Phratch: Support for Spanish language in the interface
Hi, Some teachers are considering to make some field work with Phratch on learning physics by modelling simple real world phenomena (uniform accelerated movement, free fall etc). I downloaded it today and try to change the interface to Spanish, but I couldn't find the proper place to do it. Has Phratch support for a Spanish interface. If not, how difficult will be to provide this and how can we help? Cheers, Offray
Dear Offray, Thank you for using phratch. Spanish is available. You just have to click on the sphere on the left of "file" menu. Here, you will find a list of available languages. Sometimes, there are blocks that are not translated. In this case, don't hesitate to contact me, we will translate them. Best regards, Jannik 2015-07-02 5:09 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray@riseup.net>:
Hi,
Some teachers are considering to make some field work with Phratch on learning physics by modelling simple real world phenomena (uniform accelerated movement, free fall etc). I downloaded it today and try to change the interface to Spanish, but I couldn't find the proper place to do it. Has Phratch support for a Spanish interface. If not, how difficult will be to provide this and how can we help?
Cheers,
Offray
-- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Thanks Jannik, it worked. I miss the little globe. Cheers, Offray On 02/07/15 06:48, jannik laval wrote:
Dear Offray,
Thank you for using phratch. Spanish is available. You just have to click on the sphere on the left of "file" menu. Here, you will find a list of available languages. Sometimes, there are blocks that are not translated. In this case, don't hesitate to contact me, we will translate them.
Best regards, Jannik
2015-07-02 5:09 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray@riseup.net <mailto:offray@riseup.net>>:
Hi,
Some teachers are considering to make some field work with Phratch on learning physics by modelling simple real world phenomena (uniform accelerated movement, free fall etc). I downloaded it today and try to change the interface to Spanish, but I couldn't find the proper place to do it. Has Phratch support for a Spanish interface. If not, how difficult will be to provide this and how can we help?
Cheers,
Offray
--
~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Hi Jannik, about that. Why is Phratch not picking the language from the environment? Scratch on the same platform (linux / french) does it. Regards, Thierry Le 02/07/2015 14:00, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas a écrit :
Thanks Jannik, it worked. I miss the little globe.
Cheers,
Offray
On 02/07/15 06:48, jannik laval wrote:
Dear Offray,
Thank you for using phratch. Spanish is available. You just have to click on the sphere on the left of "file" menu. Here, you will find a list of available languages. Sometimes, there are blocks that are not translated. In this case, don't hesitate to contact me, we will translate them.
Best regards, Jannik
2015-07-02 5:09 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <<mailto:offray@riseup.net>offray@riseup.net>:
Hi,
Some teachers are considering to make some field work with Phratch on learning physics by modelling simple real world phenomena (uniform accelerated movement, free fall etc). I downloaded it today and try to change the interface to Spanish, but I couldn't find the proper place to do it. Has Phratch support for a Spanish interface. If not, how difficult will be to provide this and how can we help?
Cheers,
Offray
--
~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Hi Thierry, It is a choice :) Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible with platforms where it is not available. Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost. If you have a code snippet, I can use it. Cheers, Jannik 2015-07-02 17:14 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier@gmail.com>:
Hi Jannik,
about that. Why is Phratch not picking the language from the environment? Scratch on the same platform (linux / french) does it.
Regards,
Thierry
Le 02/07/2015 14:00, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas a écrit :
Thanks Jannik, it worked. I miss the little globe.
Cheers,
Offray
On 02/07/15 06:48, jannik laval wrote:
Dear Offray,
Thank you for using phratch. Spanish is available. You just have to click on the sphere on the left of "file" menu. Here, you will find a list of available languages. Sometimes, there are blocks that are not translated. In this case, don't hesitate to contact me, we will translate them.
Best regards, Jannik
2015-07-02 5:09 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <<mailto:offray@riseup.net>offray@riseup.net>:
Hi,
Some teachers are considering to make some field work with Phratch on learning physics by modelling simple real world phenomena (uniform accelerated movement, free fall etc). I downloaded it today and try to change the interface to Spanish, but I couldn't find the proper place to do it. Has Phratch support for a Spanish interface. If not, how difficult will be to provide this and how can we help?
Cheers,
Offray
--
~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
-- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
2015-07-03 10:51 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com>:
Hi Thierry,
It is a choice :) Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible with platforms where it is not available.
Ok. I need to have a deeper look into all this (like why phratch doesn't has the sound working on linux). My daughters are using scratch at the moment, and we're planning scratch-type of things around fablab-type activities, so it would be good to do Phratch instead. And I want to control my daughter's Lego with Phratch via bluetooth ;)
Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost.
Yes, I've seen that you load OSProcess in Phratch, so it means we can rely on it. NativeBoost has access to the environment variables, and it would be to use LANG.
If you have a code snippet, I can use it.
I don't know enough about Phratch source code to propose anything yet. LANG value on my system is probably typical and is 'fr_FR.UTF-8'; how would that match Phratch language settings ? Regards, Thierry
2015-07-03 11:01 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier@gmail.com>:
2015-07-03 10:51 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com>:
Hi Thierry,
It is a choice :) Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible with platforms where it is not available.
Ok. I need to have a deeper look into all this (like why phratch doesn't has the sound working on linux). My daughters are using scratch at the moment, and we're planning scratch-type of things around fablab-type activities, so it would be good to do Phratch instead.
Yes, does she try to load the sound addon ? Normally, sound should work on the latest pharo VM, but I did not try it.
And I want to control my daughter's Lego with Phratch via bluetooth ;)
Yes, we have some problems with Linux and bluetooth... but we will fix it soon, i hope.
Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost.
Yes, I've seen that you load OSProcess in Phratch, so it means we can rely on it. NativeBoost has access to the environment variables, and it would be to use LANG.
