[ANN] file dialog replacement experiment
Hi, last week I stitched together a simple file dialog replacement and today I managed to somewhat finish it. There is still a lot to be desired, but right now it supports things that were the most pain for me: * list of most common places (home, root, image directory, temp) * custom bookmarks by dragging folders from file-pane to bookmark-pane * toggle hidden files (right-click on file listing) * preset file name * filtering files by extensions or patterns and toggling between filters * synchronous and asynchronous mode â You can use it independently of Pharo's native dialogs FDOpenFileDialog new extensionFilters: {'STON files' -> #(ston). 'All files' -> #()}; defaultFolder: FileLocator imageDirectory asFileReference; openModal Or if you feel brave, I have an extended UIManager that will use thisâ¦, and then you can use regular manager commands UIManager default chooseFileMatching: #('*.ston') but you can always go back FDMorphicUIManager new beDefault. "use new dialogs" MorphicUIManager new beDefault. "use old dialogs" and of course the installation itself (I'll add it to catalog soon after I find a way to autogenerate configurations from git tags) Metacello new baseline: 'FileDialog'; repository: 'github://peteruhnak/file-dialog/repository'; load. More info and docs on GitHub https://github.com/peteruhnak/file-dialog Any comments/feedback/bug reports is appreciated. Peter
Peter, This is really well done ! This should be used as an example on how to use Spec for something real. What I am missing in the UI is some indication of the path that leads to the current selected file. Right now, I am wondering where exactly I am, I feel a bit lost (this is of course from the technical standpoint of a path in a tree). This could be done with a popup, a trail, a pop-over. We should have some more discussions about this, it could make a great addition to Pharo. Sven
On 11 Jun 2016, at 02:45, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
last week I stitched together a simple file dialog replacement and today I managed to somewhat finish it.
There is still a lot to be desired, but right now it supports things that were the most pain for me:
* list of most common places (home, root, image directory, temp) * custom bookmarks by dragging folders from file-pane to bookmark-pane * toggle hidden files (right-click on file listing) * preset file name * filtering files by extensions or patterns and toggling between filters * synchronous and asynchronous mode
<file-dialog-3.png> â You can use it independently of Pharo's native dialogs
FDOpenFileDialog new extensionFilters: {'STON files' -> #(ston). 'All files' -> #()}; defaultFolder: FileLocator imageDirectory asFileReference; openModal
Or if you feel brave, I have an extended UIManager that will use thisâ¦, and then you can use regular manager commands
UIManager default chooseFileMatching: #('*.ston')
but you can always go back
FDMorphicUIManager new beDefault. "use new dialogs" MorphicUIManager new beDefault. "use old dialogs"
and of course the installation itself (I'll add it to catalog soon after I find a way to autogenerate configurations from git tags)
Metacello new baseline: 'FileDialog'; repository: 'github://peteruhnak/file-dialog/repository'; load.
More info and docs on GitHub https://github.com/peteruhnak/file-dialog
Any comments/feedback/bug reports is appreciated.
Peter
Hi Sven, What I am missing in the UI is some indication of the path that leads to
the current selected file. Right now, I am wondering where exactly I am, I feel a bit lost (this is of course from the technical standpoint of a path in a tree). This could be done with a popup, a trail, a pop-over.
I've added this couple of days ago (as I was missing this too), I just forgot to push the update to github (one downside compared to smalltalkhub :)). The only problem is that the image directory name is usually really long (the longest I have is 110 characters as it includes the build's name), so it doesn't exactly fit in. There is some shortening happening based on the window's width but it's not perfect. What I like is what zenity does (clickable path)⦠but it automatically widens the window â Peter
We should have some more discussions about this, it could make a great addition to Pharo.
Sven
On 11 Jun 2016, at 02:45, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
last week I stitched together a simple file dialog replacement and today I managed to somewhat finish it.
There is still a lot to be desired, but right now it supports things that were the most pain for me:
* list of most common places (home, root, image directory, temp) * custom bookmarks by dragging folders from file-pane to bookmark-pane * toggle hidden files (right-click on file listing) * preset file name * filtering files by extensions or patterns and toggling between filters * synchronous and asynchronous mode
<file-dialog-3.png> â You can use it independently of Pharo's native dialogs
FDOpenFileDialog new extensionFilters: {'STON files' -> #(ston). 'All files' -> #()}; defaultFolder: FileLocator imageDirectory asFileReference; openModal
Or if you feel brave, I have an extended UIManager that will use thisâ¦, and then you can use regular manager commands
UIManager default chooseFileMatching: #('*.ston')
but you can always go back
FDMorphicUIManager new beDefault. "use new dialogs" MorphicUIManager new beDefault. "use old dialogs"
and of course the installation itself (I'll add it to catalog soon after I find a way to autogenerate configurations from git tags)
Metacello new baseline: 'FileDialog'; repository: 'github://peteruhnak/file-dialog/repository'; load.
