Hi Esteban, I found a problem in mongo/voyage and I have reduced and extracted it for repro. I ask for your opinion if this is a bug. If you file in the code below, the method >>testDemo creates a simple model: Paper has 1:1 reference to Planet. Paper has 1:1 reference to Star. Star has 1:N reference to Planet. Star has 1:1 reference to Paper. Planet has 1:1 reference to Paper. If you run >>testDemo, you see that the model which was created is ok with all its references. (self assert: thePaper planet = thePaper star planets first.) ==> ok If you reset the repository and load Paper from database with Paper select all and make the same check, the references are lost. VORepository current reset. theReloadedPaper := Paper selectAll first. self assert: theReloadedPaper planet = theReloadedPaper star planets first ==>not ok But if you remove the comment within >>mongoPlanets which leads to sending a message to the newly loaded object, then it works. write: [ :star :planets | star planets: (planets "select: [:each | each someMethod]") ]); Do I have to send a message to each of the instances after loading? I think no. If I did not understand correctly how to use voyage, please tell me. Regards Sabine Object subclass: #Planet instanceVariableNames: 'planetname star paper' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'RKA24-Demo'! !Planet methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 12:05'! paper ^ paper! ! !Planet methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 12:05'! paper: anObject paper := anObject! ! !Planet methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 7/18/2013 16:17'! planetname ^ planetname! ! !Planet methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 7/18/2013 16:17'! planetname: anObject planetname := anObject! ! !Planet methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 11:53'! star ^ star! ! !Planet methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 11:53'! star: anObject star := anObject! ! !Planet methodsFor: 'testing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 12:25'! someMethod ^true! ! "-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- "! Planet class instanceVariableNames: ''! !Planet class methodsFor: 'as yet unclassified' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 7/18/2013 16:16'! isVoyageRoot ^true! ! !Planet class methodsFor: 'as yet unclassified' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 12:23'! mongoStar <mongoDescription> ^ VOMongoToOneDescription new attributeName: 'star'; kind: Star; accessor: (MAPluggableAccessor read: [ :planet | planet star ] write: [ :planet :star | planet star: star ]); yourself! ! !Planet class methodsFor: 'as yet unclassified' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 12:30'! testDemo "self testDemo" | thePlanet theStar thePaper theReloadedPaper | "create simple model" thePaper := Paper new theme: 'a paper about 42'. thePlanet := Planet new planetname: 'Orion'; paper: thePaper. theStar := Star new starname: 'Betelgeuse'; paper: thePaper. theStar addPlanet: thePlanet. thePaper star: theStar. thePaper planet: thePlanet. thePaper save. "check references - ok" self assert: thePaper planet = thePaper star planets first. VORepository current reset. theReloadedPaper := Paper selectAll first. "references are lost now" self assert: theReloadedPaper planet = theReloadedPaper star planets first! ! Object subclass: #Star instanceVariableNames: 'starname planets paper' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'RKA24-Demo'! !Star methodsFor: 'api' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 7/18/2013 16:21'! addPlanet: aPlanet self planets add: aPlanet. aPlanet star: self! ! !Star methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 12:05'! paper ^ paper! ! !Star methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 12:05'! paper: anObject paper := anObject! ! !Star methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 7/18/2013 16:20'! planets planets ifNil: [ self planets: OrderedCollection new ]. ^ planets! ! !Star methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 7/18/2013 16:20'! planets: anObject planets := anObject! ! !Star methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 7/18/2013 16:18'! starname ^ starname! ! !Star methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 7/18/2013 16:18'! starname: anObject starname := anObject! ! "-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- "! Star class instanceVariableNames: ''! !Star class methodsFor: 'as yet unclassified' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 7/18/2013 16:16'! isVoyageRoot ^true! ! !Star class methodsFor: 'as yet unclassified' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 12:31'! mongoPlanets "remove comment below then references are not lost anymore" <mongoDescription> ^ VOMongoToManyDescription new attributeName: 'planets'; kind: Planet; accessor: (MAPluggableAccessor read: [ :star | star planets ] write: [ :star :planets | star planets: (planets "select: [:each | each someMethod]") ]); yourself ! ! Object subclass: #Paper instanceVariableNames: 'star planet theme' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'RKA24-Demo'! !Paper methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 11:54'! planet ^ planet! ! !Paper methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 11:54'! planet: anObject planet := anObject! ! !Paper methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 11:54'! star ^ star! ! !Paper methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 11:54'! star: anObject star := anObject! ! !Paper methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 11:54'! theme ^ theme! ! !Paper methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 11:54'! theme: anObject theme := anObject! ! "-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- "! Paper class instanceVariableNames: ''! !Paper class methodsFor: 'as yet unclassified' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 11:48'! isVoyageRoot ^true! ! !Paper class methodsFor: 'as yet unclassified' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 12:23'! mongoPlanet <mongoDescription> ^ VOMongoToOneDescription new attributeName: 'planet'; accessor: (MAPluggableAccessor read: [ :paper | paper planet ] write: [ :paper :planet | paper planet: planet ]); yourself! ! !Paper class methodsFor: 'as yet unclassified' stamp: 'sabineknoefel 12/2/2013 12:23'! mongoStar <mongoDescription> ^ VOMongoToOneDescription new attributeName: 'star'; accessor: (MAPluggableAccessor read: [ :paper | paper star ] write: [ :paper :star | paper star: star ]); yourself! ! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Mongo-lost-references-bug-tp4726673.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.