On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:36, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:

Phil

there is no magic.
We cannot clone people and we should pay people also and our backlog is quite large.

Stef


On 28/6/14 18:10, phil@highoctane.be wrote:

Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image.

But it was no 3.0

It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after opening.

One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key.

Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have  helped me among that path!

Now, images should not freeze.
And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out.

I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP Monticello code.

yes, but this is not a VM problem but the image. 
is about how the image react to a socket presence when restarting. 

Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous.


why this is like that in many smalltalk VM if I'M correct.

AFAIK, is a problem on any VM not just smalltalk ones (but probably for us is more important than others). 


For commercial work these things are important.

Phil





Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli@gmail.com> a �crit :
From where can i download oz for pharo 3?

TIA

Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
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De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli@gmail.com>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
Enviados: S�bado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one?

TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com
pdigonzelli@gmail.com
Cel: 5493815982714

De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli@gmail.com>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
Enviados: S�bado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31
Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash

My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work.
In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu.
My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ?


TIA

Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
Email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com
pdigonzelli@gmail.com
Cel: 5493815982714