We have hesitate between both on top and bottom for the "illar" and we are not realy decided yet so we will Take care of the comments ! For the wave it's because "Pillar" is a pillar for a pier which is above the sea that represents "seaside". I asked Damien Cassou for the story so we decided to add this symbols So the columns represents Pillar which support the pier. Hope i Light you up :) De : Cyril Ferlicot Envoy? : vendredi 18 mars 17:46 Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] [Pillar] Logo for Pillar ? : Any question about pharo is welcome Hi, Personally I do not like it. (Maybe I'm difficult :) ). I think that it would be better to have the "illar" at the bottom and not compressed in the middle. The second column look like an "y" and we read "Pillary". And why is there a wave under pillar? I think that things in a logo have to be symbolic and I do not find anything from the wave. Anyway, thank you to invest your time in pillar :) On Friday, 18 March 2016, Thibault ARLOING < thibault.arloing@hotmail.fr<mailto:thibault.arloing@hotmail.fr>> wrote: Hi, With a mate, we've worked on a logo for Pillar. We just want feedbacks on it. You can fin the logo join files. thanks :) Good afternoon, Thibault -- Cheers Cyril Ferlicot

A simple test for logos is: make it tiny (~20 pixels high = the favicon of a website) and it should still work (meaning it should be visible, legible, and recognizable). Even better if just a monochrome silhouette still works. Try that with the logos of major brands. On 18 March 2016 at 19:30, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:

I share the impressions of Cyril here. The relation between the "P" and the rest of the "illar" seems too much disproportionate. The second pillar doesn't help with readability and I know about Pharo things kind of "sea" related, but I would try to focus more on known pillars like [1] or [2] as a base for abstractions instead of the ones behind the piers. Logos are difficult and you're making a great work with the code, so is nice to that you're taking the feedback also with the art of Pillar.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colonne-p1040009.jpg [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Schema_Saeulenordnungen.jpg

Cheers,

Offray

On 18/03/16 11:43, Cyril Ferlicot wrote:

Hi,

Personally I do not like it. (Maybe I'm difficult :) ).

I think that it would be better to have the "illar" at the bottom and not compressed in the middle.

The second column look like an "y" and we read "Pillary".

And why is there a wave under pillar? I think that things in a logo have to be symbolic and I do not find anything from the wave.

Anyway, thank you to invest your time in pillar :)

On Friday, 18 March 2016, Thibault ARLOING < <thibault.arloing@hotmail.fr> thibault.arloing@hotmail.fr> wrote:

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Hi,

With a mate, we've worked on a logo for Pillar.

We just want feedbacks on it.

You can fin the logo join files.

thanks :)

Good afternoon,

Thibault

-- Cheers Cyril Ferlicot

The logo is in joined files (it's a svg) Thibault On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 2:10 AM -0700, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr<mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: how can I see it :) Stef Le 18/3/16 15:30, Thibault ARLOING a écrit : Hi, With a mate, we've worked on a logo for Pillar. We just want feedbacks on it. You can fin the logo join files. thanks :) Good afternoon, Thibault

Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> writes:

IMHO it’s too airy, to much free area. By the way, have you seen the previous logo? https://github.com/pillar-markup

I didn't know Pillar already had a logo :-). Thanks -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

I don't like it. It's more an illustration than an actual iso/logotype. Sorry. I didn't know there was a logo for Pillar, and though it's not fantastic, it is nice and continues with the style of a Pharo thing. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2016-03-21 11:05 GMT-03:00 Thibault ARLOING <thibault.arloing@hotmail.fr>:

oh I didn't see either that pillar had a logo. Moreover, he is better.

thanks

________________________________________ De : Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org> de la part de Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@inria.fr> Envoyé : lundi 21 mars 2016 14:19 À : Yuriy Tymchuk; Any question about pharo is welcome Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] [Pillar] Logo for Pillar

Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> writes:

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IMHO it’s too airy, to much free area. By the way, have you seen the previous logo? https://github.com/pillar-markup

I didn't know Pillar already had a logo :-). Thanks

-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

I think more about the ones below the pier :) http://www.routard.com/photos/los_angeles/18237-la_jetee_de_malibu.htm http://fr.dreamstime.com/photos-libres-de-droits-jetée-avec-le-restaurant-à-la-mer-baltique-allemagne-image14938888 but this is not good for a logo. the one that sustain the pier :) It was literally that in fact Le 22/3/16 16:00, Ben Coman a écrit :

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Thibault ARLOING <thibault.arloing@hotmail.fr> wrote:

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Hi,

With a mate, we've worked on a logo for Pillar.

We just want feedbacks on it. I like the style. But as a logo I think it is too thin.

When I think of pillar I think of http://tinyurl.com/pillar-images

And for a logo, something like... http://www.presentation-process.com/wp-content/uploads/powerpoint-pillar-tut...

Attached is a concept I knocked up. Its too detailed for a logo, and the font was plagiarized from http://tinyurl.com/hhc5a3d but may provide inspiration.

cheers -ben