Code Critics for unloaded projects
Hi list, I have a pretty special need, which is to be able to run code critics on projects that have not yet been loaded into the image. For example, I need to browse an st file -or a squeaksource project- and before loading it I want to run critics on it, would this be possible somehow? If it looks like something noone would need to do, I understand. It's just that the project I'm working on is pretty particular... I've been exploring other possibilities but I'm afraid this is one of the few left for me to think of :( Thanks a lot in advance! Bernat Romagosa.
Being able to run Code Critics on not loaded code would be a very nice thing, unfortunately it is not supported right now. We wanted to do the same in SqueakSource when we originally wrote the software, but we had to realize that a lot of the rules unnecessarily depend on the fact that the code is installed. It is still one of the todo items for the refactoring engine to make Code Critics completely runnable on the refactoring code model. As the Pharo code model is diverging more and more from the refactoring code model this is more likely to happen anytime soon. Lukas On 4 April 2011 11:41, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi list, I have a pretty special need, which is to be able to run code critics on projects that have not yet been loaded into the image. For example, I need to browse an st file -or a squeaksource project- and before loading it I want to run critics on it, would this be possible somehow? If it looks like something noone would need to do, I understand. It's just that the project I'm working on is pretty particular... I've been exploring other possibilities but I'm afraid this is one of the few left for me to think of :( Thanks a lot in advance! Bernat Romagosa.
-- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch
Being able to run Code Critics on not loaded code would be a very nice thing, unfortunately it is not supported right now. We wanted to do the same in SqueakSource when we originally wrote the software, but we had to realize that a lot of the rules unnecessarily depend on the fact that the code is installed.
It is still one of the todo items for the refactoring engine to make Code Critics completely runnable on the refactoring code model. As the Pharo code model is diverging more and more from the refactoring code model this is more likely to happen anytime soon.
Lukas what do you say that. Fixing the API of the RB code model should be simple to do. Especially since the code model does not have to run on all the smalltalk dialect so we are free to fix it. In addition the RB code model has always been a wrapper on top of other. We are working on Ring and the point is to use it to manage the source code and off-line source code model and the one of RB too -- may be you do not believe it but if we do not try we will not move and we should have an infrastructure that enable us to move. Now finally I do not see why changing is a problem, especially since the runtime system does not have to be the same everything. Stef
It is still one of the todo items for the refactoring engine to make Code Critics completely runnable on the refactoring code model. As the Pharo code model is diverging more and more from the refactoring code model this is more likely to happen anytime soon.
Lukas what do you say that. Fixing the API of the RB code model should be simple to do. Especially since the code model does not have to run on all the smalltalk dialect so we are free to fix it.
That is not entirely true, Slime and Magritte Critics rules (at least used to) run on other dialects too. Also there is external code that depends on it, such as Helvetia, Opal, ST2JS, SmaCC, ... The reason for moving Code Critics to use the refactoring model is that there will be only a single interaction point with the base system (Pharo). This will make maintenance simpler as only a single place needs to be updated (BrowserEnvironment for read-reflection, RefactoryChange for write-reflection). I don't know why Code Critics does not use the refactoring code model? It probably has historical reasons: Maybe it was a separate codebase at some point? Maybe it was done for performance reasons?
In addition the RB code model has always been a wrapper on top of other.
No, the refactoring code model is not a wrapper: it doesn't necessarily wrap something. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch
Is not enough loading the classes but not showing them in the browser ? or maybe not putting them in Smalltalk ? can you do kind of a fork (using OSProcess) of the proccess running image which receives a .st file and in the new forked image you pass the .st in startup, do a file in and then run code-critics? I am curious why you cannot load them hehehehhe On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:41 AM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi list,
I have a pretty special need, which is to be able to run code critics on projects that have not yet been loaded into the image. For example, I need to browse an st file -or a squeaksource project- and before loading it I want to run critics on it, would this be possible somehow?
If it looks like something noone would need to do, I understand. It's just that the project I'm working on is pretty particular... I've been exploring other possibilities but I'm afraid this is one of the few left for me to think of :(
Thanks a lot in advance!
Bernat Romagosa.
