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Updating lists.pharo.org: New server, Mailman3 and more

Marcus Denker

Mon, Sep 21, 2020 12:11 PM

Yes, we had that enabled with the old setup. The only thing is did was to change the @ into “ at “.

I checked the new mailman3 config and there is nothing to configure.. I will check with he provider if they have any suggestions.

Marcus

On 18 Sep 2020, at 00:19, Martin McClure martin@hand2mouse.com wrote:

Mailman does have an option to "obscure_addresses" in the web interface. I don't recall exactly how obscure it makes them; the documentation says "This should reduce the opportunity for email address harvesting by spammers, although it probably does not eliminate it."

Regards,
-Martin

On 9/17/20 11:34 AM, Gabriel Cotelli wrote:

forum.world.st http://forum.world.st/ doesn't disclose publicly people's emails. If you let people emails in the open they will be grabbed sooner or later by some spam bot.
If the new mailing list interface can be configured to not show in plain sight the sender's email it's a good idea to do it.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 14:46 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:

Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now.

Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a dedicated email.
I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly browsable on planet Smalltalk. Or I’m wrong.

Marcus

On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:

marcus I tried and I could not see the archive.
Apparently the archive is still private.

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Migration is Complete!

If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to.

https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/>

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users
will be soon).

But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again.

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org

Marcus

On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

Hi,

We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ https://lists.pharo.org/)

-> New server, thus: new IP… 
-> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2)
-> There will be a better Archive

I will do the change of the IP address today.

The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the
new archive, everything else should be transparent.

I will send another mail when it is done.

Marcus

Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/ / http://www.pharo.org http://www.pharo.org/
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France

Yes, we had that enabled with the old setup. The only thing is did was to change the @ into “ at “. I checked the new mailman3 config and there is nothing to configure.. I will check with he provider if they have any suggestions. Marcus > On 18 Sep 2020, at 00:19, Martin McClure <martin@hand2mouse.com> wrote: > > Mailman does have an option to "obscure_addresses" in the web interface. I don't recall exactly *how* obscure it makes them; the documentation says "This should reduce the opportunity for email address harvesting by spammers, although it probably does not eliminate it." > > Regards, > -Martin > > On 9/17/20 11:34 AM, Gabriel Cotelli wrote: >> forum.world.st <http://forum.world.st/> doesn't disclose publicly people's emails. If you let people emails in the open they will be grabbed sooner or later by some spam bot. >> If the new mailing list interface can be configured to not show in plain sight the sender's email it's a good idea to do it. >> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 14:46 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote: >> >>> Yes, I had a complaint/question that I need to check, I have set it to private for now. >> >> Well. may be people not in the mood to get in forums should have a dedicated email. >> I do not get it since our mailing-lists are already publicly browsable on planet Smalltalk. Or I’m wrong. >> >> S. >> >> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>>> On 15 Sep 2020, at 20:56, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>> >>>> marcus I tried and I could not see the archive. >>>> Apparently the archive is still private. >>>> >>>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:54, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Migration is Complete! >>>>> >>>>> If you want to login at the website, you need to create a new account with the email address that the lists are now sending emails to. >>>>> >>>>> https://lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:18, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So: sending emails should now be ok, but the web-interface is still syncing the archives (pharo-dev is there, pharo-users >>>>>> will be soon). >>>>>> >>>>>> But this means that everyone should be fine to send mails again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcus >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 19:11, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Testing if this is send via the new server… the new Archive is at https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org <https://lists.pharo.org/empathy/list/pharo-dev.lists.pharo.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 17:42, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We are updating the mailinglists (everything https://lists.pharo.org/ <https://lists.pharo.org/>) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -> New server, thus: new IP… >>>>>>>> -> the server will run Mailman3 (we used Mailman2) >>>>>>>> -> There will be a better Archive >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will do the change of the IP address today. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The only thing that could happen is that mails send still via the old server will not be in the >>>>>>>> new archive, everything else should be transparent. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will send another mail when it is done. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>> Stéphane Ducasse >>>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> >>>> 03 59 35 87 52 >>>> Assistant: Aurore Dalle >>>> FAX 03 59 57 78 50 >>>> TEL 03 59 35 86 16 >>>> S. Ducasse - Inria >>>> 40, avenue Halley, >>>> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza >>>> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 >>>> France >>>> >>> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> Stéphane Ducasse >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> >> 03 59 35 87 52 >> Assistant: Aurore Dalle >> FAX 03 59 57 78 50 >> TEL 03 59 35 86 16 >> S. Ducasse - Inria >> 40, avenue Halley, >> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza >> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 >> France >> >