[ANN] Pharo4 code freeze will be 28/Feb, release target 1/Apr
Hi, So⦠Iâm announcing that we will not introduce any new change to Pharo4 after February 28, and we will work on stabilisation and bug fixed⦠we are aiming to release in April 1st. This version will not be spur-based, that will come with the summer release. Cheers, Esteban
What is the state of OSWindow integration? This release or later? 2015-02-18 13:28 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
Hi,
So⦠Iâm announcing that we will not introduce any new change to Pharo4 after February 28, and we will work on stabilisation and bug fixed⦠we are aiming to release in April 1st. This version will not be spur-based, that will come with the summer release.
Cheers, Esteban
it depends on your definition of âstatusâ :) first version is integrated latest vm includes also SDL2 plugin. but is there as *preview*, which means a lot of work still needs to be done. cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 14:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
What is the state of OSWindow integration? This release or later?
2015-02-18 13:28 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: Hi,
So⦠Iâm announcing that we will not introduce any new change to Pharo4 after February 28, and we will work on stabilisation and bug fixed⦠we are aiming to release in April 1st. This version will not be spur-based, that will come with the summer release.
Cheers, Esteban
2015-02-18 15:46 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
it depends on your definition of âstatusâ :)
:) That is easy to define: definition of "status" = fogbugz status -> OSWindow 6 open issues
first version is integrated latest vm includes also SDL2 plugin.
but is there as *preview*, which means a lot of work still needs to be done.
cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 14:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
What is the state of OSWindow integration? This release or later?
2015-02-18 13:28 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
Hi,
So⦠Iâm announcing that we will not introduce any new change to Pharo4 after February 28, and we will work on stabilisation and bug fixed⦠we are aiming to release in April 1st. This version will not be spur-based, that will come with the summer release.
Cheers, Esteban
one less :) but really, the problem is that those issues are mistaking issues⦠For OSWindow integration they are understanding three things: 1) the integration of OSWindow mechanism as a way to control the system window. 2) the replacement of current input event mechanism with a new, image-level one, more complete and modern. 3) the replacement of current BitBlt system window with one based on SDL2 and vectorial graphics (Athens-based). As you might imagine⦠steps 2 and 3 are really needed, but far from easy. The only step that we could mark as âdoneâ right now is the first one⦠steps 2 and 3 are âmore or lessâ worked⦠there are prototypes but still not realistic estimation of what amount of time will take to actually do it⦠It is âthoughtâ to be done in Pharo5⦠weâll see. And the problem on integrating some of those changes is that are âone-way-shotsâ⦠once done, we cannot go back. I will mark some of those issues as âon holdâ with a clarification. cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 16:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
2015-02-18 15:46 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: it depends on your definition of âstatusâ :)
:) That is easy to define: definition of "status" = fogbugz status -> OSWindow 6 open issues
first version is integrated latest vm includes also SDL2 plugin.
but is there as *preview*, which means a lot of work still needs to be done.
cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 14:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote:
What is the state of OSWindow integration? This release or later?
2015-02-18 13:28 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: Hi,
So⦠Iâm announcing that we will not introduce any new change to Pharo4 after February 28, and we will work on stabilisation and bug fixed⦠we are aiming to release in April 1st. This version will not be spur-based, that will come with the summer release.
Cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 16:34, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
one less :) but really, the problem is that those issues are mistaking issues⦠For OSWindow integration they are understanding three things:
1) the integration of OSWindow mechanism as a way to control the system window. 2) the replacement of current input event mechanism with a new, image-level one, more complete and modern. 3) the replacement of current BitBlt system window with one based on SDL2 and vectorial graphics (Athens-based).
As you might imagine⦠steps 2 and 3 are really needed, but far from easy. The only step that we could mark as âdoneâ right now is the first one⦠steps 2 and 3 are âmore or lessâ worked⦠there are prototypes but still not realistic estimation of what amount of time will take to actually do it⦠It is âthoughtâ to be done in Pharo5⦠weâll see.
And the problem on integrating some of those changes is that are âone-way-shotsâ⦠once done, we cannot go back. I will mark some of those issues as âon holdâ with a clarification.
done
cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 16:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote:
2015-02-18 15:46 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: it depends on your definition of âstatusâ :)
:) That is easy to define: definition of "status" = fogbugz status -> OSWindow 6 open issues
first version is integrated latest vm includes also SDL2 plugin.
but is there as *preview*, which means a lot of work still needs to be done.
cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 14:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de <mailto:nicolaihess@web.de>> wrote:
What is the state of OSWindow integration? This release or later?
2015-02-18 13:28 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: Hi,
So⦠Iâm announcing that we will not introduce any new change to Pharo4 after February 28, and we will work on stabilisation and bug fixed⦠we are aiming to release in April 1st. This version will not be spur-based, that will come with the summer release.
Cheers, Esteban
So the in Fogbugz we need probably milestone tags for Pharo 4.1 and Pharo 5.0 so we can push issues to them. cheers -ben On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 18 Feb 2015, at 16:34, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
one less :) but really, the problem is that those issues are mistaking issues⦠For OSWindow integration they are understanding three things:
1) the integration of OSWindow mechanism as a way to control the system window. 2) the replacement of current input event mechanism with a new, image-level one, more complete and modern. 3) the replacement of current BitBlt system window with one based on SDL2 and vectorial graphics (Athens-based).