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Lukas, if that happened anytime soon it would make my life much easier hehe Is there a way I could help to give it a boost? Mariano, the reason I cannot load the package is that it may contain (either intentionally or not) harmful code. An .st file can contain arbitrary code that is going to be executed at load time, so it'd be really easy to hack the image: "Object compile: 'new'!", for instance ;) The solution you propose looks interesting, but I'm not sure I've completely understood it. Do you mean to run a new image, send it the project file to be filed in, have it run the critics on the loaded package, and get the output back to the original image? If so, that's a solution I've been thinking of, but it would spend too many resources. Even though I could always use a very light image, if only 5 users were to be working on the app at the same time I'm afraid the system would begin to suffer :( On a second thought, is there some smaller, simpler implementation of the SmallLint package? I wouldn't need to run all the tests, just a couple of them: Bugs, Intention Revealing, Miscelaneous and Unnecessary Code, and actually not even all the tests in these categories. Thanks a lot, I'm all ears :) Bernat. 2011/4/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
Is not enough loading the classes but not showing them in the browser ? or maybe not putting them in Smalltalk ?
can you do kind of a fork (using OSProcess) of the proccess running image which receives a .st file and in the new forked image you pass the .st in startup, do a file in and then run code-critics?
I am curious why you cannot load them hehehehhe
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:41 AM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi list,
I have a pretty special need, which is to be able to run code critics on projects that have not yet been loaded into the image. For example, I need to browse an st file -or a squeaksource project- and before loading it I want to run critics on it, would this be possible somehow?
If it looks like something noone would need to do, I understand. It's just that the project I'm working on is pretty particular... I've been exploring other possibilities but I'm afraid this is one of the few left for me to think of :(
Thanks a lot in advance!
Bernat Romagosa.
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Hi again, when trying Mariano's idea I get the following error: *forkSqueak requires XDisplayControlPlugin* * * *Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation.* Do I need to recompile the VM to add support for this plugin? If so, are there any guidelines around on how to do it? Thanks! Bernat. 2011/4/4 AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>
Lukas, if that happened anytime soon it would make my life much easier hehe
Is there a way I could help to give it a boost?
Mariano, the reason I cannot load the package is that it may contain (either intentionally or not) harmful code. An .st file can contain arbitrary code that is going to be executed at load time, so it'd be really easy to hack the image: "Object compile: 'new'!", for instance ;)
The solution you propose looks interesting, but I'm not sure I've completely understood it. Do you mean to run a new image, send it the project file to be filed in, have it run the critics on the loaded package, and get the output back to the original image? If so, that's a solution I've been thinking of, but it would spend too many resources. Even though I could always use a very light image, if only 5 users were to be working on the app at the same time I'm afraid the system would begin to suffer :(
On a second thought, is there some smaller, simpler implementation of the SmallLint package? I wouldn't need to run all the tests, just a couple of them: Bugs, Intention Revealing, Miscelaneous and Unnecessary Code, and actually not even all the tests in these categories.
Thanks a lot, I'm all ears :)
Bernat.
2011/4/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
Is not enough loading the classes but not showing them in the browser ? or maybe not putting them in Smalltalk ?
can you do kind of a fork (using OSProcess) of the proccess running image which receives a .st file and in the new forked image you pass the .st in startup, do a file in and then run code-critics?
I am curious why you cannot load them hehehehhe
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:41 AM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi list,
I have a pretty special need, which is to be able to run code critics on projects that have not yet been loaded into the image. For example, I need to browse an st file -or a squeaksource project- and before loading it I want to run critics on it, would this be possible somehow?
If it looks like something noone would need to do, I understand. It's just that the project I'm working on is pretty particular... I've been exploring other possibilities but I'm afraid this is one of the few left for me to think of :(
Thanks a lot in advance!
Bernat Romagosa.
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=129483... On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:34 PM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi again,
when trying Mariano's idea I get the following error:
*forkSqueak requires XDisplayControlPlugin* * * *Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation. *
Do I need to recompile the VM to add support for this plugin? If so, are there any guidelines around on how to do it?
Thanks!
Bernat.
2011/4/4 AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>
Lukas, if that happened anytime soon it would make my life much easier hehe
Is there a way I could help to give it a boost?
Mariano, the reason I cannot load the package is that it may contain (either intentionally or not) harmful code. An .st file can contain arbitrary code that is going to be executed at load time, so it'd be really easy to hack the image: "Object compile: 'new'!", for instance ;)
The solution you propose looks interesting, but I'm not sure I've completely understood it. Do you mean to run a new image, send it the project file to be filed in, have it run the critics on the loaded package, and get the output back to the original image? If so, that's a solution I've been thinking of, but it would spend too many resources. Even though I could always use a very light image, if only 5 users were to be working on the app at the same time I'm afraid the system would begin to suffer :(
On a second thought, is there some smaller, simpler implementation of the SmallLint package? I wouldn't need to run all the tests, just a couple of them: Bugs, Intention Revealing, Miscelaneous and Unnecessary Code, and actually not even all the tests in these categories.
Thanks a lot, I'm all ears :)
Bernat.
