i was using voyage for these tests. Pablo Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 San Miguel de Tucumán Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm@gmail.com> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> CC: "stephan" <stephan@stack.nl>, "Torsten Bergmann" <astares@gmx.de>, hilaire@drgeo.eu Enviados: Martes, 18 de Agosto 2015 13:55:10 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: [ANN] Magma 1.5

On 18 Aug 2015, at 18:35, Pablo R. Digonzelli <pdigonzelli@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I checkesd. It is by far better approach to pharo and I like it very much. The problem i found was when i stress mongo, it lost some transactions (i.e 10000 rewrites lost about 80 or more don't remember exactly) . In bussiness apps i cannot take that risk.

targeting plain mongo or using voyage? I find hard to believe a production database as is mongo can have those problems so I would think more on voyage (and in that case, we can find a solution because this is obviously a bug :P) Esteban

Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 San Miguel de Tucumán Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714

----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm@gmail.com> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> CC: stephan@stack.nl, "Torsten Bergmann" <astares@gmx.de>, hilaire@drgeo.eu Enviados: Martes, 18 de Agosto 2015 12:45:05 Asunto: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Magma 1.5

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On 18 Aug 2015, at 17:20, Pablo R. Digonzelli <pdigonzelli@gmail.com> wrote:

I can colaborate. I do not know if i have the time and technical skills to do it alone, but for shure i can colaborate. I think magma will be a very interesting option for object persistence in pharo. I am currently working with garage and glorp and i suffers the innecesary complexity and other bad things thet persistence layer introduce in developing pharo apps.

have you checked voyage? (to work with a MongoDB)… it will avoid all the pain of using a relational database.

Esteban

ps: But yes, I do believe having magma would be cool too.

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Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 San Miguel de Tucumán Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714

----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Torsten Bergmann" <astares@gmx.de> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> CC: stephan@stack.nl, stepharo@free.fr, hilaire@drgeo.eu, "Pablo Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli@gmail.com> Enviados: Martes, 18 de Agosto 2015 10:26:44 Asunto: Fwd: [ANN] Magma 1.5

Stephan Eggermont wrote:

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It is possible, and it needs someone who can deal with low-level details. Magma has its own mailing list. Chris has repeatedly said he'd be willing to help out, but is not willing to be the Pharo port maintainer.

I asked Chris directly and you can find his answer here on the magma list:

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/magma/2015-August/001955.html

As ever it requires someone to move this forward to make it happen. But as there was an initiative with Magma 1.3 for Pharo 1.3 already it does not seem impossible.

Also - as Stef already pointed out - community services like CI could be used to maintain it once an initial up to date port was done.

Bye T.