Stef, I'm with you!! Keep hacking away at Pharo and make it the cleanest, nicest Smalltalk environment. Backwards compat talk this early in Pharo's life is premature. Besides, one of Smalltalk's best features is discovery and refactoring. This makes it much easier to migrate and rewrite when things break. Thanks for all your work!! I'm only "playing" with pharo these days but keep looking for U.S. clients where I can plug it in. ~Jon On 04/27/2011 01:42 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Mike and other
How many engineers are payed to deliver freeBSD? How many active committers and packages responsible are actively commiting and taking responsibility for packages?
We need also stability but right now not changing is just been dead. I think that lot of people do not read the code of pharo else they would see why we are changing. We do not change for the fun. THIS IS NOT FUN TO write boring code to fix ugly situation. We would prefer to write hyper cool sexy app and be fancy to impress girls but this is not like that. Network is bad, compiler is bad, file is ugly.... Once this will be fixed then we will not change for the sake of it.
Now comparing Smalltalk to cobol is silly (sorry but it is). Right we are fighting with python, ruby, javascript (in fact we are not fighting since we do not even exist in the radar). If we want to get a chance, we should move way faster and be really aggressive to make sure that you can write hyper cool application.
Now why would you need to upgrade all the time to new versions if your system is working.
Metacello and versioning systems are your friends: maintain difference streams and versions if you want to share between different versions.
Stef