A somewhat unique name makes it easier to google for it (like Roassal Pharo, or DeepTraverser Pharo, or Zinc Pharo). These will give us hits that are relevant. Try System Browser, Inspector... And Apple has worked with NSObject and stuff like that without too much trouble (at a much larger scale for whatever XyzKit they released). Ah, yes, they used the "Kit" suffix. Maybe can we have something like that with Pharo. Like SystemBrowserKit ( nah, too Appleish. Let's try SystemBrowserMeccano (longish), or SystemBrowserPack (too bland), or SystemBrowserGear (why not), SystemBrowserRig (this one sounds cool actually)). Now, I am back to liking the current naming. Phil On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Glynn <aglynn42@gmail.com> wrote:
How many subsystems that do pretty much the same thing exist in Java? Or Programmable Hyperlinked Pasta?
Try this: do a set of Moose queries on a largish Pharo subsystem, say GLORP, then do the same on EclipseLink, Toplink or Hibernate, either with or without the JPA interfaces.
Even with the tools in Moose the Java frameworks make little to no sense compared to GLORP. Neither do the names mean much other than Hibernate, which itself could be taken n different ways.
And JavaScript, well, what can you say about a language with prototypes but no types to proto?
Most enterprise software is proof positive the Pastafarians are right - I've seen plenty of flying spaghetti monsters.
Andrew
On Sat, 2018-04-14 at 00:31 +1200, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
I was not talking about additional subsystems *for* Pharo, but subsystems already *in* Pharo. For example, when I hover the mouse over "Epicea" in the leftmost browser panel, there is a pop-up that explains what is otherwise a rather opaque word. But when I hover the mouse over "Fuel", nothing happens. "Grease" => pop-up, "Growl", no. Actually there are three possibilities. The third is that there's no pop-up but if you click, there is a package comment.
On 14 April 2018 at 00:18, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
There are a lot of subsystems in Pharo, and being a bear of very little brain, I have a hard time relating Zinc, Calypso, &c &c to, well, whatever they are. I presume there is somewhere a list of topic/name/PFX triples for guidance. Can some kind soul tell me where it is?
Until we have mature package manager (similar to Cargo or npm), you have to use google. On the bright side, with the move to git(hub), people are much more likely to actually describe what their project does, and maybe even a bit of documentation. This was almost non-existent with SmalltalkHub.
Peter