I'm playing with Phexampe because I think that in my current project the setup of test scenarios will be a huge part of the testing. So do it in a structured way reducing doubled initialization procedures should be something good. I'm just wondering how the state is kept between dependent test cases. A Phexample test case returns a value so that value := self given: #shouldHaveCollectedSomeState transfers the state from the dependent test case into the current. What do you do if the state produced is more complex than a single value? To be honest I don't understand why in a test case that calls #given: a tearDown/setUp cycle is executed between the first and the second test case. I think while using #given: I make the second test case explicitly dependent on the first. Why should I reset state collected by the first before executing the second? I'm a bit reluctant to create new classes for all collected state scenarios so that I can return them properly from one test case to another. Any ideas? thanks, Norbert