2011/4/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
Is not enough loading the classes but not showing them in the browser ? or maybe not putting them in Smalltalk ?
can you do kind of a fork (using OSProcess) of the proccess running image which receives a .st file and in the new forked image you pass the .st in startup, do a file in and then run code-critics?
I am curious why you cannot load them hehehehhe
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:41 AM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi list,
I have a pretty special need, which is to be able to run code critics on projects that have not yet been loaded into the image. For example, I need to browse an st file -or a squeaksource project- and before loading it I want to run critics on it, would this be possible somehow?
If it looks like something noone would need to do, I understand. It's just that the project I'm working on is pretty particular... I've been exploring other possibilities but I'm afraid this is one of the few left for me to think of :(
Thanks a lot in advance!
Bernat Romagosa.
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Hi Mariano, thanks, but I had already checked that discussion. The bundle that Esteban provided didn't work, quoting Stef: Thanks a lot I copied in the resources folder of 5.7.4 It crashes. Also, the thread was about it not working on MacOS (it made sense, it's an X11 control plugin), but I'm on Debian Linux. The only XDisplayControlPlugin I can find around is provided by the squeaksource pagage XDCP, but loading it fixes nothing either... 2011/4/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=129483...
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:34 PM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi again,
when trying Mariano's idea I get the following error:
*forkSqueak requires XDisplayControlPlugin* * * *Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation.*
Do I need to recompile the VM to add support for this plugin? If so, are there any guidelines around on how to do it?
Thanks!
Bernat.
2011/4/4 AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>
Lukas, if that happened anytime soon it would make my life much easier hehe
Is there a way I could help to give it a boost?
Mariano, the reason I cannot load the package is that it may contain (either intentionally or not) harmful code. An .st file can contain arbitrary code that is going to be executed at load time, so it'd be really easy to hack the image: "Object compile: 'new'!", for instance ;)
The solution you propose looks interesting, but I'm not sure I've completely understood it. Do you mean to run a new image, send it the project file to be filed in, have it run the critics on the loaded package, and get the output back to the original image? If so, that's a solution I've been thinking of, but it would spend too many resources. Even though I could always use a very light image, if only 5 users were to be working on the app at the same time I'm afraid the system would begin to suffer :(
On a second thought, is there some smaller, simpler implementation of the SmallLint package? I wouldn't need to run all the tests, just a couple of them: Bugs, Intention Revealing, Miscelaneous and Unnecessary Code, and actually not even all the tests in these categories.
Thanks a lot, I'm all ears :)
Bernat.
2011/4/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
Is not enough loading the classes but not showing them in the browser ? or maybe not putting them in Smalltalk ?
can you do kind of a fork (using OSProcess) of the proccess running image which receives a .st file and in the new forked image you pass the .st in startup, do a file in and then run code-critics?
I am curious why you cannot load them hehehehhe
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:41 AM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi list,
I have a pretty special need, which is to be able to run code critics on projects that have not yet been loaded into the image. For example, I need to browse an st file -or a squeaksource project- and before loading it I want to run critics on it, would this be possible somehow?
If it looks like something noone would need to do, I understand. It's just that the project I'm working on is pretty particular... I've been exploring other possibilities but I'm afraid this is one of the few left for me to think of :(
Thanks a lot in advance!
Bernat Romagosa.
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Sorry, I am useless then. I just cc'ed Dave to see if he can help. Cheers mariano On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:02 PM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Mariano, thanks, but I had already checked that discussion. The bundle that Esteban provided didn't work, quoting Stef:
Thanks a lot I copied in the resources folder of 5.7.4 It crashes.
Also, the thread was about it not working on MacOS (it made sense, it's an X11 control plugin), but I'm on Debian Linux. The only XDisplayControlPlugin I can find around is provided by the squeaksource pagage XDCP, but loading it fixes nothing either...
2011/4/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=129483...
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:34 PM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi again,
when trying Mariano's idea I get the following error:
*forkSqueak requires XDisplayControlPlugin* * * *Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation.*
Do I need to recompile the VM to add support for this plugin? If so, are there any guidelines around on how to do it?
Thanks!
Bernat.
2011/4/4 AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>
Lukas, if that happened anytime soon it would make my life much easier hehe
Is there a way I could help to give it a boost?
