let people emails in the open they will be grabbed sooner or later by some spam bot. If the new mailing list interface can be configured to not show in plain sight the sender's email it's a good idea to do it.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 14:46 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:

Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now.

Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a dedicated email. I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly browsable on planet Smalltalk. Or I’m wrong.

S.

Marcus

On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:

marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. Apparently the archive is still private.

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker marcus.denker@inria.fr wrote:

Migration is Complete!

If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.

https://lists.pharo.org

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker marcus.denker@inria.fr wrote:

So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users will be soon).

But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker marcus.denker@inria.fr wrote:

Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker marcus.denker@inria.fr wrote:

Hi,

We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/)

-> New server, thus: new IP… -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) -> There will be a better Archive

I will do the change of the IP address today.

The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the new archive, everything else should be transparent.

I will send another mail when it is done.

Marcus


Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France


Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

forum.world.st doesn't disclose publicly people's emails. If you let people emails in the open they will be grabbed sooner or later by some spam bot. If the new mailing list interface can be configured to not show in plain sight the sender's email it's a good idea to do it. On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 14:46 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: > > Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to > private for now. > > > Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a > dedicated email. > I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly browsable on > planet Smalltalk. Or I’m wrong. > > S. > > > > Marcus > > On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> > wrote: > > marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. > Apparently the archive is still private. > > On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote: > > Migration is Complete! > > If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with > the email address that the lists are now sending emails to. > > https://lists.pharo.org > > > > On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote: > > So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still > syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users > will be soon). > > But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again. > > Marcus > > On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote: > > Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at > https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org > > Marcus > > On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote: > > Hi, > > We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/) > > -> New server, thus: new IP… > -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) > -> There will be a better Archive > > > I will do the change of the IP address today. > > The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old > server will not be in the > new archive, everything else should be transparent. > > I will send another mail when it is done. > > Marcus > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Aurore Dalle > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France > > > > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Aurore Dalle > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France > >
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Martin McClure
Thu, Sep 17, 2020 10:19 PM

Mailman does have an option to "obscure_addresses" in the web interface. I don't recall exactly how obscure it makes them; the documentation says "This should reduce the opportunity for email address harvesting by spammers, although it probably does not eliminate it."

Regards, -Martin

On 9/17/20 11:34 AM, Gabriel Cotelli wrote:

forum.world.st http://forum.world.st doesn't disclose publicly people's emails. If you let people emails in the open they will be grabbed sooner or later by some spam bot. If the new mailing list interface can be configured to not show in plain sight the sender's email it's a good idea to do it.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 14:46 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:

 Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set
 it to private for now.
 Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a
 dedicated email.
 I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly
 browsable on planet Smalltalk. Or I’m wrong.

 S.
 Marcus
 On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse
 <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>>
 wrote:

 marcus I tried and I could not see the archive.
 Apparently the archive is still private.
 On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr
 <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:

 Migration is Complete!

 If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new
 account with the email address that the lists are now sending
 emails to.

 https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>
 On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker
 <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:

 So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is
 still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users
 will be soon).

 But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.

 Marcus
 On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker
 <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:

 Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive
 is at
 https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org

 Marcus
 On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker
 <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:

 Hi,

 We are updating the mailinglists (everything
 https://lists.pharo.org/)

 -> New server, thus: new IP…
 -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2)
 -> There will be a better Archive


 I will do the change of the IP address today.

 The only thing that could happen is that mails send still
 via the old server will not be in the
 new archive, everything else should be transparent.

 I will send another mail when it is done.

 Marcus
 --------------------------------------------
 Stéphane Ducasse
 http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr
 <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org
 <http://www.pharo.org/>
 03 59 35 87 52
 Assistant: Aurore Dalle
 FAX 03 59 57 78 50
 TEL 03 59 35 86 16
 S. Ducasse - Inria
 40, avenue Halley,
 Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
 Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
 France
 --------------------------------------------
 Stéphane Ducasse
 http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
 03 59 35 87 52
 Assistant: Aurore Dalle
 FAX 03 59 57 78 50
 TEL 03 59 35 86 16
 S. Ducasse - Inria
 40, avenue Halley,
 Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
 Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
 France
Mailman does have an option to "obscure_addresses" in the web interface. I don't recall exactly *how* obscure it makes them; the documentation says "This should reduce the opportunity for email address harvesting by spammers, although it probably does not eliminate it." Regards, -Martin On 9/17/20 11:34 AM, Gabriel Cotelli wrote: > forum.world.st <http://forum.world.st> doesn't disclose publicly > people's emails. If you let people emails in the open they will be > grabbed sooner or later by some spam bot. > If the new mailing list interface can be configured to not show in > plain sight the sender's email it's a good idea to do it. > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 14:46 Stéphane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote: > > >> Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set >> it to private for now. > > Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a > dedicated email. > I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly > browsable on planet Smalltalk. Or I’m wrong. > > S. > > >> >> Marcus >> >>> On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse >>> <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. >>> Apparently the archive is still private. >>> >>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr >>>> <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Migration is Complete! >>>> >>>> If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new >>>> account with the email address that the lists are now sending >>>> emails to. >>>> >>>> https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker >>>>> <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is >>>>> still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users >>>>> will be soon). >>>>> >>>>> But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again. >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker >>>>>> <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive >>>>>> is at >>>>>> https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcus >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker >>>>>>> <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are updating the mailinglists (everything >>>>>>> https://lists.pharo.org/) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -> New server, thus: new IP… >>>>>>> -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) >>>>>>> -> There will be a better Archive >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will do the change of the IP address today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The only thing that could happen is that mails send still >>>>>>> via the old server will not be in the >>>>>>> new archive, everything else should be transparent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will send another mail when it is done. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> Stéphane Ducasse >>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr >>> <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org >>> <http://www.pharo.org/> >>> 03 59 35 87 52 >>> Assistant: Aurore Dalle >>> FAX 03 59 57 78 50 >>> TEL 03 59 35 86 16 >>> S. Ducasse - Inria >>> 40, avenue Halley, >>> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza >>> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 >>> France >>> >> > > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Aurore Dalle > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France >