As you might imagine⦠steps 2 and 3 are really needed, but far from easy. The only step that we could mark as âdoneâ right now is the first one⦠steps 2 and 3 are âmore or lessâ worked⦠there are prototypes but still not realistic estimation of what amount of time will take to actually do it⦠It is âthoughtâ to be done in Pharo5⦠weâll see.
And the problem on integrating some of those changes is that are âone-way-shotsâ⦠once done, we cannot go back. I will mark some of those issues as âon holdâ with a clarification.
done
cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 16:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
2015-02-18 15:46 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
it depends on your definition of âstatusâ :)
:) That is easy to define: definition of "status" = fogbugz status -> OSWindow 6 open issues
first version is integrated latest vm includes also SDL2 plugin.
but is there as *preview*, which means a lot of work still needs to be done.
cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 14:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
What is the state of OSWindow integration? This release or later?
2015-02-18 13:28 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
Hi,
So⦠Iâm announcing that we will not introduce any new change to Pharo4 after February 28, and we will work on stabilisation and bug fixed⦠we are aiming to release in April 1st. This version will not be spur-based, that will come with the summer release.
Cheers, Esteban
So how are externally managed ConfigurationOf packages going to be handled in this period? Last year I felt (maybe unjustified) that more than bug fixes slipped in when an external package like Spec was synchronised in the code freeze period. Do developers of an external package like for Spotter and Playground have to halt their feature development branch, so that bug fixes can be incorporated separately? cheers -ben On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
So the in Fogbugz we need probably milestone tags for Pharo 4.1 and Pharo 5.0 so we can push issues to them. cheers -ben
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 18 Feb 2015, at 16:34, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
one less :) but really, the problem is that those issues are mistaking issues⦠For OSWindow integration they are understanding three things:
1) the integration of OSWindow mechanism as a way to control the system window. 2) the replacement of current input event mechanism with a new, image-level one, more complete and modern. 3) the replacement of current BitBlt system window with one based on SDL2 and vectorial graphics (Athens-based).
As you might imagine⦠steps 2 and 3 are really needed, but far from easy. The only step that we could mark as âdoneâ right now is the first one⦠steps 2 and 3 are âmore or lessâ worked⦠there are prototypes but still not realistic estimation of what amount of time will take to actually do it⦠It is âthoughtâ to be done in Pharo5⦠weâll see.
And the problem on integrating some of those changes is that are âone-way-shotsâ⦠once done, we cannot go back. I will mark some of those issues as âon holdâ with a clarification.
done
cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 16:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
2015-02-18 15:46 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
it depends on your definition of âstatusâ :)
:) That is easy to define: definition of "status" = fogbugz status -> OSWindow 6 open issues
first version is integrated latest vm includes also SDL2 plugin.
but is there as *preview*, which means a lot of work still needs to be done.
cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 14:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
What is the state of OSWindow integration? This release or later?
2015-02-18 13:28 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
Hi,
So⦠Iâm announcing that we will not introduce any new change to Pharo4 after February 28, and we will work on stabilisation and bug fixed⦠we are aiming to release in April 1st. This version will not be spur-based, that will come with the summer release.
Cheers, Esteban
btw, I'd really like to get the following three fixes into Pharo 4 before the code freeze. * 16 steps to get through #halt Status: Ready to review (https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12970) * Delay refactoring (part 2b) - clean out newCodeEnabled wrappers Status: Ready to review (should be easy, https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14942) * Change Delay from milliseconds to microseconds ( http://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14353) Status: This was reviewed and went for integration a while ago, but needs to be rebased on the build following cleanup of newCodeEnabled (issue 14042). cheers -ben On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 18 Feb 2015, at 16:34, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
one less :) but really, the problem is that those issues are mistaking issues⦠For OSWindow integration they are understanding three things:
1) the integration of OSWindow mechanism as a way to control the system window. 2) the replacement of current input event mechanism with a new, image-level one, more complete and modern. 3) the replacement of current BitBlt system window with one based on SDL2 and vectorial graphics (Athens-based).
As you might imagine⦠steps 2 and 3 are really needed, but far from easy. The only step that we could mark as âdoneâ right now is the first one⦠steps 2 and 3 are âmore or lessâ worked⦠there are prototypes but still not realistic estimation of what amount of time will take to actually do it⦠It is âthoughtâ to be done in Pharo5⦠weâll see.
And the problem on integrating some of those changes is that are âone-way-shotsâ⦠once done, we cannot go back. I will mark some of those issues as âon holdâ with a clarification.
done
cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 16:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
2015-02-18 15:46 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
it depends on your definition of âstatusâ :)
:) That is easy to define: definition of "status" = fogbugz status -> OSWindow 6 open issues
first version is integrated latest vm includes also SDL2 plugin.
but is there as *preview*, which means a lot of work still needs to be done.
cheers, Esteban
On 18 Feb 2015, at 14:12, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
What is the state of OSWindow integration? This release or later?
2015-02-18 13:28 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
Hi,
So⦠Iâm announcing that we will not introduce any new change to Pharo4 after February 28, and we will work on stabilisation and bug fixed⦠we are aiming to release in April 1st. This version will not be spur-based, that will come with the summer release.
Cheers, Esteban
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