Mariano, the reason I cannot load the package is that it may contain (either intentionally or not) harmful code. An .st file can contain arbitrary code that is going to be executed at load time, so it'd be really easy to hack the image: "Object compile: 'new'!", for instance ;)
The solution you propose looks interesting, but I'm not sure I've completely understood it. Do you mean to run a new image, send it the project file to be filed in, have it run the critics on the loaded package, and get the output back to the original image? If so, that's a solution I've been thinking of, but it would spend too many resources. Even though I could always use a very light image, if only 5 users were to be working on the app at the same time I'm afraid the system would begin to suffer :(
On a second thought, is there some smaller, simpler implementation of the SmallLint package? I wouldn't need to run all the tests, just a couple of them: Bugs, Intention Revealing, Miscelaneous and Unnecessary Code, and actually not even all the tests in these categories.
Thanks a lot, I'm all ears :)
Bernat.
2011/4/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
Is not enough loading the classes but not showing them in the browser ? or maybe not putting them in Smalltalk ?
can you do kind of a fork (using OSProcess) of the proccess running image which receives a .st file and in the new forked image you pass the .st in startup, do a file in and then run code-critics?
I am curious why you cannot load them hehehehhe
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:41 AM, AxiNat < tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi list,
I have a pretty special need, which is to be able to run code critics on projects that have not yet been loaded into the image. For example, I need to browse an st file -or a squeaksource project- and before loading it I want to run critics on it, would this be possible somehow?
If it looks like something noone would need to do, I understand. It's just that the project I'm working on is pretty particular... I've been exploring other possibilities but I'm afraid this is one of the few left for me to think of :(
Thanks a lot in advance!
Bernat Romagosa.
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Bernat, OSProcess and CommandShell will work with a SqueakVM from http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/ so to solve your immediate problem you can use that VM. For background, a unix VM should include the OSProcess plugin, AIO plugin, and XDisplayControlPlugin. Cog VM's need some platform patches which may not yet have been integrated into the code base. With those patches in place, #forkSqueak will work on Cog, although the UI will not function for the forked image (but this is not a problem for many usages). Dave On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 06:35:20PM +0200, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Sorry, I am useless then. I just cc'ed Dave to see if he can help.
Cheers
mariano
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:02 PM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Mariano, thanks, but I had already checked that discussion. The bundle that Esteban provided didn't work, quoting Stef:
Thanks a lot I copied in the resources folder of 5.7.4 It crashes.
Also, the thread was about it not working on MacOS (it made sense, it's an X11 control plugin), but I'm on Debian Linux. The only XDisplayControlPlugin I can find around is provided by the squeaksource pagage XDCP, but loading it fixes nothing either...
2011/4/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=129483...
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:34 PM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi again,
when trying Mariano's idea I get the following error:
*forkSqueak requires XDisplayControlPlugin* * * *Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation.*
Do I need to recompile the VM to add support for this plugin? If so, are there any guidelines around on how to do it?
Thanks!
Bernat.
2011/4/4 AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>
Lukas, if that happened anytime soon it would make my life much easier hehe
Is there a way I could help to give it a boost?
Mariano, the reason I cannot load the package is that it may contain (either intentionally or not) harmful code. An .st file can contain arbitrary code that is going to be executed at load time, so it'd be really easy to hack the image: "Object compile: 'new'!", for instance ;)
The solution you propose looks interesting, but I'm not sure I've completely understood it. Do you mean to run a new image, send it the project file to be filed in, have it run the critics on the loaded package, and get the output back to the original image? If so, that's a solution I've been thinking of, but it would spend too many resources. Even though I could always use a very light image, if only 5 users were to be working on the app at the same time I'm afraid the system would begin to suffer :(
On a second thought, is there some smaller, simpler implementation of the SmallLint package? I wouldn't need to run all the tests, just a couple of them: Bugs, Intention Revealing, Miscelaneous and Unnecessary Code, and actually not even all the tests in these categories.
Thanks a lot, I'm all ears :)
Bernat.
2011/4/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
Is not enough loading the classes but not showing them in the browser ? or maybe not putting them in Smalltalk ?
can you do kind of a fork (using OSProcess) of the proccess running image which receives a .st file and in the new forked image you pass the .st in startup, do a file in and then run code-critics?
I am curious why you cannot load them hehehehhe
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:41 AM, AxiNat < tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi list,
I have a pretty special need, which is to be able to run code critics on projects that have not yet been loaded into the image. For example, I need to browse an st file -or a squeaksource project- and before loading it I want to run critics on it, would this be possible somehow?
If it looks like something noone would need to do, I understand. It's just that the project I'm working on is pretty particular... I've been exploring other possibilities but I'm afraid this is one of the few left for me to think of :(
Thanks a lot in advance!
Bernat Romagosa.
