Thanks for posting those links. I enjoyed seeing what is happening. Pharo is great. (Except for 1.3, which crashes out-of-the-box when I load my packages... -- i am too busy to figure out why right now.)
Please let us know because how can we help and fix? We use 1.3 daily and it works. We are building a company on 1.3 and working hard on 1.4 so gives us feedback.
Two years ago a friend needed an app to demonstrate capabilities at his start-up company. The demo app was simple: 2d display (with a map as the back-drop) with markers on the map illustrating the states & locations of various in-field devices (data pulled from the db, or added graphically to inform the db). I spec'd out the demo, generalizing as much as possible for a quick-n-dirty demo. So maybe I quickly got in to 20 to 30 classes, with not much code in each. I sat down and laid out the basic functioning demo in about 2 weeks in Java. At the end of that period, I thought: why am I using Java/Java-beans/Eclipse? I hate having to type in data-type information all over the place -- and as I get older and my eyes slower, it just slows me down a lot, visually scanning code during editing. So, I went ahead and authored the same functionality in Pharo. It took 2 days. I still do not get the appeal of Java.
coud we see it :)?
I love Pharo and I am willing to contribute.
Thanks
Other than a few tools laying around (e.g. a Sudoku solver that I wrote a few years back) that were never polished (e.g. lacking a GUI),
Report precsise bugs, Send emails like that one, sign the license agreement are some ways to contribute :)
cash is actually the easiest thing for me to contribute.
We are setting a consortium and people will be able to financially contribute. I will send a separate mail to get some feedback from the community.
Question: is this private-public partnership funding situation operational now, or are you still working out the details?
We are working with laywers :)
I am using Pharo to write a financial analysis & reporting (only html & csv currently) system that includes a simple (feed-forward) artificial neural-network subsystem and a portfolio simulation system (that can pull in historical fundamental data & simulate a portfolio with various trading rules).
The chances are high that I will need some additional help in February or March for a few weeks. Are there any Smalltalk/Pharo consultants here in New Hampshire, USA? Because this project is going to evolve, and is already too big for me to maintain progress on in my spare time (and yet the app is already critical to our in-house stock research), hiring someone would be our preferred course.
Send a separate email :) We love love to create such a kind of relationship and ecobusiness :)
- Whatever happened to the GUI builder? (Someone named nullset or null<something> was working on?)
I do not know. What we look at is the following: - how can we reuse the logic go the widgets and their composition? We play with 4 classes to understand. Because in the UI builder you need - Widget placement - Saving and rebuilding it once you close it - reusing the UI logic of one part in another (for example I plug together a list and a button how can I plug this behavior in another one) => sub canvas technology in VW. So we will slowly continue to play with idea there to see.
In summary, I love Pharo!
Thanks
Cheers, Cam
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote: Hi,
The Pharo talks of ESUG 2011 and ESUG 2010 are online:
ESUG 2011 Pharo RoadMap (missing the a bit at the end, I think) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJfiNQ8zhIE Slides: http://www.slideshare.net/MarcusDenker/the-pharo-roadmap ESUG 2010: Pharo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu-w9wX6RwQ Smalltalks 2011 Slides: http://www.slideshare.net/MarcusDenker/pharo-one-year-later Video: Not yet.
Marcus
-- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de