Hi, We use Pharo as a development environment and we run a business. So, for us stability and an LTS version makes sense. I think there should be a compromise. The Ubuntu LTS model is a compromise in a sense because the releases between the LTS versions include the newer / more experimental stuff.
From what I understand, the fork of Pharo from Squeak was intended to provide more stability and make Pharo an environment that businesses like us could use. This means that there must be a reasonable degree of stability in Pharo. I also understand that the goal was to get to a minimal Pharo and build up by loading what you need on top of that. And other reasons.
Our experience was that Pharo 2 was quite stable, Pharo 3 was even better. We lived on Pharo 3 for a very long time. Pharo 4 broke, 5 was better and we're now on 6.1. None of these are as good as Pharo 3 was from a stability point of view. I understand the innovation dilemma and wish there was a clean answer, but believe we need both. I wish I could get a tiny gap to work on Pharo itself and not have this relentless focus on survival in the business. I thank you all for your hard work on Pharo. Cheers Otto Behrens +27 82 802 2375 [image: FINWorks] [image: FINWorks] <http://za.linkedin.com/in/waltherbehrens> www.finworks.biz On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:26 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote:
So you earn money with pharo? Isnât that a bit risky if you donât have someone to ask if you have a critical problem? That is what you get when you pay into the consortium. Is it that you demand that from the mailing list and the people that work in their free time?
Norbert
Am 12.04.2019 um 03:06 schrieb john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com>:
+1 on the long term support idea. Changing an application every year to support a new version of Pharo is a nonstarter for most of my clients.
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On Apr 11, 2019, at 06:33, "jtuchel@objektfabrik.de" < jtuchel@objektfabrik.de> wrote:
+1 on the long term support and stability topic.