More info and docs on GitHub https://github.com/peteruhnak/file-dialog
Any comments/feedback/bug reports is appreciated.
Peter
On 14 Jul 2016, at 23:49, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sven,
What I am missing in the UI is some indication of the path that leads to the current selected file. Right now, I am wondering where exactly I am, I feel a bit lost (this is of course from the technical standpoint of a path in a tree). This could be done with a popup, a trail, a pop-over.
I've added this couple of days ago (as I was missing this too), I just forgot to push the update to github (one downside compared to smalltalkhub :)).
The only problem is that the image directory name is usually really long (the longest I have is 110 characters as it includes the build's name), so it doesn't exactly fit in. There is some shortening happening based on the window's width but it's not perfect.
I had another look. Yes, this is cool. If you truncate, you could put the full, non truncated path in a pop over, that would be a cheap way to solve that problem, no ? In any case, in my testing there was enough space. Maybe also add a trailing / to indicate that it represents the directory and not the selection ? Also when I tested it, using FDOpenFileDialog new openModal. the path is initially blank, it only fills when I start clicking. BTW, could it be that FDMorphicUIManager becomes default automatically ? And related to github filetree, what is the proper way to get a new version once you loaded the code ?
What I like is what zenity does (clickable path)⦠but it automatically widens the window
<zenity.png> â Peter
We should have some more discussions about this, it could make a great addition to Pharo.
Sven
On 11 Jun 2016, at 02:45, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
last week I stitched together a simple file dialog replacement and today I managed to somewhat finish it.
There is still a lot to be desired, but right now it supports things that were the most pain for me:
* list of most common places (home, root, image directory, temp) * custom bookmarks by dragging folders from file-pane to bookmark-pane * toggle hidden files (right-click on file listing) * preset file name * filtering files by extensions or patterns and toggling between filters * synchronous and asynchronous mode
<file-dialog-3.png> â You can use it independently of Pharo's native dialogs
FDOpenFileDialog new extensionFilters: {'STON files' -> #(ston). 'All files' -> #()}; defaultFolder: FileLocator imageDirectory asFileReference; openModal
Or if you feel brave, I have an extended UIManager that will use thisâ¦, and then you can use regular manager commands
UIManager default chooseFileMatching: #('*.ston')
but you can always go back
FDMorphicUIManager new beDefault. "use new dialogs" MorphicUIManager new beDefault. "use old dialogs"
and of course the installation itself (I'll add it to catalog soon after I find a way to autogenerate configurations from git tags)
Metacello new baseline: 'FileDialog'; repository: 'github://peteruhnak/file-dialog/repository'; load.
More info and docs on GitHub https://github.com/peteruhnak/file-dialog
Any comments/feedback/bug reports is appreciated.
Peter
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
On 14 Jul 2016, at 23:49, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sven,
What I am missing in the UI is some indication of the path that leads to the current selected file. Right now, I am wondering where exactly I am, I feel a bit lost (this is of course from the technical standpoint of a path in a tree). This could be done with a popup, a trail, a pop-over.
I've added this couple of days ago (as I was missing this too), I just forgot to push the update to github (one downside compared to smalltalkhub :)).
The only problem is that the image directory name is usually really long (the longest I have is 110 characters as it includes the build's name), so it doesn't exactly fit in. There is some shortening happening based on the window's width but it's not perfect.
I had another look. Yes, this is cool.
If you truncate, you could put the full, non truncated path in a pop over, that would be a cheap way to solve that problem, no ? In any case, in my testing there was enough space.
If Spec supports it, then it should be easy.
Maybe also add a trailing / to indicate that it represents the directory and not the selection ?
Originally I wanted to make it bold, but again, Spec doesn't support Text properly; trailing slash might be a compromise for now
Also when I tested it, using
FDOpenFileDialog new openModal.
the path is initially blank, it only fills when I start clicking.
That's a bug, I'll fix that.
BTW, could it be that FDMorphicUIManager becomes default automatically ?
That seems quite aggressive, I don't feel it's stable enough⦠I could add something like #load, and #loadDefault to the load script⦠but then you might as well execute the beDefault. I'm not sure yet.
And related to github filetree, what is the proper way to get a new version once you loaded the code ?
