Aug. 18, 2010
11:27 a.m.
On Aug 18, 2010, at 1:11 PM, TimM wrote: > Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> Is Find class (cmd-F) in the default browser not enough? >> or typing in any pane the class and doing cmd-B > > The problem I find with cmd-F is that if I'm already in the middle of typing a method - it wants to refocus my browser on the new class (often causing me to have to save changes that I'm not finished doing yet). AND - there is also no back button to go back to where I was typing my method (so I've lost my context). Yes Romain did booster which allows you to leave a method uncompiled in a browser and navigate to another one.... this was never integrated. Now we should really rethink the navigation > So it would seem the "Pharo way" is to open a new browser window - but its not a smooth operation. Probably the closest is to start typing a class name where I am and then use o/e-complete (but then I often have to backspace over that text when I figure out actually what I needed to do). So it all feels a bit more awkward than it should be? Sure it is bad :) >>> But I guess the bigger question is - how can you guys that know how to do this, impart the information and direction so that those of us following behind can meaningfully contribute without wasting your time? >> I do not know what you imply exactly. >> Now my point is that if you improve the tools we will integrate them. >> I would really like to get better tools. > > > Some of your points in this message helped thanks - what I was trying to get at was, I was confused about which framework to learn and then build on. I keep hearing about lots of different things OB, Glamour... and then there seem to be several browsers (System, O2...) - so its not clear where to start? I also would want to do it in a way that fits "the vision" - but i'm not yet clear on what that vision is (I'm still learning) The problem is a question of resources. If you give me one guy for a year I would start a new browser from scratch. Now since lukas is improving OB may be this is the way to go. > >>> Do you think there could be a How to Contribute to Pharo tools BOF at ESUG? What is the direction - is it OB or is it Glamor? How do you get started with OB, and what kinds of tools do we need? >> - We need a better >> Test Runner >> Monticello Browser >> (Benjmain did a better RecentMessageSet) >> Deeper Refactoring integration >> If you want to help there is plenty of topics. For example helping at integrating my my package implementation > > This list will give me a good starting point to talk to people at ESUG and hopefully I will "learn to fish" so I can help out more productively. > > Again, I'm sorry to bother everyone. don't apologize all the time > > Tim > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users