If you have a code snippet, I can use it.
I don't know enough about Phratch source code to propose anything yet. LANG value on my system is probably typical and is 'fr_FR.UTF-8'; how would that match Phratch language settings ?
phratch uses the .po files, like scratch. So, the string sent by your system should be uderstandable by phratch. Jannik
Regards,
Thierry
-- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
2015-07-03 11:06 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com>:
2015-07-03 11:01 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier@gmail.com>:
2015-07-03 10:51 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com>:
Hi Thierry,
It is a choice :) Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible with platforms where it is not available.
Ok. I need to have a deeper look into all this (like why phratch doesn't has the sound working on linux). My daughters are using scratch at the moment, and we're planning scratch-type of things around fablab-type activities, so it would be good to do Phratch instead.
Yes, does she try to load the sound addon ? Normally, sound should work on the latest pharo VM, but I did not try it.
I'll have a try. There is a CI for Phratch? I'm on Ubuntu 15.04, so I can't use the pharo ppa to install Phratch.
And I want to control my daughter's Lego with Phratch via bluetooth ;)
Yes, we have some problems with Linux and bluetooth... but we will fix it soon, i hope.
What is missing? There is some in-house expertise on using serial ports from within Pharo, and, from what I could see from the Mindstorm documentation, a Lego Mindstorm should appear as a serial device.
Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost.
Yes, I've seen that you load OSProcess in Phratch, so it means we can rely on it. NativeBoost has access to the environment variables, and it would be to use LANG.
If you have a code snippet, I can use it.
I don't know enough about Phratch source code to propose anything yet. LANG value on my system is probably typical and is 'fr_FR.UTF-8'; how would that match Phratch language settings ?
phratch uses the .po files, like scratch. So, the string sent by your system should be uderstandable by phratch.
Ok. I'll have a look then. Thierry
Jannik
Regards,
Thierry
--
~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
Wait, there is already in-image support to obtain the current locale and language setting. Did you try Locale current ? (and there is a setting to enable its obtention automatically on startup). Actually if somebody uses it for real and tests it well that would be a big +1 :) Guille El vie., 3 de jul. de 2015 a la(s) 11:23 a. m., Thierry Goubier < thierry.goubier@gmail.com> escribió:
2015-07-03 11:06 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com>:
2015-07-03 11:01 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier@gmail.com>:
2015-07-03 10:51 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com>:
Hi Thierry,
It is a choice :) Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible with platforms where it is not available.
Ok. I need to have a deeper look into all this (like why phratch doesn't has the sound working on linux). My daughters are using scratch at the moment, and we're planning scratch-type of things around fablab-type activities, so it would be good to do Phratch instead.
Yes, does she try to load the sound addon ? Normally, sound should work on the latest pharo VM, but I did not try it.
I'll have a try. There is a CI for Phratch? I'm on Ubuntu 15.04, so I can't use the pharo ppa to install Phratch.
And I want to control my daughter's Lego with Phratch via bluetooth ;)
Yes, we have some problems with Linux and bluetooth... but we will fix it soon, i hope.
What is missing? There is some in-house expertise on using serial ports from within Pharo, and, from what I could see from the Mindstorm documentation, a Lego Mindstorm should appear as a serial device.
Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost.
Yes, I've seen that you load OSProcess in Phratch, so it means we can rely on it. NativeBoost has access to the environment variables, and it would be to use LANG.
If you have a code snippet, I can use it.
I don't know enough about Phratch source code to propose anything yet. LANG value on my system is probably typical and is 'fr_FR.UTF-8'; how would that match Phratch language settings ?
phratch uses the .po files, like scratch. So, the string sent by your system should be uderstandable by phratch.
Ok. I'll have a look then.
Thierry
Jannik
Regards,
Thierry
--
~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
2015-07-03 11:22 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier@gmail.com>:
2015-07-03 11:06 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com>:
2015-07-03 11:01 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier@gmail.com>:
2015-07-03 10:51 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com>:
Hi Thierry,
It is a choice :) Scratch uses the scratch plugin to do that. In phratch, I removed the scratch plugin, to be sure to be compatible with platforms where it is not available.
Ok. I need to have a deeper look into all this (like why phratch doesn't has the sound working on linux). My daughters are using scratch at the moment, and we're planning scratch-type of things around fablab-type activities, so it would be good to do Phratch instead.
Yes, does she try to load the sound addon ? Normally, sound should work on the latest pharo VM, but I did not try it.
I'll have a try. There is a CI for Phratch? I'm on Ubuntu 15.04, so I can't use the pharo ppa to install Phratch.
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/
And I want to control my daughter's Lego with Phratch via bluetooth ;)
Yes, we have some problems with Linux and bluetooth... but we will fix it soon, i hope.
What is missing? There is some in-house expertise on using serial ports from within Pharo, and, from what I could see from the Mindstorm documentation, a Lego Mindstorm should appear as a serial device.
We use a serial connection on the bluetooth, after a pairing. We need to send data on the /dev/bluetooth-ev3-something Sometimes, the ev3 does not appear in /dev.
Maybe, we can reintroduce it using OSProcess or NativeBoost.
Yes, I've seen that you load OSProcess in Phratch, so it means we can rely on it. NativeBoost has access to the environment variables, and it would be to use LANG.
If you have a code snippet, I can use it.
I don't know enough about Phratch source code to propose anything yet. LANG value on my system is probably typical and is 'fr_FR.UTF-8'; how would that match Phratch language settings ?
phratch uses the .po files, like scratch. So, the string sent by your system should be uderstandable by phratch.
Ok. I'll have a look then.
Thank you. Jannik
Thierry
Jannik
Regards,
Thierry
--
~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
-- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/
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Thierry Goubier