I don't know, but it should be the same as with any other (e.g. smalltalkhub) project, since it's both monticello, no? I've never done this, so I don't know. (Usually when I am updating I look at the individual commits because I want to know what has changed.) Peter
Couple more updates:
If you truncate, you could put the full, non truncated path in a pop over, that would be a cheap way to solve that problem, no ? In any case, in my testing there was enough space.
Fixed
Maybe also add a trailing / to indicate that it represents the directory and not the selection ?
Fixed
the path is initially blank, it only fills when I start clicking.
Fixed
And related to github filetree, what is the proper way to get a new version once you loaded the code ?
What seems to work is to delete github-cache folder in image directory and unload both file-dialog and BaselineOfFileDialog packages, and then reexecute the load script again. As this is really stupid, I'll have to ask Thierry or someone. And couple of more fixes based on Torsten's feedback: 1. the Open/Cancel buttons are swapped on Windows 2. the FileSystem bookmark has been replaced with available disks on Windows (C:, D:, ...) 3. Added basic entry completion when saving; note that Dark Theme and the EntryCompletion popup do not like each other --- this has to be fixed inside Pharo. â One more thing I want to add really soon: clicking on a file would open a GTInspector on the side (as part of the window), so you can see the preview of text/image/etc Peter On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
On 14 Jul 2016, at 23:49, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sven,
What I am missing in the UI is some indication of the path that leads to the current selected file. Right now, I am wondering where exactly I am, I feel a bit lost (this is of course from the technical standpoint of a path in a tree). This could be done with a popup, a trail, a pop-over.
I've added this couple of days ago (as I was missing this too), I just forgot to push the update to github (one downside compared to smalltalkhub :)).
The only problem is that the image directory name is usually really long (the longest I have is 110 characters as it includes the build's name), so it doesn't exactly fit in. There is some shortening happening based on the window's width but it's not perfect.
I had another look. Yes, this is cool.
If you truncate, you could put the full, non truncated path in a pop over, that would be a cheap way to solve that problem, no ? In any case, in my testing there was enough space.
If Spec supports it, then it should be easy.
Maybe also add a trailing / to indicate that it represents the directory and not the selection ?
Originally I wanted to make it bold, but again, Spec doesn't support Text properly; trailing slash might be a compromise for now
Also when I tested it, using
FDOpenFileDialog new openModal.
the path is initially blank, it only fills when I start clicking.
That's a bug, I'll fix that.
BTW, could it be that FDMorphicUIManager becomes default automatically ?
That seems quite aggressive, I don't feel it's stable enough⦠I could add something like #load, and #loadDefault to the load script⦠but then you might as well execute the beDefault. I'm not sure yet.
And related to github filetree, what is the proper way to get a new version once you loaded the code ?
I don't know, but it should be the same as with any other (e.g. smalltalkhub) project, since it's both monticello, no? I've never done this, so I don't know. (Usually when I am updating I look at the individual commits because I want to know what has changed.)
Peter
On 16 Jul 2016, at 19:05, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
Couple more updates:
You rock !
If you truncate, you could put the full, non truncated path in a pop over, that would be a cheap way to solve that problem, no ? In any case, in my testing there was enough space.
Fixed
Maybe also add a trailing / to indicate that it represents the directory and not the selection ?
Fixed
the path is initially blank, it only fills when I start clicking.
Fixed
And related to github filetree, what is the proper way to get a new version once you loaded the code ?
What seems to work is to delete github-cache folder in image directory and unload both file-dialog and BaselineOfFileDialog packages, and then reexecute the load script again. As this is really stupid, I'll have to ask Thierry or someone.
And couple of more fixes based on Torsten's feedback:
1. the Open/Cancel buttons are swapped on Windows 2. the FileSystem bookmark has been replaced with available disks on Windows (C:, D:, ...) 3. Added basic entry completion when saving; note that Dark Theme and the EntryCompletion popup do not like each other --- this has to be fixed inside Pharo.
<completion.png> â
One more thing I want to add really soon: clicking on a file would open a GTInspector on the side (as part of the window), so you can see the preview of text/image/etc
Peter
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
On 14 Jul 2016, at 23:49, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sven,
What I am missing in the UI is some indication of the path that leads to the current selected file. Right now, I am wondering where exactly I am, I feel a bit lost (this is of course from the technical standpoint of a path in a tree). This could be done with a popup, a trail, a pop-over.
I've added this couple of days ago (as I was missing this too), I just forgot to push the update to github (one downside compared to smalltalkhub :)).
The only problem is that the image directory name is usually really long (the longest I have is 110 characters as it includes the build's name), so it doesn't exactly fit in. There is some shortening happening based on the window's width but it's not perfect.
I had another look. Yes, this is cool.
If you truncate, you could put the full, non truncated path in a pop over, that would be a cheap way to solve that problem, no ? In any case, in my testing there was enough space.