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Dave, thanks a lot, I'm gonna try it right away. On the other topic, I'm not sure I completely understood what the problem is. Couldn't we write an extension to Code Critics that ran on unloaded code? In which ways would that break compatibility with other dialects? I think this functionality would be really neat for projects that deal with other smalltalk projects (like Squeaksource/Squeakhub), and as it's pretty crucial to my project I'm willing and able to put my time into it. The problem is I'm afraid my skills do not suffice to take on this project on my own, so any guidelines on how to proceed or who to address would be of great help :) Bernat Romagosa. 2011/4/4 David T. Lewis <lewis@mail.msen.com>
Bernat,
OSProcess and CommandShell will work with a SqueakVM from http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/ so to solve your immediate problem you can use that VM.
For background, a unix VM should include the OSProcess plugin, AIO plugin, and XDisplayControlPlugin. Cog VM's need some platform patches which may not yet have been integrated into the code base. With those patches in place, #forkSqueak will work on Cog, although the UI will not function for the forked image (but this is not a problem for many usages).
Dave
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 06:35:20PM +0200, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Sorry, I am useless then. I just cc'ed Dave to see if he can help.
Cheers
mariano
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:02 PM, AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Mariano, thanks, but I had already checked that discussion. The bundle that Esteban provided didn't work, quoting Stef:
Thanks a lot I copied in the resources folder of 5.7.4 It crashes.
Also, the thread was about it not working on MacOS (it made sense, it's an X11 control plugin), but I'm on Debian Linux. The only XDisplayControlPlugin I can find around is provided by the squeaksource pagage XDCP, but loading it fixes nothing either...
2011/4/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=129483...
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:34 PM, AxiNat <
tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi again,
when trying Mariano's idea I get the following error:
*forkSqueak requires XDisplayControlPlugin* * * *Select Proceed to continue, or close this window to cancel the operation.*
Do I need to recompile the VM to add support for this plugin? If so,
are
there any guidelines around on how to do it?
Thanks!
Bernat.
2011/4/4 AxiNat <tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com>
Lukas, if that happened anytime soon it would make my life much easier hehe
Is there a way I could help to give it a boost?
Mariano, the reason I cannot load the package is that it may contain (either intentionally or not) harmful code. An .st file can contain arbitrary code that is going to be executed at load time, so it'd be really easy to hack the image: "Object compile: 'new'!", for instance ;)
The solution you propose looks interesting, but I'm not sure I've completely understood it. Do you mean to run a new image, send it the project file to be filed in, have it run the critics on the loaded package, and get the output back to the original image? If so, that's a solution I've been thinking of, but it would spend too many resources. Even though I could always use a very light image, if only 5 users were to be working on the app at the same time I'm afraid the system would begin to suffer :(
On a second thought, is there some smaller, simpler implementation of the SmallLint package? I wouldn't need to run all the tests, just a couple of them: Bugs, Intention Revealing, Miscelaneous and Unnecessary Code, and actually not even all the tests in these categories.
Thanks a lot, I'm all ears :)
Bernat.
2011/4/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
Is not enough loading the classes but not showing them in the browser ? or maybe not putting them in Smalltalk ?
can you do kind of a fork (using OSProcess) of the proccess running image which receives a .st file and in the new forked image you pass the .st in startup, do a file in and then run code-critics?
I am curious why you cannot load them hehehehhe
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:41 AM, AxiNat < tibabenfortlapalanca@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi list,
I have a pretty special need, which is to be able to run code critics on projects that have not yet been loaded into the image. For example, I need to browse an st file -or a squeaksource project- and before loading it I want to run critics on it, would this be possible somehow?
If it looks like something noone would need to do, I understand. It's just that the project I'm working on is pretty particular... I've been exploring other possibilities but I'm afraid this is one of the few left for me to think of :(
Thanks a lot in advance!
Bernat Romagosa.
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
On the other topic, I'm not sure I completely understood what the problem is. Couldn't we write an extension to Code Critics that ran on unloaded code?
The problem is that Code Critics makes the assumption that the code is loaded and does a lot of hard-core reflection using the system API. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch
Ok I understand, and I guess modifying this would mean re-engineering the whole thing, right? Are there any alternatives around? Could you, for example, use Moose to analyse smalltalk code quality? I've heard about Chuck too, but I'm not sure the project is alive... Thanks! Bernat. 2011/4/5 Lukas Renggli <renggli@gmail.com>
On the other topic, I'm not sure I completely understood what the problem is. Couldn't we write an extension to Code Critics that ran on unloaded code?
The problem is that Code Critics makes the assumption that the code is loaded and does a lot of hard-core reflection using the system API.
Lukas
-- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch
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AxiNat -
Bernat Romagosa
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David T. Lewis -
Lukas Renggli -
Mariano Martinez Peck -
Stéphane Ducasse