Oh! good idea.. iâll take a look.. i ended up throwing them into a temp variable.. then saving.. then bringing it back.. thanks! On July 14, 2017 at 2:20:42 AM, Sabine Manaa (manaa.sabine@gmail.com) wrote: have a look at VOTransientDescription I also have attributes which are not persistent. I define them at class side like this: mongoAccountingRecords     <mongoDescription>     ^ VOTransientDescription new         attributeName: 'accountingRecords';         yourself Regards Sabine ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary Public Key: http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 #BitMessage BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.Village-Buzz.com http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101