Re: [Pharo-users] Phaas - anyone interested in setting up Pharo as a Service?
he, sorry for insist, but cloudfoundry already does that... and is opensource too :) at ESUG I seen James present it to deploy pharo images... so is viable :)
cheers, Esteban
I agree. And, I was really quite optimistic about cloud foundry when it first came out. I particularly like the way you can have a local micro cloud, and then transition to the hosted cloud. My only disappointment was that VMware are not - seemingly - going to offer gemstone as an option on cloudfoundry.com. Building on what Janko said, I think it is really important to join the cloud 'wave'. The question is how might we - collectively - make this happen? I am perfectly happy to go with cloud foundry, or open shift, or any other option if more knowledgeable people can show that X is the way to go. My only requirement is that I don't want to deal with anyone lower than pharo. All OS patches need to be done automagically by the hosting provider. I think cloudfoundry.com and open shift do that, but my understanding of cloudfoundry.org is that this is a 'roll it yourself' solution. Obviously, that would require someone to step up and do that for us. My preference would be for us to create a suitably configured module for one of e platforms, and we can then start getting experience with it. Stephane, is this something that the consortium might take a lead on? My company is happy to pay some of the costs, if this will help. Cheer Andy
andy thanks for this discussion. It would be good to raise a kind of consensus because this is an effort that the association could support. Stef On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Andy Burnett wrote:
he, sorry for insist, but cloudfoundry already does that... and is opensource too :) at ESUG I seen James present it to deploy pharo images... so is viable :)
cheers, Esteban
I agree. And, I was really quite optimistic about cloud foundry when it first came out. I particularly like the way you can have a local micro cloud, and then transition to the hosted cloud. My only disappointment was that VMware are not - seemingly - going to offer gemstone as an option on cloudfoundry.com. Building on what Janko said, I think it is really important to join the cloud 'wave'.
The question is how might we - collectively - make this happen? I am perfectly happy to go with cloud foundry, or open shift, or any other option if more knowledgeable people can show that X is the way to go. My only requirement is that I don't want to deal with anyone lower than pharo. All OS patches need to be done automagically by the hosting provider. I think cloudfoundry.com and open shift do that, but my understanding of cloudfoundry.org is that this is a 'roll it yourself' solution. Obviously, that would require someone to step up and do that for us. My preference would be for us to create a suitably configured module for one of e platforms, and we can then start getting experience with it. Stephane, is this something that the consortium might take a lead on? My company is happy to pay some of the costs, if this will help.
Cheer Andy
I have some ideas I would like to discuss off-line. Anyone interested should contact me at James.Foster@GemTalkSystems.com. James On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
andy
thanks for this discussion. It would be good to raise a kind of consensus because this is an effort that the association could support.
Stef
On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Andy Burnett wrote:
he, sorry for insist, but cloudfoundry already does that... and is opensource too :) at ESUG I seen James present it to deploy pharo images... so is viable :)
cheers, Esteban
I agree. And, I was really quite optimistic about cloud foundry when it first came out. I particularly like the way you can have a local micro cloud, and then transition to the hosted cloud. My only disappointment was that VMware are not - seemingly - going to offer gemstone as an option on cloudfoundry.com. Building on what Janko said, I think it is really important to join the cloud 'wave'.
The question is how might we - collectively - make this happen? I am perfectly happy to go with cloud foundry, or open shift, or any other option if more knowledgeable people can show that X is the way to go. My only requirement is that I don't want to deal with anyone lower than pharo. All OS patches need to be done automagically by the hosting provider. I think cloudfoundry.com and open shift do that, but my understanding of cloudfoundry.org is that this is a 'roll it yourself' solution. Obviously, that would require someone to step up and do that for us. My preference would be for us to create a suitably configured module for one of e platforms, and we can then start getting experience with it. Stephane, is this something that the consortium might take a lead on? My company is happy to pay some of the costs, if this will help.
Cheer Andy
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