this is irreverent, but you might consider visiting Edmonton, Alberta, Canada or Yorkton Saskatchewan Canada or even Montreal, PQ ( at least there had been a Ukrainian community in Rosemount there in my day ... with shop signs in Cyrillic, blonde, blue-eyed female rock singers in local bands ...) Canada's firsts in my life time : first person of Ukrainian ancestry to serve as a provincial premier, first to serve as a supreme court judge, first to serve as titular head of state ( Gov-General representing what is now The Queen of Canada, Liz II ) ... all a big deal for Western Canadians on the prairies and north of the same. which all starts with Vikings (aka RUS) on the Danube long before the Kievan Rus ;-) Here in my eastern Canadian maritime town, a promising local artist has parents from Ukraine ( although the local non-Irish/Scots/Acadian/Wolostook/Anglo community may have almost as many folks from Minsk and my ear is poorly tuned to Russian, as local Poles often remind me ;-) And yes, we follow the news from Ukraine closely : and I have a good student friend in retirement there ... and at least one "linkt-hin" conx to a Ukrainian Smalltalker in Cleveland ... whom I had met in Minneapolis ... ( a VW and VA guy ) Of course, for Canadians, who is and is not Ukrainian varied with the shifting western borders of Ukraine in the past century ... and even more so for Poland ! Many German speakers in western Sask were, in fact, fleeing Russian territory east of Poland after WWII and they followed another generation before and after WWI ! ( which goes back to Catherine the Great, but I digress ... ;-) On 25 January 2014 13:17, Alain Busser <alain.busser@gmail.com> wrote:
My first thought was that Ukraine is famous for the beauty of its women (as sang Ringo Starr "the Ukraine girls really knock me out") and I didn't dare to write it here, for fear that the women on this list tackle me as sexist. Then, I realized that there are maybe only men here, am I wrong (that's my hope)?
Anyway, any time, any place when people are shot just because they want to be free, there is something really wrong somewhere... It is sad that it can happen on this planet nowadays, and it happens in several countries...
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Camille Teruel <camille.teruel@gmail.com>wrote:
On 25 janv. 2014, at 16:27, Thomas Worthington <thomas@technouveau.co.uk> wrote:
Well, good luck. But remember that the enemy of your enemy may not be your friend and that no one cares more about your welfare than you do, no matter how big a smile they have or how warm a speech they make about democracy and free speech.
+1
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:06:12 -0000, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com>
wrote:
My dear Pharo friends,
I have no idea if you are aware, but now a big country named Ukraine
is facing a very hard times. People are fighting for their rights while the current government tries to convert the country into Somalia - like regime.
Why should you care? Because you will like Ukrainians. And referring
to the context: we develop a lot. If you are not familiar: https://github.com/fre5h/DoctrineEnumBundle/pull/12
I donât want to cry here, but me, Igor Stasenko and some other pharo
developers are from Ukraine, and we are extremely worried about our Home. I just ask you to think about our country for a minute. Tell your friends: âYou know, there is this nice country called Ukraine, where people are being shot just because they want to have a freedom of speechâ. And if you believe in God, please say a short prayer for Ukraine, I trust that this is important.
Sorry guys for taking your time, but I was touched by this pull
request and just wanted to share what is happening around.
Cheers! Uko
-- Thomas Worthington Tech Nouveau