From where can i download oz for pharo 3?

TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli@gmail.com> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli@gmail.com> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714

I think i will recover my work but it will take a lot of time working from a .changes file with an editor. TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: phil@highoctane.be Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 13:10:14 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image. But it was no 3.0 It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after opening. One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! Now, images should not freeze. And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP Monticello code. Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. For commercial work these things are important. Phil Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli@gmail.com > a écrit :

From where can i download oz for pharo 3?

TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli@gmail.com > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli@gmail.com > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714

Yes , Phil. I recover my work using the .changes file of corrupted image and I recover my work with "Recover lost changes" tool. Thanks a lot! Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: phil@highoctane.be Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 16:18:52 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash Drag and drop of a changes file on a pharo window does work under Windows (do not know about the other platforms). Phil On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Pablo R. Digonzelli < pdigonzelli@gmail.com > wrote: I think i will recover my work but it will take a lot of time working from a .changes file with an editor. TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: phil@highoctane.be Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 13:10:14 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image. But it was no 3.0 It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after opening. One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! Now, images should not freeze. And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP Monticello code. Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. For commercial work these things are important. Phil Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli@gmail.com > a écrit : <blockquote>

From where can i download oz for pharo 3?

TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli@gmail.com > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli@gmail.com > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 </blockquote>

Phil there is no magic. We cannot clone people and we should pay people also and our backlog is quite large. Stef On 28/6/14 18:10, phil@highoctane.be wrote:

Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image.

But it was no 3.0

It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after opening.

One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key.

Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path!

Now, images should not freeze. And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out.

I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP Monticello code.

Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous.

why this is like that in many smalltalk VM if I'M correct.

For commercial work these things are important.

Phil

Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli@gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> a écrit :

From where can i download oz for pharo 3?

TIA

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I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one?

TIA

**** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> pdigonzelli@gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> Cel: 5493815982714

------------------------------------------------------------------------ *De: *"Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli@gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> *Enviados: *Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 *Asunto: *[Pharo-users] image crash

My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ?

TIA

**** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> pdigonzelli@gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> Cel: 5493815982714

In my case, I made a mistake wich crashes the image. After Phil explainme how to use my changes file on a new image i recover my work i think very efficiently. Thanks for the help Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <estebanlm@gmail.com> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Enviados: Lunes, 30 de Junio 2014 5:21:34 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:36, stepharo < stepharo@free.fr > wrote: Phil there is no magic. We cannot clone people and we should pay people also and our backlog is quite large. Stef On 28/6/14 18:10, phil@highoctane.be wrote: <blockquote> Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image. But it was no 3.0 It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after opening. One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! Now, images should not freeze. And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP Monticello code. </blockquote> yes, but this is not a VM problem but the image. is about how the image react to a socket presence when restarting. <blockquote> <blockquote> Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. </blockquote> why this is like that in many smalltalk VM if I'M correct. </blockquote> AFAIK, is a problem on any VM not just smalltalk ones (but probably for us is more important than others). <blockquote> <blockquote> For commercial work these things are important. Phil Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli@gmail.com > a écrit : <blockquote>

From where can i download oz for pharo 3?

TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli@gmail.com > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli@gmail.com > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com pdigonzelli@gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>