If Spec supports it, then it should be easy.
Maybe also add a trailing / to indicate that it represents the directory and not the selection ?
Originally I wanted to make it bold, but again, Spec doesn't support Text properly; trailing slash might be a compromise for now
<Screen Shot 2016-07-15 at 13.58.27.png>
Also when I tested it, using
FDOpenFileDialog new openModal.
the path is initially blank, it only fills when I start clicking.
That's a bug, I'll fix that.
BTW, could it be that FDMorphicUIManager becomes default automatically ?
That seems quite aggressive, I don't feel it's stable enough⦠I could add something like #load, and #loadDefault to the load script⦠but then you might as well execute the beDefault. I'm not sure yet.
And related to github filetree, what is the proper way to get a new version once you loaded the code ?
I don't know, but it should be the same as with any other (e.g. smalltalkhub) project, since it's both monticello, no? I've never done this, so I don't know. (Usually when I am updating I look at the individual commits because I want to know what has changed.)
Peter
This is excellent !!! We should change the default file browser to be this one ! -- Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I donât mean to be rude! Please see http://emailcharter.org <http://emailcharter.org/> . Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
On Jul 16, 2016, at 13:05, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
Couple more updates:
If you truncate, you could put the full, non truncated path in a pop over, that would be a cheap way to solve that problem, no ? In any case, in my testing there was enough space.
Fixed
Maybe also add a trailing / to indicate that it represents the directory and not the selection ?
Fixed
the path is initially blank, it only fills when I start clicking.
Fixed
And related to github filetree, what is the proper way to get a new version once you loaded the code ?
What seems to work is to delete github-cache folder in image directory and unload both file-dialog and BaselineOfFileDialog packages, and then reexecute the load script again. As this is really stupid, I'll have to ask Thierry or someone.
And couple of more fixes based on Torsten's feedback:
1. the Open/Cancel buttons are swapped on Windows 2. the FileSystem bookmark has been replaced with available disks on Windows (C:, D:, ...) 3. Added basic entry completion when saving; note that Dark Theme and the EntryCompletion popup do not like each other --- this has to be fixed inside Pharo.
<completion.png> â
One more thing I want to add really soon: clicking on a file would open a GTInspector on the side (as part of the window), so you can see the preview of text/image/etc
Peter
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com <mailto:i.uhnak@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>> wrote:
On 14 Jul 2016, at 23:49, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com <mailto:i.uhnak@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Sven,
What I am missing in the UI is some indication of the path that leads to the current selected file. Right now, I am wondering where exactly I am, I feel a bit lost (this is of course from the technical standpoint of a path in a tree). This could be done with a popup, a trail, a pop-over.
I've added this couple of days ago (as I was missing this too), I just forgot to push the update to github (one downside compared to smalltalkhub :)).
The only problem is that the image directory name is usually really long (the longest I have is 110 characters as it includes the build's name), so it doesn't exactly fit in. There is some shortening happening based on the window's width but it's not perfect.
I had another look. Yes, this is cool.
If you truncate, you could put the full, non truncated path in a pop over, that would be a cheap way to solve that problem, no ? In any case, in my testing there was enough space.
If Spec supports it, then it should be easy.
Maybe also add a trailing / to indicate that it represents the directory and not the selection ?
Originally I wanted to make it bold, but again, Spec doesn't support Text properly; trailing slash might be a compromise for now
<Screen Shot 2016-07-15 at 13.58.27.png>
Also when I tested it, using
FDOpenFileDialog new openModal.
the path is initially blank, it only fills when I start clicking.
That's a bug, I'll fix that.
BTW, could it be that FDMorphicUIManager becomes default automatically ?
That seems quite aggressive, I don't feel it's stable enough⦠I could add something like #load, and #loadDefault to the load script⦠but then you might as well execute the beDefault. I'm not sure yet.
And related to github filetree, what is the proper way to get a new version once you loaded the code ?
I don't know, but it should be the same as with any other (e.g. smalltalkhub) project, since it's both monticello, no? I've never done this, so I don't know. (Usually when I am updating I look at the individual commits because I want to know what has changed.)
Peter
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
This is excellent !!!
We should change the default file browser to be this one !
I wonder⦠does Pharo support such workflow that it would pull the code from github? I.e. the development would continue on GitHub and Pharo would just pull the updates. I believe there are some upstream projects already (GT mostly), but those are on smalltalkhub, and from what I've heard it's a major PITA. Peter
On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder⦠does Pharo support such workflow that it would pull the code from github? I.e. the development would continue on GitHub and Pharo would just pull the updates.
It is not ready for production, but I am working on that.
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