Topic search - Learn programming with Smalltalk
Are there any good books or resources focused on *mainly* Learning Programming. (with Smalltalk would be a great bonus) I'm not looking for yet another class, syntax, other language compare etc... Just one of those books that's filled with real exercises and medium sized programs that you get to actually get to complete and experiment with. *I found these to be of great clarity:* *Smalltalk, Objects and Design by Chamond Liu* (I wish the account example were a little more detailed, and the initial slow pace would extend throughout the book, it tends to accelerate to fast) *Just ordered Discovering Smalltalk by Wilf LaLonde* (I have a feeling it would be on the same level) It would be great if you could recommend such a book, resource. PS. I feel i read a great deal on the subject but never actually completed a piece of software that's even remotely complete, the pieces just don't fit. There is a great deal of "wow" around how you're not supposed to know how the insides of an object works (encapsulation) but without extensive knowledge of the framework how could one create anything of use?! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Topic-search-Learn-programming-with-Smalltalk-tp469295... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
I remember learning a lot and having a lot of fun with the Laser Game tutorial <http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/>. I'm not sure it'll still work in newer Pharo/Squeak images though... In Squeak, maybe. In Pharo, I seriously doubt it :) 2013/6/12 basilmir <mircea@unom.ro>
Are there any good books or resources focused on *mainly* Learning Programming. (with Smalltalk would be a great bonus)
I'm not looking for yet another class, syntax, other language compare etc... Just one of those books that's filled with real exercises and medium sized programs that you get to actually get to complete and experiment with.
*I found these to be of great clarity:*
*Smalltalk, Objects and Design by Chamond Liu* (I wish the account example were a little more detailed, and the initial slow pace would extend throughout the book, it tends to accelerate to fast)
*Just ordered Discovering Smalltalk by Wilf LaLonde* (I have a feeling it would be on the same level)
It would be great if you could recommend such a book, resource.
PS. I feel i read a great deal on the subject but never actually completed a piece of software that's even remotely complete, the pieces just don't fit. There is a great deal of "wow" around how you're not supposed to know how the insides of an object works (encapsulation) but without extensive knowledge of the framework how could one create anything of use?!
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Topic-search-Learn-programming-with-Smalltalk-tp469295... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
-- Bernat Romagosa.
Yes this book is interesting. Now this is several time I contacted steven wessels to know if he is interested about a port to pharo and about the license but he never replied to me (while I tried to help him finding for jobs in the past). So I cannot interact with people not even replying to mails. too bad Stef On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com> wrote:
I remember learning a lot and having a lot of fun with the Laser Game tutorial. I'm not sure it'll still work in newer Pharo/Squeak images though... In Squeak, maybe. In Pharo, I seriously doubt it :)
2013/6/12 basilmir <mircea@unom.ro> Are there any good books or resources focused on *mainly* Learning Programming. (with Smalltalk would be a great bonus)
I'm not looking for yet another class, syntax, other language compare etc... Just one of those books that's filled with real exercises and medium sized programs that you get to actually get to complete and experiment with.
*I found these to be of great clarity:*
*Smalltalk, Objects and Design by Chamond Liu* (I wish the account example were a little more detailed, and the initial slow pace would extend throughout the book, it tends to accelerate to fast)
*Just ordered Discovering Smalltalk by Wilf LaLonde* (I have a feeling it would be on the same level)
It would be great if you could recommend such a book, resource.
PS. I feel i read a great deal on the subject but never actually completed a piece of software that's even remotely complete, the pieces just don't fit. There is a great deal of "wow" around how you're not supposed to know how the insides of an object works (encapsulation) but without extensive knowledge of the framework how could one create anything of use?!
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Topic-search-Learn-programming-with-Smalltalk-tp469295... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
-- Bernat Romagosa.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 02:46:23AM -0700, basilmir wrote:
*Smalltalk, Objects and Design by Chamond Liu*
One of the first Smalltalk books I read, before I had gotten hold of any implementation to play with. Very nice book!
but without extensive knowledge of the framework how could one create anything of use?!
I use The Design Patterns Smalltalk Companion, by Sherman Alpert, Kyle Brown and Bobby Woolf, for ideas. -- Pierce Ng http://samadhiweb.com/blog/
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